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Greta Thunberg could have, by now, carved out a very comfortable life for herself as a liberal grifter-celebrity offering platitudes about personal responsibility at Davos. Instead she connected the dots between ecocide, capital, and empire, aiming squarely at the heart of the beast. And now fresh out of captivity she downplays her own suffering to recenter the urgency of aid to the Palestinian people. No wonder she’s hated by the fascist+lib coalition that rules this world.

Author: JP (@[email protected])

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    she’s useful distraction puppet, so you feel you have someone on your side, she rebel so you don’t have to

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    That interview she just put out was gut wrenching. She has every right to feel indignant at her treatment but she still wants to fight and reframe the discussion around those that are suffering more.

    Shes basically The Shit.

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      She is as bad ass as these right wing grifters wished they were. But if your audience is brain dead, you don’t actually have to do anything, you can just claim things.

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      Unsure if it’s the one you’re referring to, but she did an interview in Swedish and the frustration you hear from her is just as gut wrenching.

      I could speak of all of the children who are no longer able to go to school, of all the children who required amputation, of all the children now orphaned. Of all of the houses and quarters that have been obliterated by bombs. I could also speak of the extreme physical abuse and the torture we were subjected to in prison. I could speak of the many bombings that our boats were attacked with on the way to Gaza. But nothing sticks! I could list all the international laws and UN conventions that Israel is breaking every day, of which we have seen a tiny, tiny piece. But this has already been said thousands of times. And like I said, it doesn’t stick.

      She technically says “it doesn’t bite” rather than stick, but I don’t think that kind of phrasing works in English. In essence, it means to have an effect. She expresses that nothing she can say will have any sort of effect, so why bother talking about it? That it’s not like we’re unaware of what’s going on, but that we’re choosing to ignore it. How no matter what atrocities we’re exposed to, nothing has the effect of making those in power do something about it.

      We’re pouring money to Ukraine in this proxy war against Russia, which obvs. isn’t a bad thing, Ukraine deserves the support. Yet our politicians are expressing none of that staunch humanitarian fervour for the Palestinians.

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      the queen of protests, adored by the radical left, a purely protest based organization. life goal? that’s way too long term for you

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    Many people hate her because she is the antithesis of what they think a woman should be. On top of it she has a lot of qualities (courage, persistence, passion etc) that these people wish to have themselves but don’t so they try to compensate by attacking her.

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      People really try to reach when hating her, they don’t realize how pathetic they look when making such attempt

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        It’s especially stupid as well because they’re all: “oh she thinks she’s special because she’s a blonde white girl”. Which is easily contradicted if you spent any amount of time reading or listening to anything she’s done.

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    I feel like when it comes to passion, autism is a superpower. My neurotypical self, would never.

    More power to her.

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      Will is a superpower. Drive and focus are superpowers. Hyperfixation are just happenstance. She has done this of her own making and design, not because of a quirk of her birth. Anyone is capable of it, given the right mindset.

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        Sure, yes and true until we get to the last sentence. Anyone is absolutely not capable. There are many reasons why some people will never get to the mindset required to sustain any of these superpowers no matter what because the genes and brain wiring you end up with are more powerful than any external factors.

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        I think they should remove Aspergers from the autism umbrella. It’s clearly advanced or evolutionary, not a negative syndrome. I know, some won’t have excuses to make anymore, but that’s probably a good thing.

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          No it’s not. I have what used to called Aspergers and it’s not a freaking superpower, it made my childhood a painful and confusing time and still causes my trouble today. You can’t judge all autistics by one autistic. Look at Elon Musk, you think he represents the autistic community?

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            My cousin was diagnosed with Asperger’s a long time ago and I can agree with you for a fact that it definitely presents in many different ways, and cannot simply be called a ‘superpower’. He has struggled for a very long time and continues to struggle to this day. Thank you for providing a balanced opinion.

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          Evolution does not ‘advance’, that’s a very commonly repeated fallacy. Organisms change and adapt to their environment, but what is ‘better’ or ‘worse’ is entirely dependent on that environment, which can easily change. Asperger’s is no more an ‘advancement’ than red hair or sickle-cell anemia.

          I agree that classing all forms of Autism as a disability or negative trait is absolutely foolish. But believing it to be superior is equally foolish. People are diverse, and some better adapted to this life, this society. You perhaps see Asperger’s as a better adaptation to how you perceive society ‘should be’, which is relatable to me.

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          Well there is a sociological theory that autism evolved and was kept around in the population because the tribe always needed someone laser focused on the tiny differences between berries or something. They were probably responsible for a lot of the leaps forward because everyone else would be just getting on with life and didn’t have the mental space for anything else.

          After they invented flint napping it probably gave them very high status within the tribe, so they would have had a lot of kids and so the trait was retained. But equally it would be detrimental if everyone was like that because you still need people to be good at hunting so although the trait would have survived, it would have always been a minority of the population. Which of course is exactly what we see, it just looks a bit different now there are 7 billion of us.

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            Processes for Cheese? Sour dough? Beer? As if these were invented by normies, amirite?

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              Yeah whoever invented beer was probably given leader of the tribe lifetime status.

              Although jokes aside it probably wasn’t very strong, it was more about finding way to purify water

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              Those are so easy to make they’re likely accidents. Literally just leave some random fruit in water and you’ll probably get alcohol or vinegar.

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                Easy in retrospect, yes. So easy, that now even neurotypical people can follow recipes and make good beer or wine.

                But it takes a special sort of nerd to notice the differences in when that random spoiled fruit turns to alcohol and when it goes straight to vinegar. It takes a deeply different mindset to get obsessed with that question and do the work to figure out how to control the process by experimenting.

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        Yes and no.

        Strong feelings about perceived justice and refusing to do what you know is wrong, to the point you rather sacrifice yourself then make a compromise are clinically known common tenets in autism.

        Source: I am an autist and this was part of my diagnosis. It remains a challenge in holding a job because i refuse to work for anything that creates profit and frequently openly question the ethics of management decisions.

        Still Greta is an idol of mine since her first move precisely because she did what i had never been able too. Which was to stop listening to my peers and acting on my own accord.

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          Strong feelings about perceived justice and refusing to do what you know is wrong, to the point you rather sacrifice yourself then make a compromise are clinically known common tenets in autism.

          This feels like something added by groups in power who want to maintain a status quo rather than an actual medical scientific reasoning, kind of how before being LGBT was a mental disease and women’s brains were different and that’s why they couldn’t do what men do in white collar jobs or positions of power. Or phrenology being used to explain why whites were superior.

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            Something they don’t teach in school is how the concept of a disability only emerges in contrast to an individuals environment.

            If the majority of people where high functioning neurodivergents then the world would be designed to play into their strengths and they would be “neurotypical”. Everyone who is neurotypical now would have a neurological disadvantage and thus count as disabled.

            In a modern perspective of autism and adhd in human history its quite possible that society requires us as a subgroup, similar (often overlapping) to the prehistoric advantage of having 10% of you group being nightowls that could keep the communal fire burning.

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              A rash of artificial selection experiments has provided serious support for the existence of the type of ‘balancing selection’ at the population level you describe.

              One experimental setup I know really well involved frightening aquaria full of zebra fish (an important model species for many things in biology research.

              The researchers would hide behind a curtain until everything was quiet and calm, then emerge and make note of which fish swam away to hide and which came to the glass to investigate the investigators.

              Breed shy with shy and bold with bold and very soon you have two populations that behave either over-cautiously or in an overly risky way. Artificial selection is a cool way to identify the genetic basis of these sorts of traits.

              One conclusion to come from doing this in various model species (even fruit flies have this population level variation in response to new stimulus) is that ‘balancing selection’ seems to maintain populations naturally with about 25% ‘bold’ phenotypes with the remainder taking the careful ‘shy’ approach.

              They have been able to identify some of the genetic basis of these differences in behavior, too.

              So yea it’s very socially determined which neurotypes will prosper.

              As they say,

              If you are poor, you are considered crazy.

              If you are middle class you are neurotic.

              If you are rich, you are just eccentric.

      • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
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        On a good day, sure. Even before the pandemic, absolutely. But it’s so much worse now.

        Many of us have checked out of all but the most headlining headlines, because our media is under siege and pumped full of propaganda and factional nonsense from every extreme group imaginable. Then we have the areas of discourse online that are experiencing censorship, troll farms, automated comment brigades, and more. Finally, actual news, both foreign and domestic, is just really fucking terrifying a lot of the time now. This has all turned into such a tarpit of despair, that one could easily drown in it. We’re missing a lot of actual information because not only is it harder to see for all the noise, but we’re retreating more and more to save our own mental health.

        Edit: some other Lemming on here felt that we’re seeing a war waged in real-time, in the information domain. They may be right.

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          To that edit, absolutely. If we treated targeted disinformation campaigns with the intent of sowing domestic discord as the hostile actions of a foreign government, which they clearly are, then we would view ourselves as at war with at least two major countries right now. Instead we decided to shrug and throw our own disinformation on the pile.

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        She got arrested for a second time. She’s probably going to be arrested a third time too.

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          Under maritime law, she was a victim of kidnapping and piracy, and was never arrested as it happened outside Israel’s territorial waters, where it has no authority to have a blockade.

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            This response is based on the San Remo Manual of International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea.

            If Israel is conducting a lawful blockade, then they can intercept neutrals who have expressed intent to run the blockade. It doesn’t matter whether the events happen in Israel’s territorial waters, international waters, or the territorial waters of Israel’s enemy.

            A blockade is an act of war, and war doesn’t respect territories, and it’s not always respectful to neutrals.

            Now, there is a decent argument that this particular blockade is unlawful for a different reason: it is a collective punishment of Gazan civilians. Collective punishment of civilian populations as a whole was made illegal after WWII.

            Secondly, the blockade is unlawful if its only purpose is to starve the enemy population of food (102). Israel must be getting some proportionate military advantage out of this blockade besides the starvation for it to be lawful.

            And finally, regardless of whether the blockade is legal, Israel has to let the humanitarian supplies pass through (103-104). And I’m not sure they did that. They will say that they let these things through on the (heavily regulated) land route, but the book here doesn’t say that land route is a substitute. Also, they are not using an impartial Protective Power to distribute the aid. This is why they offered to reroute the flotilla’s supplies on to the land channel.

            Note: the rule is they have to let the supplies through, not the people or vessels. If they’re running a legitimate blockade, they can capture neutral vessels that are running it, and they can capture the neutrals on board and subject them to legal process, or maybe even intern them for the duration of conflict

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              Israel presumably says that the purpose of the blockade is to prevent supplies that can be used in war from reaching hamas and that food is taken in.

              We know this is not true but it illustrates the challenge of a legal approach.

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              It’s sad to me that you need to consult the “big book of made-up rules” to argue against Greta being kidnapped by a genocidal colonial state

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      The latest aid flotilla to Palestine that she was taking part in was abducted by Israeli forces in international waters. I’ve seen various comments on her treatment by those Israeli forces but none of them were humane, spanning from forcing her and other victims to sleep in pest-infested conditions to actual physical assault.

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    She wouldn’t even have to grift. Her family is somewhat wealthy if I remember correctly.

    I used to be rather skeptical about her, but she has more than earned my respect time and time again.

    • That Weird Vegan she/her@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Her dad, i think, is a pretty famous Swedish actor, and her mum is a politician, i think. I probably got that wrong, but I know her parents are loaded.

      edit:

      to opera singer Malena Ernman and actor Svante Thunberg.[5][6]

      I was close.

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      Her family probably has enough that she’d never have to work, but not enough that she’d be super comfortable doing so. Half a million dollar house, mildly famous in the arts with a very solidly upper middle class lifestyle, but no emerald mines to inherit in there.

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        😳half a million dollars house is considered a pricey home?!

        Where I live, you find no sub 1 million dollar house…

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    It’s sad that she’s ignorant of US-Ukraine forcing of war, and accepts the neo-liberal/con disinformation in regard of that conflict, but yes, she is admirable in grasping obvious oppression and fighting against it.

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      US-Ukraine? You just know this guy watches Kremlin’s propaganda because only those high IQ creatures say US somehow started it or is forcing the war, meanwhile US hardly pays attention to it, is imploding on itself and no one really knows where Trump stands in this.

      The Schrodinger’s US

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        It is categorically unacceptable to claim Russia has any responsibility in provoking this war. Very shameful and pathethic to be so confident in un/disinformation. Your blind loyalty harms you, and its supremacist roots are as deeply ugly as you claim your political opponents to be.

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          Blind loyalty? Loyalty in what? Bratan, ask me where I was born. It’s quite clear you’re getting paid to post this, but they never offered to pay me, so I’m telling the truth instead

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            blind loyalty to absolute disinformation. If you are implying that your birth place validates your Stalin Derangement Syndrome to entitle you to supremacist diminishment of other nations, then that’s what gets us all killed. It’s not just evil to willfully support demonic lies to diminish Russia, it’s an impotent loser position where if Russia ever transitions to a less patient leadership, it will see the obvious humanist gain of exterminating every one of us worthless demonic supporting losers.

            Both categorically demonic supremacist lies, and categorically stupid loser suicide/self diminishment.

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              Dude, no one is going to invade Russia and no one in west wanted for Russia to invade Ukraine. If you actually took the effort to step out from the information bubble we grow up in, you quickly realize we are the baddies. Literally no one wants to invade Russia, this has always been a lie, Russia is the one that invades, and that is actually how countries end up diminishing. Are you feeling like Russia has gotten stronger and better after invading Ukraine?

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                Literally no one wants to invade Russia

                Same thing is wanting it broken up through, or encouraging its nazi puppet to make pointless terrorist strikes onto infrastructure, and SMO was specifically to not permit a nazi Ukraine to become a US pawn with missile bases near Moscow. When you support drafting EU slaves to go defend nazi Ukraine attack Russia, because reality is based on your/scum’s birth place, it is demonic. Sure it is as absurd to invade then administer Russia, as for Russia to invade Europe. Economically draining.

                Russia has gotten stronger and better after invading Ukraine?

                Russia’s military production has increased substantially, and has past Japan and Germany to become 4th largest economy during this war. They have greater political unity, and high pay/employment throughout. People like you help horrible division in west and sycophancy to an extortionist US empire.

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                  Same thing is wanting it broken up through,

                  No one is going to do that, unless Russia loses a war it started, which is why I said countries diminish when they start wars.

                  encouraging its nazi puppet to make pointless terrorist strikes onto infrastructure

                  US literally banned Ukraine from using their weapons in Russia and they constantly gave a hard time to Ukraine for going behind US backs during first refineries strikes. This is opposite of encouraging.

                  SMO was specifically to not permit a nazi Ukraine to become a US pawn with missile bases near Moscow

                  Baltics are closer. Ukraine would have never joined nato before the war, this is also a lie. They only wanted to join EU, which does not make you part of NATO.

                  When you support drafting EU slaves to go defend nazi Ukraine attack Russia, because reality is based on your/scum’s birth place, it is demonic.

                  And Russia drafts Korean, African, Cuban, etc… I’m not going to use the word slaves because you know damn well they’re volunteers, unlike many in Russia’s foreign forces.

                  Russia’s military production has increased substantially, and has past Japan and Germany to become 4th largest economy during this war. They have greater political unity, and high pay/employment throughout. People like you help horrible division in west and sycophancy to an extortionist US empire.

                  I hate US. Almost all of is do. Why do you keep bringing US into this? They’re irrelevant, they barely even help Ukraine at this point. That being said, when I said “stronger”, I did not mean it in a sense that we’re ready to start another war, but in a sense that I’m not paying for gas like it’s made from gold and the only jobs around are military roles and manufacturing, which is opposite of building a strong economy in the long term. North Korea got stronger, you know?

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        Well obviously it’s Ukraine’s fault. The Russian army was just out innocently stretching their legs, breathing the crisp winter air those years ago at the Ukrainian border. If Ukraine didn’t want to get invaded, it shouldn’t have dressed like that!

        Massive sarcasm, in case it is somehow missed.

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      I’m pretty sure that she does know exactly who is to blame for the invasion of Ukraine, and it is Russia. Russia, and noone else, not even a little bit. Take your ball (consisting of Putin’s propaganda) and go home, noone wants to play with you.

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      Everybody look at this guy, he believes Putin’s propaganda that only morons believe! Look and laugh!

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    Does anybody know how she pays for groceries?

    The fact is, these days you do need to have some money coming in to just survive. Maybe she gets a salary as part of Fridays for future? Maybe she gets personal donations? Maybe she still lives with her parents?

    It’s that need to eat that drives people who have the opportunity into being grifter-celebs because they often don’t see a way to keep doing what they’re doing without finding something that pays the bills.

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      Sweden is generally quite liberal with state support, and she is really young (graduated highschool in 2023) and has a good relationship with her parents. It’s possible she gets some kind of money through her activism, but she certainly doesn’t depend on it to feed herself.

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      It’s that need to eat that drives people who have the opportunity into being grifter-celebs because they often don’t see a way to keep doing what they’re doing without finding something that pays the bills.

      What is it that they’re doing then, though?

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        I’m sure they tell themselves they’re still advocating for the cause they believe in. They can probably justify tailoring the message a bit so that they don’t offend whoever’s paying them. But, they think they’re still more or less on message, and now someone’s helping them get the message out.

        I don’t think most of them go into it thinking “I’m going to sell out now”. I think it’s more of a gradual process where they accept some money they desperately need to lend their credibility to a person or a company that needs help polishing their reputation. Then, over time, they just sell out a little more and a little more.

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      Grifting implies she isn’t doing what she’s doing for a cause, but for personal financial gain. And from all that I’ve seen there’s no reason to think she’s just paying lip-service to her beliefs.

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          Something can be said implicitly without ever stating it plain speech.

          Hunger does not cause greed and ambition, it just drives the desire to eat. It is one’s own choices that determine whether their goals are selfish or selfless.

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          Does anybody know how she pays for groceries?

          It’s that need to eat that drives people who have the opportunity into being grifter-celebs because they often don’t see a way to keep doing what they’re doing without finding something that pays the bills.

          You’re literally saying the need to eat drives people to be grifters. Right after asking how she gets the food on the table. Someone who wants others to think she’s a grifter would use those exact words.

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            You’re literally saying the need to eat drives people to be grifters

            Yes, I’m identifying an issue in the current capitalist-dominated world, where if you want to survive, you need to do something that someone will give you money for. Unfortunately, for a lot of people, grifting is the easiest way to do that. I’m not saying she did it, clearly she didn’t. I’m saying that there has to be pressure for someone like her to do it because you need to eat sometimes.

            Someone who wants others to think she’s a grifter would use those exact words.

            Only an idiot would think that.

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                Only an idiot would be proud of misreading someone else’s words, rather than embarrassed.

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                  At no point did I misread what you wrote. You literally asked how she can pay for groceries. You literally said the need to eat drives people who have opportunity into being grifter-celebs. I merely pointed out how those sentences can be misinterpreted as sometime implying she’s a grifter. Now you could be a normal person and acknowledge that not only can it be misinterpreted but, based on the downvotes, it was misinterpreted, but you’re hellbent on being infallible. So feel free to continue barking back, all it does is prove that you are an idiot who is in complete denial.

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      As someone who was more an activist before my health declined, I’ll answer.

      You don’t.

      You don’t eat, and when you can eat, you do. Food luckily doesn’t cost much if you’re eating only for survival. Shelter is cheaper if you’re always on the move and work together as a community.

      Sometimes I’d do a labor pay job to make a bit more to cover essentials, but ultimately the community is how you survive. You don’t live in luxury, but you survive.

      And not once, not at my poorest of lowest, would I ever fucking take a grifting position. I’d rather starve than do that, and have.

      Of course, years of shit showed me people like Greta is only half the solution. You need the saints out there to help the ones being killed, ostracized, and tortured.

      But that alone won’t ever be enough, and will just be co-opted by those in power to create an illusion that something is being done.

      Violence, specifically very targeted violence, will also be needed. But I don’t think most humans have it in them. We’ve become too pacified by bread and circuses - made so comfortable in poverty and oppression that it doesn’t matter what the atrocities are or what is being done to your fellow person, they’ll just continue as is long term for the most part.

      So much so people like you think it’s fucking acceptable to grift to “eat”. Thievery would be more honerable at this point than that, considering how many of the rich control the food supply anyway. There’s so much we don’t actually need, that we spend on too, because it pacifies the despair, anger, frustration, depression and so on from the state of affairs on earth. I for one say let it flow, because then you might actually do something about it, whether taking the peaceful route or the one of actual justice.

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        So much so people like you think it’s fucking acceptable to grift to “eat”.

        What is it that makes you believe I think it’s acceptable? I think it’s a common outcome because of how society works, but tell me why you think I approve?

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      IDK what’s up with the downvotes, I think that’s a good question.

      Most people her age probably can’t afford to dedicate even just the time required to pull off something like this. And yeah, it doesn’t look like she’s exactly living in luxury out there but you still gotta eat from time to time.

      My best guess is personal donations from people invested in the cause. Apart from the boat, it probably doesn’t even take a huge amount of cash to survive out there. About a grand a month seems fairly realistic.

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      Some people actually have principles and are willing to suffer rather than harm others. Don’t make excuses for grifters.

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          You. “It’s that need to eat that drives people who have the opportunity into being grifter-celebs…” Being a selfish sack of shit is what drives people to take advantage of others.

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            I did not read it as an excuse. They literally pointed it out that greed is creating grifter-celebs.

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    when she made that statement about how she could talk about the abuse she faced but the media should instead focus on the real issue which is the ongoing genocide, i was somehow immediately reminded of someone i never even thought about after i first heard about her: that loser swimmer that tied for fucking 5th or whatever with a trans woman and went on a whole media tour crying about it and is probably still doing it right now if anyone is still listening.

    god bless greta. we need more people like her.

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    She’s really won me over with the second attempt at gaza. It can’t be fun being held hostage by Israel and she put the spot light back on gaza everytime.

    Gaza is where we see the inevitable outcomes of our current global leadership and forcing the world to pay attention to the problems is the only way we can begin to start addressing the problems.

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      Yeah, the first one could’ve been a performative fluke. Going back to do it again is pretty much proof positive she knew it was going to happen and did it anyway. Respect.