I very often have whole days in my week, probably 2 or 3 where I don’t eat any meat at all. I am definitely no vegetarian, I love pork in all it’s forms. But the whole idea of having to have meat with every meal is ridiculous. Beans, falafel, cheese, tofu, etc are all tasty ways to get protein and are usually quite cheap as well.
And yeah the only non open source software I use is games. It took a couple years to get off windows, but I’ve been Linux as my daily driver since 2015 or 2016.
Dont get caught up in labels. If you want to vegetarian but don’t want to give up bacon just do it. Doesn’t matter what you label it it’s just a diet.
Moderation is my favorite word
I am very fun at parties
Vegans will hate me for this but I only eat animals that I don’t find particularly cute.
I don’t eat pig or cow meat because they are beautiful, intelligent animals with great personalities. I do eat lamb because I’ve worked on sheep farms and they are dumb assholes. I eat chicken because they are basically vicious dinosaurs who would eat me if our sizes were reversed.
I’ve yet to get first hand experience with live sausages in their natural environment so I proceed with caution on a case by case basis.
Animals should be respected equally the same way humans are. You don’t disrespect ugly people, a lamb suffers as much as a cat or any other pet.
You don’t disrespect ugly people
You or I may not, but some people absolutely do.
I’ve yet to get first hand experience with live sausages in their natural environment so I proceed with caution on a case by case basis.

How about game sausage? Deer are bag of rocks stupid, though harmless. But at least they get to live a natural life before walking round a corner into an rpg on the way back from the betting shop.
Deer are “overabundant” in my area. Guy I knew hunted them. One day he brings some deer meat to work for everyone to try.
It’s gross, it’s chewy, ropy, and tastes like juniper. I guess it’s free, but no thanks…
I’m not a hunter myself, but plenty of venison on the menu in my childhood in rural Arkansas. It’s definitely inferior to good beef. But, if you treat it like a tough, lean cut of cow, it’s fine. Usually this means adding fat, slow cooking, or both. I never found the taste bad, but chewy and ropy is definitely the default texture unless you work hard to make it more palatable.
When I cook at home, I’m vegan (beans, quinoa, cheese substitute, mostly), but when I go out I can certainly appreciate all meats and dairies.
No that’s a pretty cool stance to hear as a vegan, it means you’re fine with me shooting you because I think you’re a dumb asshole. One less corpsemuncher and they actually wanted it this way.
If you ever get a clean shot on me I encourage you to take it 🙏
Uh, I have bad news on where sausages come from…
Germany?
As a vegan I’m in favour of this because it makes it very clear in what specific way I am superior to someone
On the one hand I approve of this strategy, on the other hand there are so many people that lie to me and themselves that they only eat animal products rarely or only from the most local grass fed farmer and then you spend time with them and you see they always choose the meat option, every single opportunity and since its the cheap corner restaurant that pece of meat has never seen grass in its’ life. It’s disheartening.
Why do you think they feel compelled to lie to you?
When food comes up the subject comes up and some people have a more guilt driven reaction to the topic. My impression is that they feel bad about knowing about the animal abuse and environmental damage, but not having the personal resolve to do something about it. They feel guilty and probably feel like I would be judging them so they make up these scenarios to feel less bad about the whole thing.
That you are judging them is the correct answer
I think my supposed judgment of others would not motivate them to lie to me or themselves if they had no guilt to go with it.
i always wanted to quit smoking, but couldn’t drop the first cigarette with my morning coffee. it took me way too long to make peace with that single cigarette, turns out i can easily forgoe the other 19 I’ve been smoking every day
Last year I nearly quit smoking weed, except when I’m playing Dungeons & Dragons.
that’s fair enough, you probably don’t play d&d every day
even if they do play d&d daily, it’s still less than if they were a morning/noon/night smoker.
I feel like this is a labels issue though… Lots of people don’t want to go “vegan” or “vegetarian” because of a small group of vegans, but if you were to give them a meal without announcing it was vegan they’d probably enjoy it.
Same to an extent for me: I could never give up dairy because I love milk, cheese and butter too much, but I do eat (asian style) vegetarian meals multiple times a week and have at most one meat meal per day, instead of at every meal, and I have a mindset that meat is nice but not that you can’t make other nice dishes with mushrooms, tofu, cheese, etc. - you just have to make different things.
Reframing it as “look at these nice things you can have” seems I think is a lot more accessible than telling people they shouldn’t eat meat, or they should eat less meat, or that the other proteins are just a substitute for meat, which makes it seem like you’re missing out on sobering.
If I went vegan+bacon I would just end up eating a grotesque amount of bacon.
I knew a guy who did this for a time. Ate i ly vegetarian, but fried bacon to every single meal, them crushed it and sprinkled the bacon on as salt.
He did that until he got a job as a chef, then he said it got too hard not to eat any of the delicious food he was preparing at work.
Can you still be incorrigibly self righteous?
Btw the author is the maker of elementaryOS
To this day I’ve stabilized around vegetarian + the occasional pepperoni pizza.
I’ve been more, I’ve been less. Maybe the next step is cutting out some more dairy somehow.
Maybe the next step is cutting out some more dairy somehow
The only things stopping me are cheese and various chocolates. I’m so sorry, you fucking asshole twits, but no matter how lovely watery oat porridge or thin almond paste can be (and their cute tensiony surfaces can be so delighting) in all sorts of intriguing and cute recipes that dance on your tongue as they nearly force (with kindness) your mouth into a smile with soft harp music in the background, hot chocolate that doesn’t suck your stomach out your asshole with those horrible oil adjacent bitch baths isn’t possible. Oh! But to softly stir the oat syrup into the flour and delicately knead it with fingers… what joy!
I think giving up cheese would be a lot easier if there were widely available cultured plant-based options. We have some really bang-up plant-based butter and cream replacements at this point, I’ve had plant-based cottage cheese and white cheese that both were solid.
You can culture plant-based products, that’s really not a problem, but no manufacturer has tackled plant-based cultured cheeses at scale.
I find oat milk is just way better than regular milk anyhow
I Aldo don’t like cow’s milk, but I don’t like oat milk either. Tastes like oatmeal, which makes sense. Soy and macadamia are my preferences.
To each their own, but I’d say give some different brands a shot. Some are very oatmeal foward, but I’ve found brands like Silk and Chobani to be smooth and just lightly oatey.
When I finally tried it I was honestly blown away by how good of a milk-alternative it is! The fact that it has a much lower environmental impact and is super easy to make at home is just the icing on top!
Except Kirkland oat milk which is pure ass, although then I switched to the Califia Farms stuff on Costco’s website and I like it better than cow’s milk now
Replacing milk with oat milk is easy and works well.
Cheese though…
Oat is goat tbh
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Okay my Lemmy client doesn’t support emojis, but that is fucking adorable and did a little to brighten my day! Tiny goat!
Unless someone is a on a serious carnivore diet, then we probably eat “vegan” more than we realize.
I had an English muffin with some homemade wild raspberry jam and a banana with my tea this morning. I have already planned an Indian lentil curry and rice for supper tonight. I don’t know what I’m having for dinner today, but I could have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich I suppose.
A whole day without meat. Not that I actually considered doing that because “vegan.” But because that’s what sounds good to eat today. Tomorrow, maybe some smoked oyster stuffed venison loin chops for supper perhaps or some eggs and bacon for breakfast.
I’m not foss at my core OS level unfortunately because of nvidia hardware and my brother insisting “Windows 11 is fine dude! Stick with Windows!”, its funny hes got a AMD card…
I have a Windows 11 gaming 4070 SUPER Desktop as well as an elderly Windows 10 TV “Console” 2070 desktop. I have both LCD & OLED Steam Decks and some “revived from Windows bloat” linux laptops.
I am tempted to convert the “console” to Bazzite once I get the time to set that up but its my old gaming PC and I know they’re old irreplaceable files I want to scoop up before I wipe it and install that.
That all said, on my windows machines I use foss whenever available.











