• hellure@lemmy.org
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    4 months ago

    Only I’m not a boomer dumbass, and I am right.

    Check your facts, and stop trying to dismiss other people’s statements out of hand just because you think they’re a certain age.

    Logical fallacy much?

    Note: I’m not responding to OP directly, but instead to everyone who’s ever called me a fucking boomer!

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    8 months ago

    Yes, but it has nothing to do with generations, or age. I prefer “MAGA” to boomer, because I think that’s the group most people have a problem with. MAGA does not correlate well with age. MAGA comes in all ages, and even cuts across class. With the rich class supporting it because it’s to their advantage, and the bigots of the poor class supporting it because they are bigots and ignorant.

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      8 months ago

      MAGAs and boomers are different groups (that’s why the words are spelt differently)

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      8 months ago

      MAGA is a group of people in the US. This phenomenon however is worldwide, and nobody in other countries is going to use a US reference for it.

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        Boomers are a US generation though. Where I live, boomers would’ve been born in the early 90s. Thats when we had the baby boom.

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      8 months ago

      slurs used on people for things you cant control ❌️ slurs used on people for things 100% in their control ✅️

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              As soon as my PCOS got treated (metformin) I lost 20 pounds. Looking back, it should have been caught decades ago. It pisses me off how much “you just need diet and exercise!” bullshit I swallowed when all I needed to do to lose weightwas take a stupid pill to treat the underlying condition.

              Caveat: I believe treating the underlying condition has had a bigger impact on my health than weight loss.

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                Generally speaking though, most overweight people are fat because they eat too much. Thats it. And then they look to stupid fads and cheats to lose the weight without actually changing their relationship to food. Its not you, and thats cool. Glad you got your issue sorted out. But I cant help but wonder, how many people are right now reading your experience while eating their 2nd large pizza, and thinking “I must have that!”…

                So many people are never will to take responsibility for their life choices. And most of them are on social media hammering downvote buttons telling that they should be looking after themselves better.

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                  I did watch the video, it’s pretty good. He’s discussing the motivators behind overeating. He points out in the beginning that CICO is something that cannot be violated due to thermodynamics (incorrectly saying it’s the second law when he means first), but where the CICO approach fails is in addressing the obesity epidemic.

                  Ultimately, it is a personal decision to consume food. The genetic difference is in how hard this is. Genetics does not affect the physics at play. If you consume fewer calories than you expend, you will lose weight. There are no genetics that will permit you to derive more calories from food than what is consumed. Period.

                  Sometimes you just have to embrace the ascetic part of dieting and just suffer. Life is suffering anyhow, so you might as well make peace with it. It’s okay to be hungry, just like it’s okay to be bored. We’re not supposed to be satiated 24/7.

                  Please note I’m not saying over or under weight people are somehow worse people than those who are fit because they have poor willpower or something like that. We all have our problems, and everyone deserves respect as we navigate this fucked up life.

                  The thing is, nobody is going to be able to solve your problems except you. There is no pill that will fix your diet, and it’s not your genetics that put the food in your mouth. Genetics can make you want to eat, but you can choose not to act on this impulse. It can be trained just like anything else. The only lasting solution lies within, whether that’s learning how to deal with not giving into your hunger pangs, or forcing yourself to eat when you’re not hungry, or just learning to love yourself as you are.

    • TheEntity@lemmy.world
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      Unlike their boomer ancestors, the current generations talk with their partners about all sorts of things, not just about sex and dinner. Almost as if they are not only sexual partners but also close friends that understand each other.

      TL;DR: Ok, boomer.

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            I don’t think anyone who ever texted like that is still under 25 anymore. It rapidly dropped off around 2010 as smartphones with full keyboards became widespread, and not using full words was a signal that you hadn’t got one yet. That was fifteen years ago, so to still be under 25, you’d have had to be texting people while aged under ten, and people didn’t give preteens phones back then.

            • RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com
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              You’re being pedantic.

              Kids these days 100% use similar shorthand, and often think proper capitalization, spelling, grammar, and punctuation are “too ChatGPT” or “aggressive.”

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                not even kids. i’m in my 40s and my 30s friends think my texts w/ complete sentences are ‘too demanding and aggressive’.

                so i stop texting them and i call them then they tell me I’m ‘violating their boundaries’.

                THEN they while about how anti-social everyone is these days… i just gave up.

                many people seem truly committing to being miserable no matter what.

                i miss the early 2010s when people were more laid back. now everyone is hyper critical of every tiny thing for some reason.

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    But “okay boomer” has just become a bland, flavorless retort that gets said by anyone to anyone for any reason.

    It isn’t an expression of frustration at an audience that rejects facts and reason, it is a pithy retort that gets thrown out to say “STFU” to someone in slightly more polite terms.

    Like, the root of this isn’t unfair. But as with so much internet lingo, the initial intent has been polluted by online gooners who latch on to a phrase and use it as a barb rather than to convey any particular kind of coherent message.

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    8 months ago

    I’m so old that I used to tell this story to people to figure out if they were too young to bother with:

    A friend and I were in a cheap restaurant for breakfast after being up all night. Server brings the drinks we ordered, sets them down, goes about her business.

    “… Hey! This isn’t orange juice. This is Tang. Who does she think we are, astronauts??

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      Hah, your powers of deduction won’t work on me! For I am young, and not even from the same continent as the USA so Tang never existed here!

      But I know the link between NASA and Tang because I’m a NERD! MUHAHAHAHA (It wasn’t ever actually Tang that flew but rather a NASA concoction, but boy is it good advertising!)

      One particular astronaut was once caught on a hot mic complaining that he was extremely sick and tired of drinking the juice they provided and made them drink in significant quantities during the flight… I’ll leave you to go look the details of what he said and why they insisted they drink so much of it, because I want you to get sucked in to Apollo history too 😈

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    8 months ago

    Just wait - Millennials and Gen-Z - until there’s a war and an active draft in the US again.

    Venezuela anyone? (Dear God, I hope not but the current asshat in the Oval Orfice seems bent on taking a page from the Monroe Doctrine and adding teeth. Gotta justify Kegsbreath’s trillion dollar DOD budget plans after all…)

    Shit’s gonna get VERY real and you may gain a bit of insight as to why 'boomers just gave up and “went condo” as they used to say.

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      8 months ago

      Venezuela

      that’ll just be the start, these fucks will have US kids patrolling the darien gap and defoliating the fucking continent given half a chance

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        Oh, don’t you know it.

        If half of what cunts like Hegseth and President Miller want to do become action, this country is in for a rough time of it… starting with everyone under 27. :(

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      There will never be another draft. Our military is to big, and we aren’t going to try to occupy anything. Drones knock down our deployment numbers drastically. Unless there was actually a war with someone like China or on our own soil, there is no need. We currently have about 2 million people already volunteered. Our largest force during the Afghanistan/Iraq bologna was around 100k. So we could send 10x that and not get into the reserves. Our military is way to damn big

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        The military also doesn’t want to go back to a draft army. Discipline and morale suck with a draft army and there is severe political blowback to casualties from drafted personnel.

        A lot of reforms post Vietnam were made to make sure that the US military didn’t need to draft.

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          A lot of reforms post Vietnam were made to make sure that the US military didn’t need to draft.

          Selective Service would like a word with you.

          An all-volunteer military isn’t that ironclad an outcome. I can certainly see service being used to leverage young men and of course “inform” them with nationalistic propaganda.

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    This gives me flashbacks to the one time in my life I really wanted to answer “okay boomer”

    My father in law was supporting the claim the climate change might exist, but it’s nothing we have to concern ourselves about because it’s going to take decades to do anything.

    And I was like: you have grandkids, they will be there in decades! And: you just experienced the first drought of your country, how is that not climate change??

    After half an hour going in rounds I gave up and bit my tongue to not torpedo our relationship. Two years later he admitted that maybe there was something about climate change nowadays…

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      Life is too short to bother maintaining relationships with people like that. They can rot away in lonely isolation, like they deserve.

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        You know one snippet of my father in law. Is it really sufficient for you to judge the whole man? I sure hope never to be judged so harshly!

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          He literally told you he didn’t give a shit about your kids or theirs. That’s indeed sufficient enough for most reasonable people.

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      Decades ago my stepmother did this in front of her 8 year old daughter… I was like, ok you’ll be dead, and you don’t need to care about me as your stepson, but what about her?

      Ughh… Now her and my dad are MAGA…

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      bit my tongue to not torpedo our relationship

      I’m so glad my wife is basically no contact with her parents, because I never have to play nice with them.

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        In my case, they are overall nice and caring people with, sometimes, a bit of a blind spot. I was very glad when they came around on the climate change issue, that was the only sore spot between us.

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          You’re still more patient Than I.

          It’s great that they’re rational enough to change their views in the face of evidence, even if it takes more evidence than it usual.

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      dude torpedo the relationship, who gives a fuck. if they want to be ignorant fucks and ruin their relationship with their child, that’s on them

      they won’t change if there are no repercussions

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        You advocate blowing up a parent-child relationship just for not getting the instant gratification of convincing them to change their political views in a single day?

        That’s decades of history prior and more in the future hopefully. Some things just take time.

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          We wil be dead from climate change before they figure it out.

          This isn’t some social cause you can be a conservative for. This is high stakes and a deadline.

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          no, I advocate for not appeasing ignorant assholes, and if the ignorant asshole chooses to react poorly to it, let them

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        Some people just take a while to absorb new information.

        My father would always seem like he was completely stuck in his ways and unyielding if you argued with him for one day. But if you came back the next day, he usually had a much better view and had accepted some of your statements.
        I actually enjoyed debating him once I learned this, and learned to drag out the debates over several days. I also understood a lot more by copying his method of learning.

        Not everything needs to be instant. Give people information, then give them time to think about it.

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          yes, that’s what I was getting at. doesn’t need to be right that moment, but it certainly doesn’t need to be two years.

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      Two years later he admitted that maybe there was something about climate change nowadays…

      At least they changed their mind (a little bit). I think this is a huge part of the problem: admitting an error and being supported for that admission is something that is frowned upon in certain groups. I think toxic masculinity plays one big factor here. Admitting errors is seen as “not masculine”, especially within conservative groups.

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        it’s frown upon by every group.

        nice way to blame ‘masculinity’ though. as of women or something don’t do that shit.

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          I am not sure where your defensive reaction comes from, but please read something about toxic masculinity before being so vocal about your opinion. Toxic masculinity can be reinforced by all genders and all genders can be victims.

          And admitting your own errors is definitely not equally seen in different groups.

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    It’s never worth your time or effort to have a discussion/argument with someone who isn’t going to participate in good faith.

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    That is spot on. I have just concluded that it isn’t my responsibility to educate my parents. And since they don’t listen anyway, I also realized that since that is the case, we have not become closer through the years; but actually the opposite. And that all because they’re not willing to accept facts, because they’re lazy and entitled.