What kind of car needs 17 Gallons of capacity?
Generic mid-size sedan from Europe or the US. 64 liters. VW Passat or Mercedes C-class territory. E-class used to get 80 liters as an option.
It’s so you don’t have to get fuel more than once or twice a month at most.
One of those doesn’t come loaded with ads.
Unless your gas pump has ads, or it’s a non-smart tv
I meant post purchase, i.e. fuel once it gets in your tank and the TV once you get it home, but yeah, you’re right too.
And I think you shouldn’t be driving a giant gas guzzling SUV or truck.
80 bucks to fill up my minivan.
I filled up a family members Rav4 the other day. It was $96.
Not exactly the best car, but hardly a gas guzzler. Or maybe it is, idk. I normally drive electric.
Even my motorcycle is $25 to fill
Yeah I mean at these prices even a lawn mower might cost $10 to fill
I follow a lot of lawn care YouTubers
More than a few commenting about raising prices and canceling contracts of customers not willing to pay enough to cover it
Its not an insignificant difference either, like +$40 on a weekly cut for a quarter acre lot. That’s between a 35-50% price increase depending on the market of the people I’m watching
The trucks to get there being the big portion of that increase not the mowers, but certainly the mower/trimmer/blower opex increased as well
Regardless though anyone not running primary electric rigs are definitely hurting right now
Those who invested into it early, and especially those who got State and Govt incentives, before the current administration shut them down have a massive opportunity to cash in over at least the next ~2 years while this settles, keeping their prices just below whatever their competitors have to charge until their routes are fully booked while those running gas are forced to raise prices and renegociate contracts to maintain profits
+$40 on a weekly cut for a quarter acre lot. That’s between a 35-50% price increase depending on the market of the people I’m watching
bruh is deep in the lore…
i took a chance last year and bought a honda ruckus for daily driving. it pays for itself in the gas im saving, i spend abt 10 bucks a month for gas. i hope to upgrade to a real bike at some point but for now i will enjoy the 100mpg perk.
can i ask what you ride, and the mpg?
Honda ruckus hell yeah I love those things! Sv650 and I get 60mph
oh i like that, reminds me of the honda hornet! i was wishing i had the budget for one of those lol
My CRV takes 10 gallon when it’s on empty. and gets 32 mpg. Just saying.
we’ve been going backwards on fuel efficiency. the little compact i had back in the early 90s got over 40mpg.
Because we discovered that running the engine lean and hot for maximum efficiency creates NOx and we don’t like acid rain.
Greenpeace modified a compact car with off-the-shelf parts in 1996 so it could get 68mpg.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SmILE
I think the gas was in the 6.50 range? Idk.
The display say 17.624 gallons. That is a full size SUV or truck.
Not necessarily. My 4-door sedan holds 18 gallons. It’s 12 years old now. Maybe they’re making them smaller now.
Just saying its less than what I paid for what I would consider to be a “standard”-ish vehicle?
I don’t think a rav4 stands out as an interesting vehicle.
That’s like 68 litres. My current sports car and my last 3 sedans have all had bigger tanks than that.
Could be a labourer. I didn’t see much point in trucks and such before but now it makes sense for some to have them.
17 gallons is 64 liters, that’s a midsize sedan tank.
Yeah you should not drive a tank either. Even if it is midsize.
some people have a buttload of kids to haul around. generalizing this topic isnt helpful
You guys subsidize milk, you should be paying more. And our milk is better quality and organic, Thats why we refuse to buy the crap from the US
Do… do you put milk in your car?
Are you okay, buddy?
High fuel prices is a good thing and a 32" TV shouldn’t be that cheap.
It is when you offshore all your jobs and import from slave labor countries, all while using a currency that is able to be printed from thin air effectively taxing the world because it’s a reserve currency.
Why is your fuel so cheap??
Political choices and lobbying
Probably before VAT.
Nope. Gas pumps are one of the only places in the US where the price as displayed includes taxes.
That’s bizarre. Worse than being consistent, somehow.
Because otherwise it would just be confusing? So let’s have two systems instead.
I mean if the US could get away with a more confusing system it would
Because the US is the largest exporter of petroleum products in the world.
And assholes, but I saw a pack of hotdogs for 10 bucks today here in Oklahoma
Norway exports far more than they use, and petrol prices there are among the highest in the world.
That is a policy decision. In places like Saudi Arabia, gas is cheaper than water.
Norway, correctly, invested more into public transit and EVs, and high gas prices encourage that.
In places like Saudi Arabia, gas is cheaper than water.
Because it’s a fucking desert surrounded by salt water. Desalination is expensive.
Its a matter of abundance and where the government decides that abundance can go. Desal is expensive, but you have all the energy you need to power it flowing out of the ground, the cost is somewhat defrayed.
The Gulf states chose to hoard the wealth at the top and build major hubs without reliable public transit. Which is reflective of a policy decision. Its also a matter of what refineries are where and what grade of oil they will process.
US fuel is heavily subsidized compared to the rest of the world.
I was thinking that. Hot fuck is that cheap.
I guess there has to be something positive about the country.
I can’t tell if you’re from outside the US, or from California.
Ha. But am outside, and an online calculator says the price here converts to $9.08 a gallon for diesel. And that’s cheaper than it’s been recently.
There was a Planet Money episode that broke down where the $4/gallon went in 2022:
$2.40 for the price of crude oil when priced at $100/barrel.
$0.65 to the refiner that turns crude oil into gasoline (this was the prevailing spread in 2022, maybe different now).
$0.184 in federal taxes
$0.30 in state taxes
$0.20 to $0.50 for transportation from the refiner to the actual retail station.
Remainder is for the retailer (usually about $0.30 but fluctuates wildly).
That’s how it is in the U.S. In other countries, it might be higher taxes, higher cost of refining, higher costs of transportation from the refiner, and higher margins for the retailer.
Low taxes, high production, and government corn subsidies.
ehh, why not? electronics got really cheap.
Nah its a ad delivery and surveillance device that you pay for, like the superbox but less nefarious https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/172/
Yeah gas should be a lot more expensive.
TV is cheap because you are the product. CEOs want you to see their ads, their propaganda.
Gas is expensive because they have not yet found a way to stop car-owner from leaving the sofa in front of TV
Tvs are cheap because manufacturing costs came down. They were cheap before they were smart
Both are true. Manufacturing costs went down significantly, but non-smart TVs are now more expensive than equivalent smart TVs by over $100 from what I have seen.
TVs harvest user data which is monetized as well
Car companies could learn a lot from the printer industry.
But they do have ads at the pumps
I neither, can I pay double for the Tv without the poorly named smartness in it?
The price of the TVs hadn’t caught up to the price of energy and other commodities that are used to manufacture and transport them. We will be seeing that inflation hit over the next 6 months
Gas is cheaper than milk, Thats kinda fucked considering gasoline is finite
you think cows are infinite?
Yes it’s called breeding. You can’t breed more gasoline
it takes limited resources to breed the living beings youre talking about
Food and grass are also growable
so youre just going to act like you dont understand at all huh
So wait tire saying they aren’t? Or are you still insisting petroleum is renewable? Milk is renewable, gas is finite, so gas should not be cheaper than milk. Thats a pretty easy point
Jurassic Park says otherwise 😉
Actually, Bloomberg Finance recently warned about how the cattle replacement level is precariously low in the US. It takes a minimum of a one-year forecast to gauge how many dairy cows will be born to reach milk production status, and apparently farmers are having a difficult time with all the debt and limited resources hampering them. Because of the US’s red meat addiction, we are currently at best only at minimum replacement, which is really concerning until the nation reduces some of its cattle consumption; otherwise, beef prices will continue to rise…
this is one example the sort of nuance was hinting at. cheers
The fuck? Milk is 2x to 4x cheaper ($0.50-$1.00) than the most common gas, Natural 95 ($2.10) here. I thought you’d get something from those crazy “Got milk?” dairy subsidies…
(Multiply by 4.5 to get US units rather than liters)
2x cheaper is a crazy way of saying half as expensive.
It’s fewer syllables, what’s the problem? And yes, milk is cheaper here than the same quality in the US. And don’t forget that we don’t get the crap “regular” gasoline with as low as 87 octane rating, the lowest widely available one is 95.
Similarly, 75 % of milk drunk here is UHT-treated, as opposed to 10 % in the US.
You don’t have much better gasoline there it’s just that you use a different unit for measuring the octane. They aren’t actually much different
Well it’s partially true.
87 AKI is widely available in the US as the minimum octane rating. That translates to 91 RON. I’ve never seen anything under 95 here in Estonia, or at least not this century. 95 and 98 are the only commonly found numbers. 98 is available in the US too, as 93 AKI, but not everywhere as I understand.
because expensiveness is a scale that starts from 0 so you always know how expensive everything is. cheapness works the other way, so there’s no starting point. that means there’s no way to quantify how cheap the first thing is, in order to double that. in your example gasoline would have to be the least cheap thing possible, which means nothing can be more expensive.
it’s like saying someone’s twice as short as someone else. half as tall makes sense, twice as short is a weird way to say it because how short is the first person?
“Cheaper” means “less expensive”. 2x cheaper means 2x less expensive, or less expensive by a factor of 2, or 0.5x as expensive. I can say 2x shorter, 2x slower etc. and I don’t see a problem. The adjectives “cheap” and “expensive” don’t relate to a number quantity called “expensiveness” or “cheapness” but “price” or “cost”, which is what the factor applies to, and the word specifies if it’s an increase or decrease. Everyone I know would understand that it’s the reciprocal of the original price, although I get that in a country whose president can say he slashed proces by 500 % without instantly having to resign, fractions and percentages might have to be specified but that’s longer to say for the same number of significant figures.
Yes, I can find people debating “two times cheaper” (English) but not “zweimal billiger” (German) or “dvakrát levnější” (Czech), in fact the phrase is often used in promotional material. The only results suggesting it’s wrong are English Reddit discussions’ automatic translations to German or Czech, and Google’s AI summary that cotes them.
I won’t stop using it just because people with inferior education sometimes don’t get it. Similarly, I provided the metric value and conversion rate, it’s Americans who need to practice mental math.
I won’t stop using it just because people with inferior education sometimes don’t get it.
I doubt anyone doesn’t get it, it just sounds twice as unnatural to a native English speaker.
Whatever, I’m not convincing anyone with my use of metric and username. I’m avoiding some other weird phrases though, for example you won’t usually see me type “14 days” in English although Czech speakers prefer it to “2 weeks” (idk why, it’s the same number of syllables).
Yet more prof of the insanity of our capitalist system. Fuck this gay earth.
I agree when it comes to an onn TV. It should be the same price as a name brand TV.
Visit Japan or the EU and their fuels prices make the USA cheap. It is odd in the USA, most people are concerned about fuel prices, but healthcare costs are far worse.
Healthcare is only for the weak. I am one if the elect; god loves me, so I won’t ever need to think about that.
Tell me about it. Why is cost of gas what we focus on
A large portion of US adults don’t understand the difference between simple and compound interest.
Many are living with less than 1 month salary as savings.
This results in a largr portion with neither the mental space nor capability (or both) to worry about 6 months down the line when they have to worry for 6 days down the line
Because you pay for gas every couple days with your credit card, while you pay for healthcare rarely
Idk if I’m winning or losing as someone that pays for healthcare way more often then gas…
…DAYS?!
i drive to work every day and i refuel like every other month.
#autoorientedinfrastructure
I ride an ebike. Can someone explain the picture on the left? Is it some sort of tax booth for car ownership?
Your bike has zero impact on the environment. Good for you
The metals used in the frame and battery magically floated down from heaven. Also the tires and plastic parts weren’t used from petroleum …not at all
Not zero, but dwarfed by a car. An E-bike is hands down way more eco-friendly option
The production impact should be still smaller than the production of a motorbike
There was a recent article detailing how if you put a lot of miles on your ebike you’ll need to replace the battery and it’s surprisingly expensive.
But I agree with the other downvoters that you can’t just say “but bad thing” you have to put them into perspective. And your parent comment didn’t claim ebikes are perfect or even good. Just that they literally don’t use gas.

















