• Luminous5481 "Enemy of the State"@anarchist.nexus
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    10 months ago

    this has been a thing since early 2024.

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy-settings-for-recommendations-offers-in-windows-11-807608ee-3de2-4498-8e7c-eb10d655567f

    If you choose to turn on Personalized offers, we will use information about your device and how you use it, including Windows diagnostic data, in combination with your account info and data collected by other Microsoft products and services to offer you personalized tips, ads, and recommendations to enhance your Windows experiences. Personalized offers include suggestions on how to customize and optimize Windows, as well as ads and recommendations for Microsoft and third-party products and services, features, apps, and hardware to enhance your Windows experiences. For example, Windows might tell you about new features to help you get the most out of your device. If you stream movies in your browser, Windows might recommend an app from the Microsoft Store that streams more efficiently. Or, if you are running out of space on your hard drive, Windows might recommend you try OneDrive or purchase hardware to add more storage.

      • Camille_Jamal@lemmy.zip
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        10 months ago

        “someone died because the cpr tutorial had 5 unskippable minute long ads”

        <joke> you all are worrying about your small problems, but what about John the shareholder? why isn’t anyone thinking of John the shareholder? </joke>

        yeah I use tone indicators like html tags, no, you can’t stop me

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      10 months ago

      Spotlight isn’t much better, ads creeping in, and in App Store, Apple TV, and tons of popups for apple subscriptions now

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        10 months ago

        I have disabled everything except calculator, calendar and settings in results from apps and it’s somehow usable. Can’t disable stupid buttons.

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    10 months ago

    I typed “add or remove programs” which is verbatim the name of the shortcut, clicked enter, and it searched Bing for the phrase.

    Windows search bar is useless.

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      10 months ago

      Eh, people put up with much worse shit than this in the grand scheme of things.

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      10 months ago

      Windows users likely disabled that shit when they first installed the OS and never looked back.

      Much the same as Linux users tweak the OS to their tastes.

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        10 months ago

        actually no. most users don’t and they don’t know how to change it, and when they do whether its because they have to or because its annoying and they nearly break the system 3 times, and when they reboot it so the changes take effect, it reverts all changes made

        but hey, at least they don’t have to touch a command line or terminal

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          It started off like you were trying to say something factual but then it became clear you’re completely exaggerating so I have no idea if you even believe anything you said.

          And then you finished up with a random dig at people who don’t want to use the terminal. Is this Slashdot in the early 2000s? Why are you shitting on people for using what they feel more comfortable with? Do you have infinite time to get familiar with everything in your life in order to use what, in the long term, is most effective (in your opinion)? Do you shit on people who drive automatic cars for “being afraid of the clutch” or on people who hire someone to install a light switch for fearing to “touch the circuit breaker”?

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            10 months ago

            sorry made that when i was tired and my thoughts can not be coherently put in words when I am tired

            it looks like i was trying to be sarcastic/make a joke

            i’m also shit at the terminal so no, there is no superiority or anything, i’ll break something if i touch settings or terminal. i was probably trying to make a joke and trying to make it somewhat relatable, but all intent is lost because i don’t know right now

    • SkyNTP@lemmy.ca
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      10 months ago

      It all makes so much more sense when you accept the fact that the vast majority of the population doesn’t know what the Windows Terminal is, but instead can tell you every detail about Taylor Swift’s engagement.

      Sorry for your loss. Linux is there for you though.

  • Maiznieks@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Of course! Call to action button is missing, should be a green, vibrating “PURCHASE” button

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    10 months ago

    Seriously. Holiday season is normally when family members ask for tech support. I couldn’t believe how much work it was to just navigate a Windows 11 machine.

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      10 months ago

      Yes, but there’s an official microsoft app named Terminal, and it’s honestly a very good application. You can do CMD and Powershell, as well as WSL, all in the same native windows 11 app.

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        10 months ago

        I checked on my work VM that sadly runs Win11. There is a Terminal app now, but it opens powershell on this system at least.

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          10 months ago

          It does, but you can reconfigure it to open the old cmd.exe or even your WSL installation.

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    10 months ago

    Certainly it looks like your trying to post a meme on Lemmy 👍🔥 Do you need help with that? Here’s my top memes brought to you by Raid Of Warfare get the new frog togs skin only $4.99.

    Would you like to open this in edge? 💪🤔

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      Would you like to open this in edge? 💪🤔

      I spent time over the holidays setting up edge on a relative’s laptop.

      One where I could’t enable the play store.

      Long story short, he has to wrong two bash scripts and can use it through a VM with debian 12 with KDE, because I tried to install wine on there last year.

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          Because he is the star of the hit IRL game “Boomers & Banks”

          Someone told him to buy a Chromebook, and then he got a mail from his bank that he had to stop using Microsoft explorer and start using edge instead, so he wanted me to install edge on his Chromebook.

          Can’t log in to admin menu, had to launch Linux VM in Chromebook.

          DNS kept resetting so i made a script to update DNS and one to launch KDE

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      10 months ago

      Switched to 11 to keep up with our employees updating their laptops. It’s been completely pain free. I managed 130 laptops at my last job, no problems. No idea how people are getting crap such as pictured.

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    If anyone wants a fix for this, yes I know Windows sucks etc, I have to use it for my job:

    Press Win + R, type gpedit.msc, and hit Enter.

    Navigate to Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Search.

    Double-click Do not allow web search and set it to Enabled.

    Double-click Don’t search the web or display web results in Search and set it to Enabled.

    Click Apply and OK.

    • kadu@scribe.disroot.org
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      10 months ago

      If this comment was suggesting a Linux command to fix an issue on Reddit, rather than Windows aerobics on Linux, it’d have a thousand comments about how Linux is not ready for end users because nobody wants to browse obscure options to fix usability problems.

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          True. They opened a dialogue box that uses a 2007 UI, changed one specific obscure policy, “enabled” the policy to “disable” the feature (how intuitive!) and are now praying it doesn’t reset after a system update. All of that to be able to use search, a feature computers had mastered in 2002.

          How user friendly! So lucky he didn’t have to use a command line interface!

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          10 months ago

          Win + r and running gpedit.exe is simply a terminal command with extra steps.

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        lol yeah, but to be fair group policy usually doesn’t reset… Until it does. If it were a managed device the domain controller or MDM (Intune) would be resetting it every time you log in so it would stay off but with local group policy you don’t have that kind of guarantee. Strangely to me Intune doesn’t use grop policy and instead uses a separate configuration API that it calls “Configuration Service Providers” that can lock these settings too.

        One of the reasons I run linux at home is that I don’t need to do this for my own computer that has been pretty stable on Debian with XFCE going on 20 years (different hardware too, just migrated home).

      • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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        10 months ago

        that sort of thing on my work computer pissed me off so much that I finally swapped to Linux on two of my computers at home

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      Why do people still suggest using Group Policy for this?

      It’s complicated for the average user, it’s non-existent for the vast majority (Windows Home doesn’t give access to gpedit.msc).

      Just go Search -> Settings -> turn off Web Search. Job done, like a normal person.

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        10 months ago

        In many if not most cases, you can just add the registry entry for the setting, even in home versions, though to your point, it’s harder than it needs to be.

        Really, it shouldn’t be an issue in the first place, but here we are.

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          Really, it shouldn’t be an issue in the first place, but here we are.

          The average user utilises this feature quite a bit (as exemplified by the fact that the feature still exists - the dreaded telemetry is what would tell Microsoft if it was a dead feature). The average user would have no clue how to turn it on (or even that it’s a possibility). The “power user” has no problem turning the feature off.

          Which is why the feature is on by default.

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            I’m skeptical. The average user is an office worker or creator that wants to get their task done and uses search engines of their choice in the browser of their choice for searching, not the start menu, because the start menu opens their query in edge instead of the browser they use.

            I’m not convinced.

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          Group Policy is not intended to be used by average users, it’s for system admins.

          Average users have Settings, in which you need to click five times to get the same result as going through GP gives you.

          Not sure what’s ironic about that.

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        That can get reverted when windows updates, the group policy doesn’t

        No one on Lemmy should be running Windows Home lol

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          That can get reverted when windows updates, the group policy doesn’t

          I set mine through settings 7 years ago on my laptop. It went from Windows 10 (with all updates) to Windows 11 (and all updates) and it didn’t change.

          No one on Lemmy should be running Windows Home lol

          Huh? Why not? Is this some sort of elitist cabal where we look down upon people who can’t dish out the extra money for features 99% of the population don’t need? Or are we somehow advocating for piracy for… clout?

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            Setting can revert, look at this thread. I regret replying, I was mostly joking about Windows Home but he main reason is because it requires a MS account though. Calm down.

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              Setting can revert, look at this thread

              Like, I said:

              I set mine through settings 7 years ago on my laptop. It went from Windows 10 (with all updates) to Windows 11 (and all updates) and it didn’t change.

              It was around 10 years for my PC, although that didn’t go up to Win11.

              No settings changes observed. I don’t know, maybe it’s a regional thing - I’m in the EU.

              I regret replying, I was mostly joking about Windows Home but he main reason is because it requires a MS account though.

              Well, when your joke sounds exactly like what a lot of people are actually saying, and you don’t add the infamous /s tag, don’t be surprised when someone doesn’t interpret it as a joke.

        • Camille_Jamal@lemmy.zip
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          I wish to run linux but dad doesn’t understand shit about it so I’m not allowed to linux mint (chill im a noob) his laptop but he does want me to flash 11 on it because it’s been used a decade no resets and storage is full. the forced update actually deleted a summary i needed for a book project for school lol

          when i get my computer to work, ill linux the thing, whatever i find most comfortable with as a safe distro, multibooted with whatever i’m experimenting with. all i need is a power supply, a case, and an on button

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      All the problems these people bitch about with Windows never happen to me. Maybe it’s because I started with a plain vanilla ISO, no preloaded crap. 🤷🏻‍♂️

      Best part? When I mention that I’m not having these problems I get downvoted.

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        I don’t know where you are, but it might be something about being within the EU. I am in the EU, and never get any of the ads and other shit people complain about. Like the biggest complaint I see about smart tv’s is that they’ll show ads on the smart screen, or install random apps, and neither my current Samsung tv, or my previous LG tv has ever done anything like that.

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        I have to use Windows at work and it’s inconsistent. Sometimes I can do a search in the start menu and it’ll immediately pop up with exactly what I was searching for. Other times I’ll get something like the OP shows. And other times it just returns nonsense results. I don’t get it.

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        I’ve definitely had this happen to me on Windows, more than once. I can’t remember what I searched exactly, but I typed it in and hit enter, assuming I’d get the installed app with whatever name I typed, but instead it opened the browser with some online search results. Very annoying.

        I’m sure it can be turned off, and it probably isn’t as common as it’s portrayed online, but it does happen, and honestly… It should never happen. The start menu is not the place for generic Internet searching. Period.

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      10 months ago

      This is the same kind of response when someone denies global warming/climate change because they looked outside and the weather around them appears normal.

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        That’s a pretty wild stretch.

        It’s a like for like comparison, although I guess mine was done in 2026 so the meme is outdated.

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          So in other words, Microsoft saw the backlash specifically about searching “terminal”, so they fixed that one specific bug.

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              They’re in a massive PR situation with Windows 10 eol, and clearly an issue with tons of people doing literally everything they can do not switch. Social media is full of people complaining about it, and this goes viral. A simple tweak to the update they were going to put out anyway, and now it cannot be reproduced, so the people who were complaining look like liars.

              Is it really that difficult to believe?

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                I just want to make sure you’re asserting that they went in and hardcoded it so that “terminal” pulls this up?

                VS a more realistic “people complained about search and it’s been improved”

                Or the real scenario: it’s a meme joke that doesn’t factually represent real life but is instead supposed to by hyperbole.

                The techno-tribes asserting nefarious intent for the other techno-tribes is so so so very human.

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      10 months ago

      I believe the claim that Windows search is “indeterminate”, and won’t give the same answer each time. I’ve had things I’ve tried that turned out like that.

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      Doesn’t this just prove that the search is inconsistent though… Unless you’re claiming the original screenshot is photoshopped/faked?  

      The inconsistencies in the win 11 search as well as the forced advertisements on a device that I not only own, but also built is ultimately what pushed me away from windows on all my devices. I don’t need a search bar that gets confused because it also needs to serve ads that are relevant to my telemetry they’ve collected, just find what I’m looking for and return it.  

      But equally I’m an engineer by trade, so learning a new OS isn’t a daunting prospect for me, I can fully appreciate that these are issues that wouldnt bother everyone/aren’t significant enough for people to want to make a change.   

       

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        My claim is that the picture above is a fluke and what it may have been and it has since been improved.

        The meme can be accurate, as were now in 2026 and not 2025 so it may have been fixed.