Nicotine definitely shouldn’t get a seat at this table.
good on new Zealand for slowly letting it die out.
Alcohol and nicotine are the first step in the path of despair. But cannabis is the gateway to a good time. Change my mind.
Are you really having a good time when the munchies hit but you’re out of snacc?
A little planning ahead can help with that.
A tip that has helped me a lot with munchies: instead of chips and taco bell, reach for some fruit. Solves munchies and cottonmouth.
Eh alcohol can be enjoyed in moderation. Personally I massively prefer it to weed
Same. I’m not actually a fan of weed. No ill effects, just not more enjoyable to not consuming it for me, and less enjoyable than the right amount of alcohol (but much more enjoyable than too much alcohol, so balance is key).
I’ve been rawdogging life for 31 years
I dare you to try it
I dare you
Healthy and sober is no way to go through life son.
I tried, it was terrible.
Borrrriiinnnngggg.
Im14andthisisdeep
This is literally something that is taught in highschool, not some brave, contrarian belief.
Gateway to free thinking
How D.A.R.E. you!
Been smoking weed for over 50 years and I never found that gate!
That’s because you were too stoned to look for it. You set us up man.
I didn’t know I was supposed to be looking for the sumbitch! I usually just climbed over the fence.
The classification of cannabis changed to incarnate more black people. It’s a historical fact and it’s sad that many people don’t know that.
It wasn’t just race, it was Black People and anyone else that associated with them. If someone went against authority and smoked weed, they were a danger to authority.
It was a litmus test
But pretty fucking close for .ml account
Hippies too
incarnate
Either you mean incarcerate, or else it is one hell of a gateway
Gateway drugs should open more things
I smoked pot and now I have a new isekai life with superpowers and a band of roaming catgirl assassins who enforce my will upon an otherwise cruel, dark, and corrupt world in an alternate dimension.
This could happen to you.
…yes please!
Yeah, sorry. I’m tired and English isn’t my mother tongue.
I didn’t mean anything by it, and assumed it was autocorrect. I was just amused by the visual of it in my head.
Just gonna drop this quote form a Nixon aide here:
“You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities,” Ehrlichman said. “We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did”
The war on drugs was a war on blacks and anti-Vietnam activists.
I believe originally, it was used to incarcerate Latin Americans, hence the naming of “Marihuana” and later, “Marijuana” to make it sound more Spanish.
Its been my experience that 125cc motorcycles, Cessna 172’s, DJI Mini-2 drones, and Ender-3’s are also gateway drugs. Less illegal but just as damaging financially.
I often call e-bikes gateway drugs to motorcycles :)
I’m older, for me normal bikes were gateway drugs to motorcycles.
On the other hand, for me normal bicycles were gateway drugs to even more expensive normal bicycles…
As someone that’s smoked weed for 20 years, I think it’s too potent now and consider the plant to be something that got abused by humans the same way humans abuse everything they touch.
Don’t be a stoner.
Use it as medicine.
Stoners are junkies.
After 20 years I’m finally realizing this and using it more as only medicine.
I remember a quote I read a looong time ago… “If your eyes get red you are abusing it.” From that point on when your eyes deeply red, it’s not medicine, it’s an escape.
Caffeine: am I a joke to you?
Apparentely it’s only considered a dependence and not an addiction, even though there are a lot of discussions about it.
Pathologically reinforced caffeine use induces dependence, but not an addiction.[13] For a drug to induce an addiction from repeated use at sufficiently high doses, it must activate the brain’s reward circuitry, particularly the mesolimbic pathway.[13]
“Someone had to say it”
-some guy, not even within the first 10 people to say it
Aren’t all 3 talked about as such?
Idk where you live but in the US, no, not at all. There’s a reason we have the ATF, alcohol, tobacco and firearms agency while weed is treated like it’s as dangerous as heroin. Drinking and smoking is completely normalized, grandma drinking and smoking is completely normal but grandma will act like you’re going straight to hell if she finds out you smoked a joint and thinks you need to go to rehab
Canada, 30 years ago the DARE programme had all 3.
Yeah, my middle school health class in Jersey talked about cigarettes, alcohol, weed, and in the same breath mushrooms, acid, cocaine, and heroin. It’s where I learned about which drugs I wanted to try.
Calling alcohol and nicotine the first substances that most people abuse when caffeine exists is the biggest win in propaganda history.
I didn’t drink coffee until I was thirty.
How about soda?
Not by choice. I guess in a float, but root beer isn’t caffeinated. I preferred herbal tea. I was a very edgy child.
lots of tea has caffeine in it
They specifically said herbal tea, which in general doesn’t have caffeine.
No one has ever said “man I love coffee, I should try ecstasy next!” Lol
I’m sure more than a few people have said “coffee ain’t doin’ it for me anymore; I should try cocaine or meth,” though.
Unable to cite sources on this, I swear I’m not pulling it out of my ass and I did hear it on broadcast news like in the early 00’s…but adderal is (or at least, was) the most abused prescription drug by “soccer moms”, so, I wouldn’t be surprised.
You know anyone that’s never had coffee before they’ve tried x?
Know anyone that’s never had pizza before they tried heroin?
Pretty sure milk is the ultimate gateway drug.
No but people have said if you take ten wake me ups (caffeine pills) it feels like cocaine
So this is what coke is like
These caffeine pills dont do that for me anymore
Maybe I should try coke
Source: my social circle in high school
You don’t know my life
nobody has said it because the same person never sold both
if you had to go to the ecstasy guy to buy your coffee too, then you’d be much more likely to try ecstasy as well
What? I’m confused at what point you’re trying to make lol
imagine a scenario, coffee is illegal. you can’t buy it in a normal shop, but the same guy that sells every other illegal substance has it. and you have to go to that guy to buy some coffee
even though coffee is not similar in its effect to any harder drug by going out to buy it you’re gaining the skill of obtaining illegal substances, and also put yourself in a place where you can get a variety of them
as you’re buying your coffee your drug dealer tells you “try this, it’ll make you feel really good” and you know what? society’s already lied to you about coffee being bad, maybe they’re lying about the ecstasy thing too, you already trust this guy, he’s been selling you good coffee, so might as well try something new and exciting too eh?
and to be even more blunt, what i’m trying to say is that it’s not the substance itself that makes a drug be a “gateway” it’s the way you obtain it
if weed was perfectly legal and sold freely then it would not longer be a gateway drug, because as you try it you don’t gain the experience and skill of obtaining illegal substances, nor do you get placed in a position where you can grab something extra with your purchase
Damn dude that’s a lot of text but I can’t take anyone seriously who thinks coffee can in any way shape or form lead to drug use lmao idc how well thought out your thesis is, it’s an insane hypothesis.
Caffeine has plenty of health benefits also. Forcing the working class to rely on it to survive is bad, but whatever you’re saying is ridiculous.
i suggest you actually read what i wrote, instead of making yourself look like a fool
Coffee isn’t really a mind-altering drug in the same way, and people take it for it’s effects recreationally. Getting drunk, though? It’s not for me, but people do that for fun, and then look to other ways to have fun in the same kinda way. All the sudden…
There is a whole merchandise category about people not being able to function without coffee but I’ve never seen a mug that says “don’t talk to me unless I’ve bumped a rail”
Picturing that on some stockbroker’s desk
It 100% is a mind-altering drug, a body-altering one too. You can get super fucked up from caffeine, and overdose to a point of death (which you can’t with cannabis). Caffeine has little effect on me and many others but it has major effect on a big part of humanity (and other living beings). Some can’t drink coffee or energy drinks because it fuckes them up so much, and others get so addicted that they ruin their health from it.
I don’t think those are “gateways” though. I think the real gateway is when you try something that you’re taught is vilified and told it will make you stupid and ruin your life, but then all it really does is chill you out. The gateway is realizing you’ve been lied to and you wonder what else was a lie so you try other things. Alcohol if anything has the opposite problem.
Crazy I had to scroll down this far for the reason it’s actually called a gateway drug.
Well, the ACTUAL reason it’s called a gateway drug is fear mongering.
100%. There’s also the fact that when weed is illegal, the only way to get it is through someone who likely sells other illegal substances so it’s not hard to start messing around with other things after smoking for a bit.
Weed is only a gateway drug when its illegal
