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      Generic mid-size sedan from Europe or the US. 64 liters. VW Passat or Mercedes C-class territory. E-class used to get 80 liters as an option.

      It’s so you don’t have to get fuel more than once or twice a month at most.

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      I filled up a family members Rav4 the other day. It was $96.

      Not exactly the best car, but hardly a gas guzzler. Or maybe it is, idk. I normally drive electric.

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            I follow a lot of lawn care YouTubers

            More than a few commenting about raising prices and canceling contracts of customers not willing to pay enough to cover it

            Its not an insignificant difference either, like +$40 on a weekly cut for a quarter acre lot. That’s between a 35-50% price increase depending on the market of the people I’m watching

            The trucks to get there being the big portion of that increase not the mowers, but certainly the mower/trimmer/blower opex increased as well

            Regardless though anyone not running primary electric rigs are definitely hurting right now

            Those who invested into it early, and especially those who got State and Govt incentives, before the current administration shut them down have a massive opportunity to cash in over at least the next ~2 years while this settles, keeping their prices just below whatever their competitors have to charge until their routes are fully booked while those running gas are forced to raise prices and renegociate contracts to maintain profits

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              +$40 on a weekly cut for a quarter acre lot. That’s between a 35-50% price increase depending on the market of the people I’m watching

              bruh is deep in the lore…

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          i took a chance last year and bought a honda ruckus for daily driving. it pays for itself in the gas im saving, i spend abt 10 bucks a month for gas. i hope to upgrade to a real bike at some point but for now i will enjoy the 100mpg perk.

          can i ask what you ride, and the mpg?

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      Could be a labourer. I didn’t see much point in trucks and such before but now it makes sense for some to have them.

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      It is when you offshore all your jobs and import from slave labor countries, all while using a currency that is able to be printed from thin air effectively taxing the world because it’s a reserve currency.

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          That is a policy decision. In places like Saudi Arabia, gas is cheaper than water.

          Norway, correctly, invested more into public transit and EVs, and high gas prices encourage that.

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            In places like Saudi Arabia, gas is cheaper than water.

            Because it’s a fucking desert surrounded by salt water. Desalination is expensive.

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              Its a matter of abundance and where the government decides that abundance can go. Desal is expensive, but you have all the energy you need to power it flowing out of the ground, the cost is somewhat defrayed.

              The Gulf states chose to hoard the wealth at the top and build major hubs without reliable public transit. Which is reflective of a policy decision. Its also a matter of what refineries are where and what grade of oil they will process.

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      There was a Planet Money episode that broke down where the $4/gallon went in 2022:

      $2.40 for the price of crude oil when priced at $100/barrel.

      $0.65 to the refiner that turns crude oil into gasoline (this was the prevailing spread in 2022, maybe different now).

      $0.184 in federal taxes

      $0.30 in state taxes

      $0.20 to $0.50 for transportation from the refiner to the actual retail station.

      Remainder is for the retailer (usually about $0.30 but fluctuates wildly).

      That’s how it is in the U.S. In other countries, it might be higher taxes, higher cost of refining, higher costs of transportation from the refiner, and higher margins for the retailer.

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    TV is cheap because you are the product. CEOs want you to see their ads, their propaganda.

    Gas is expensive because they have not yet found a way to stop car-owner from leaving the sofa in front of TV

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    The price of the TVs hadn’t caught up to the price of energy and other commodities that are used to manufacture and transport them. We will be seeing that inflation hit over the next 6 months

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          Actually, Bloomberg Finance recently warned about how the cattle replacement level is precariously low in the US. It takes a minimum of a one-year forecast to gauge how many dairy cows will be born to reach milk production status, and apparently farmers are having a difficult time with all the debt and limited resources hampering them. Because of the US’s red meat addiction, we are currently at best only at minimum replacement, which is really concerning until the nation reduces some of its cattle consumption; otherwise, beef prices will continue to rise…

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      The fuck? Milk is 2x to 4x cheaper ($0.50-$1.00) than the most common gas, Natural 95 ($2.10) here. I thought you’d get something from those crazy “Got milk?” dairy subsidies…

      (Multiply by 4.5 to get US units rather than liters)

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          It’s fewer syllables, what’s the problem? And yes, milk is cheaper here than the same quality in the US. And don’t forget that we don’t get the crap “regular” gasoline with as low as 87 octane rating, the lowest widely available one is 95.

          Similarly, 75 % of milk drunk here is UHT-treated, as opposed to 10 % in the US.

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            You don’t have much better gasoline there it’s just that you use a different unit for measuring the octane. They aren’t actually much different

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              Well it’s partially true.

              87 AKI is widely available in the US as the minimum octane rating. That translates to 91 RON. I’ve never seen anything under 95 here in Estonia, or at least not this century. 95 and 98 are the only commonly found numbers. 98 is available in the US too, as 93 AKI, but not everywhere as I understand.

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            because expensiveness is a scale that starts from 0 so you always know how expensive everything is. cheapness works the other way, so there’s no starting point. that means there’s no way to quantify how cheap the first thing is, in order to double that. in your example gasoline would have to be the least cheap thing possible, which means nothing can be more expensive.

            it’s like saying someone’s twice as short as someone else. half as tall makes sense, twice as short is a weird way to say it because how short is the first person?

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              “Cheaper” means “less expensive”. 2x cheaper means 2x less expensive, or less expensive by a factor of 2, or 0.5x as expensive. I can say 2x shorter, 2x slower etc. and I don’t see a problem. The adjectives “cheap” and “expensive” don’t relate to a number quantity called “expensiveness” or “cheapness” but “price” or “cost”, which is what the factor applies to, and the word specifies if it’s an increase or decrease. Everyone I know would understand that it’s the reciprocal of the original price, although I get that in a country whose president can say he slashed proces by 500 % without instantly having to resign, fractions and percentages might have to be specified but that’s longer to say for the same number of significant figures.

              Yes, I can find people debating “two times cheaper” (English) but not “zweimal billiger” (German) or “dvakrát levnější” (Czech), in fact the phrase is often used in promotional material. The only results suggesting it’s wrong are English Reddit discussions’ automatic translations to German or Czech, and Google’s AI summary that cotes them.

              I won’t stop using it just because people with inferior education sometimes don’t get it. Similarly, I provided the metric value and conversion rate, it’s Americans who need to practice mental math.

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                I won’t stop using it just because people with inferior education sometimes don’t get it.

                I doubt anyone doesn’t get it, it just sounds twice as unnatural to a native English speaker.

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                  Whatever, I’m not convincing anyone with my use of metric and username. I’m avoiding some other weird phrases though, for example you won’t usually see me type “14 days” in English although Czech speakers prefer it to “2 weeks” (idk why, it’s the same number of syllables).

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    Visit Japan or the EU and their fuels prices make the USA cheap. It is odd in the USA, most people are concerned about fuel prices, but healthcare costs are far worse.

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        A large portion of US adults don’t understand the difference between simple and compound interest.

        Many are living with less than 1 month salary as savings.

        This results in a largr portion with neither the mental space nor capability (or both) to worry about 6 months down the line when they have to worry for 6 days down the line

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        Because you pay for gas every couple days with your credit card, while you pay for healthcare rarely

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    I ride an ebike. Can someone explain the picture on the left? Is it some sort of tax booth for car ownership?

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      Your bike has zero impact on the environment. Good for you

      The metals used in the frame and battery magically floated down from heaven. Also the tires and plastic parts weren’t used from petroleum …not at all

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        There was a recent article detailing how if you put a lot of miles on your ebike you’ll need to replace the battery and it’s surprisingly expensive.

        But I agree with the other downvoters that you can’t just say “but bad thing” you have to put them into perspective. And your parent comment didn’t claim ebikes are perfect or even good. Just that they literally don’t use gas.