RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!

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    Just use your local flock installation like a camera based reporting system. It works best when you scroll through your phone and hold it up to the camera so they can see.

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      Fascist governments will always find ways to imprison dissenters, this is just one way they do so – they’ve been treating those trying to track ICE agents as if they are “violent extremists”

      What’s to stop this fascist government from defining criticism against them as violent extremism? Because that is what they are trying to do. That is always what fascists do. Just following laws won’t keep us safe. Laws do not align with morality.

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      yes like they can gather all the instance admins around the globe, and then finally get the IP of my exit proxy

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          “…internent related crimes …”

          Yup… usually involving massive IP theft, CSAM, financial fraud or data breaches… AND often driven by industrial/financial/legal entities.

          First Amendment speech issues around people venting about a government that right now, seems to have pissed EVERONE off, isn’t likely going to get much traction outside of Kash Patel’s brownnosing FBI circle-jerk.

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            Yeah I’d agree “venting” about it isn’t going to get anyone anywhere. I do draw a distinction between venting and calling for violence while including information that would make enacting that violence quick and easy. To stay clear, I am vehemently opposed to ICE and the actions they’ve been taking.

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              while including information that would make enacting that violence quick and easy.

              Is that something you’ve been seeing a lot of? Or are you inventing something that’s not happening in order to make what is happening sound worse than it is?

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              I hear Kash got called out recently by a senator for being a drunk on the job.

              You know, the more I read up on these clowns, I am beginning to wonder if the whole declarations of this group, that group and the others as being terrorists and a threat to national security… actually it’s all theater made up to hide just how incompetent the current crop of Trump asskissers all really are.

              Weird timeline we’re in right now, for sure.

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          “internet related crimes” is like saying “ocean related crimes”

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      If you’re privately advocating for it when you haven’t done the harder activism first there’s also room for introspection

      (Try and probably find there’s too much policy/community work to have time to think about violence)

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        Am I “they” in your statement? I’m not familiar with what whoever this is. If a person is saying “you should shoot ICE agents with guns when you see them, here’s where they are going to be at X time” thats pretty reasonable to not tolerate. If they say “ICE is a contemporary gestapo and is flagrantly committing crimes against humans” thats an unreasonable thing to censor.

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            What you think doesn’t matter if it is objectively illegal. I don’t think the speed limit should be 65 on my favorite highway. I think it should be 90. Yet I will still be pulled over,ticketed and maybe arrested if I go 90 there.

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                Yeah, impunity is the sticking point there lmao. You and I don’t have that nor should we nor should ICE even though they seem to. Keeping yourself out of jail is step one on making a change. Making it demonstrably easier to put you in jail (by posting threats or non 1A protected speech on a PUBLIC PLATFORM) is idiotic. Like I said in another comment saying shit like I’m talking about is almost always strictly performative. If it wasn’t you’d be out there shooting people or facilitating that act. Not saying how it should or could happen on social media. If you’re using social media to facilitate an act of violence that is a crime, like I laid out in my other comment. Remember step one.

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                  Mandela, Gandhi, MLK, Pankhurst… it’s not uncommon for someone to trigger revolution from behind bars.

                  In principle anyway. Not that any of the online idiots we’re talking about are on that kind of path.

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              There is no such thing as objectively illegal.

              Given the first amendment and the supreme courts stance on originalism one could make a compelling argument that this type of speech is legal. As an example. One could further point to any example of the current administration or the police or examine historical injustice codified into law. Or, just look at Israeli actions.

              Laws are enforced by power. And are dictated by societal pressure. They are not objective in the slightest. There’s an entire profession dedicated to the subjectivity of laws.

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      The problem with this stance is the line in the sand is always moving. It’s either violence now or violence later. Or maybe you just hope that it won’t come to that for you.

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    And I’m sure that when the FBI director sobers up from his latest bout of binge drinking, and trump ass kissing, he will get right on it.

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    Could you please not use lemmy shitpost for dragging random people into your internet arguments? This is for memes and funny things.

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    By those criteria, Trump qualifies to be reported to that FBI hotline. There’s a non-zero chance that some wise people have indeed reported him.

  • Fushuan [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I never planned visiting the US until your laws become normal, which won’t happen, so what will reporting someone that isn’t from the US to the FBI do huh? Jack shit probably.

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      Remeber the head if the network at my university told me that he once was contacted by someone from a US LEA about how someone with an IP from the student housing had said something threatening about then US president George Bush Jr. and wanted information.

      He told them that US law doesn’t apply in Norway, and that they had to go through proper channels by the Norwegian police and court system to get that information.