Please note this does not mean the USSR wasn’t that way. Just want to clarify I’m not a tankie, lol.
same thing happened in Spain, they dropped a couple nukes and one actually detonated but I’m such a way it didn’t trigger a nuclear explosion, just fill the area with highly radioactive material.
Norweigians be laughing…
But who really has the last laugh are the aliens watching this Human Zoo Exhibit right now
Half my immediate family has cancer from undisclosed testing casing nuclear fallout over swaths of the southwest US…
US is run by assholes.
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I went to a beach on the Jersey Shore and saw this sign
And you guys keep voting them in.
Well, sorta. Most of us fail to participate at all in voting, mainly cause we know the system is fucked and nigh impossible to “fix from within”, but also have no clear idea what could be done. Other than the obvious, but not many are eager to face death, obviously…
There are examples where US populations have banded together and voted in people who genuinely care about their interests (Bernie Sanders; AOC; et al). If US peoples of varying electorates actually organised and spoke with one another to endorse and vote in more of these people, change might actually occur.
The issue is threefold: the US population would rather not vote than seek out a third candidate who actually cares about them; the US does not have mandatory voting; and the concept of community has broken down and been sold to individualism so broadly that many in the US would rather vote in a candidate who harms them as long as they harm others than someone who would help them but also help others.
the US population would rather not vote than seek out a third candidate who actually cares about them
The real problem is far more insidious; our first past the post voting, combined with dark money in politics, effectively makes anything more than two choices completely unrealistic. And blaming the apathy of the slave class for the machinations of the pedophile class doesn’t change anything…
There’s a whole list on Wikipedia of Super Fund sites that might at first give you the impression that we as a nation monitor, manage, and clean up the spills of toxic and radioactive waste that happen by industry in this country.
If you start reading about these cases you’ll realize how fundamentally inadequate our legal system is to punish and prevent toxic materials from escaping into everything from our drinking water to our grain.
It’s not just the scale of mistakes and mismanagement, but also the unvarnished evil that lurks in the heart of our nations executive class that intentionally buries radioactive materials and builds a school over it to cover it all up.
Not everything gets a movie made about it especially when the victims of the toxic horror are not white.
Then there are the casual everyday mismanagements that we allow to occur because the owners of those institutions have lots of influence on the government to lower standards and evade punishment.
https://youtube.com/@uscsb The USCSB is another great resource for seeing how poorly our regulatory establishment is equipped to enforce standards on industry.
Source? EdIT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_Goldsboro_B-52_crash
Both of the weapons began their firing sequences upon separation from the aircraft, despite safeguards meant to prevent that from occurring.
This also happened in South Carolina a few years earlier. Unsure when it was revealed to the public. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Mars_Bluff_B-47_nuclear_weapon_loss_incident
God damn the US has so many nukes it can lose them like coins in a sofa.
Holy shit, that close to Raleigh?! Most of the state would have been wiped off the map twice. Maybe parts of VA and/or SC!
Raleigh would have been fine. VA and SC would have heard the explosion but nothing worse. I checked it with a nuclear blast simulator. Even the Tsar Bomba would have killed less than 5% of the population of Raleigh.
“260 times the yield of the Hiroshima bomb” sounds impressive, but most of that energy is wasted heating the nearby air rather than increasing the blast radius. This is why modern nuclear weapons use cluster munitions with smaller yields.
Only “LeSs tHaN 5% oF tHe pOpULaTiOn”
The Tsar Bomba was the largest nuclear bomb ever detonated, so yeah, only less than 5%
Continuing…
The other bomb did not get as far into its firing sequence, but became deeply embedded in a muddy field, and one of its major weapons components (the thermonuclear “secondary” stage) was regarded as irrecoverably lost after an extensive, failed effort to recover it.
Me: “IT’S STILL THERE?!?!”
Continuing…
In 1962, the landowner was paid $1,000 to grant the United States of America a perpetual 200-foot (61 m) radius circular easement over the remains of the buried second bomb.[56][57] The site of the easement, at 35°29′37″N 77°51′30″W, is visible as a disturbed area, and lies approximately 250 feet (76 m) north of an obvious circle of trees (and disused cemetery) in the middle of a plowed field visible on Google Earth.
$1,000 to grant the United States of America a perpetual 200-foot (61 m) radius circular easement
worst deal than selling Manhattan for some beeds.
Thermonuclear secondary stages, A.K.A. the “Fusion” portion don’t detonate unless the first stage has been propperly ignited. While Lithium Deuteride (the second stage fusion fuel) is not safe to handle (corrosive and explodes on contact with water) it’s not going to cause a blast comparable to even a fision bomb.
Time for spicy pilgrimage!
Isn’t the US Air Force still missing like 5 bikes that they lost over the decades?
I could go over mk ultra and other fun little government projects but I guess people already got the point
The fun thing about american history is that americans don’t know it.
At least it was bikes and not nukes.
But speaking of nukes I don’t get why they didn’t continue the lie. If I was an asshole I sure as fuck would not let that go public.
I was wondering where those neighborhood kids got those air force bikes…
It was 6 but one recently turned up
So a complete non-issue and no release of radioactive material? How are these remotely the same?
in that govs fuck up and worry about image. this is how it relates to the orig post.
https://piefed.blahaj.zone/comment/3791025
A near miss and a disaster are worlds apart in terms of consequence, but very close in terms of what went wrong.
Sure. But we have comparable events.
Three Mile Island is an actually comparable event.
The other is a military accident. There could have been no coverup if the bombs went off.
If Chernobyl had almost exploded and melted down, I wouldn’t blame the USSR for trying to hide it.
Yes. And when it did explode, they should have prioritized saving lives rather than preserving national reputation.
Disasters happen. How they are handled is what matters, and on that front, there was a difference between the two sides of the Cold War.
There was a difference but not in the direction you’re thinking. After the US tested a nuclear bomb in the marshal islands that led to an unexpected large fallout not only did they cover it up, they launched a secretive study to see how the fallout would affect the local inhabitants of affected islands. It’s genuinely hard to top that level of fucked up.
Before they knew what the effects would be? Ok.
Whereas your angelic Soviets threw human cattle onto the Chernobyl pyre knowing good and well by then how radiation affected flesh.
What the fuck is wrong with you? Most liberals I’ve seen on lemmy choose to pretend that US crimes against humanity are in the past. Rarely do I encounter someone so defensive that they openly support secret medial experimentation on native peoples. Project 4.1 happened well after the US dropped bombs on Japan. It continued for decades after. Your flimsy defense of such disgusting behavior falls apart under the slightest amount of scrutiny.
Feel free to live in a fantasy world where the US were “the good guys” but in doing so you’re tacitly endorsing the seriously despicable shit the US did to people around the world including it’s own citizens. If you do that don’t be so surprised when people start to call you a fascist.
Castle Bravo was bigger than expected. More tankie bullshit
Yes, and the US mobilized real quick to turn that fallout into an unethical medical experiment on tens of thousands of people. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you? Are you going to defend the Tuskegee experiments too? Have some shame for fucks sake. Reflexively defending crimes against humanity because the US can do no wrong in your mind is incredibly gross.
And the SL-1 incident.
You know how you hear stories sometimes about shadowy government agencies converging on an area for no apparent reason, and then leaving just as fast as they came? People usually assume it’s aliens, but I wonder how many of those incidents have been stupid shit like this.
I think one of these armed hydrogen bombs they dropped on NC was never recovered. Someone said that online I didn’t read it in a publication so idk.
But there was an incident in Portugal, they sent in these service members to clean up this wreckage with no safety gear and they all died of cancer and the government denied it all. Also plutonium I believe.
Probably a lot
Probably all of those, because it’s really unlikely that aliens have come to earth and even less likely that an advanced civilization capable of interstellar travel, would ever get busted.
Agreed.
The army/airforce actively spread rumors of aliens to hide their activities.
Military term for this is “broken arrow”
It happens more than you would think mostly by the US but also Russia. Usually they find the things pretty fast but a few are just missing and at least one I remember was underwater somewhere it couldn’t safely be recovered so the area is patrolled.
I’ve heard that term before, but I had no idea that this was what it referred to. Fascinating.
There’s a movie by the same name about an evil Baldwin brother recovering one to get… Something; i haven’t seen it in years.
Travolta and Slater as B2 pilots, it’s cheesy but still a great action flick
Are you referring to bombs the Air Force accidentally dropped or the Navy losing nuke subs? Cause we’ve done both and no one has explained what happened to the USS Scorpion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sunken_nuclear_submarines
Air force, I think they lost one in the atlantic or gulf in the water but they found one or two swamp ones. My headcannon for the Nemo shark submarine was a mined nuclear sub
That same time period around 2013 we also discovered that several armed nuclear bombs were flown across the US under the mistaken idea that they were dummy bombs.
Wholesome opossum lady isn’t a tankie?? Thank God.
Haha, my goal in life is to be called either an opossum lady or a bat lady. Smashing success!
To be fair, it was North Carolina and you have no idea whether this was intentional.
The largest population of Marshallese people in the continental United States is in Springdale, Arkansas, just a short drive from where I live.
Why is there a large Marshallese population in Arkansas?
Well, you see, between 1946 - 1958, the US government detonated sixty-seven (yes, 67) nuclear weapons on the Marshall Islands, rendering dozens of the islands uninhabitable.
I suppose you could call it a “big whoops” except for the part a where they were fully aware of the dangers of radioactive fallout and just did it anyway.
tf didn’t they drop nukes in arkansas instead? i’d rather live in the Marshall Islands
They got paid 600 million USD as compensation
