• Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.caEnglish
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    13 days ago

    And it got his ass shot. What line are you trying to draw here you insufferable disgrace of a fetid pancake?

  • miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    13 days ago

    Charlie’s only shot at college was to debate new adults with a decade worth of adulthood less than he. He debated with a 10 handicap.

      • shawn1122@sh.itjust.works
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        13 days ago

        Came across a few posts saying he was a compelling debator.

        Saw the post of him debating on school lunches. At one point, in response to being asked if he supports free school lunches, he calls the student stupid and says there is not a single child starving in America.

        If this is what we consider compelling debate we’re cooked.

        • Ashenlux@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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          13 days ago

          Yep. And that’s most of these right wing “debaters” do. They talk fast, with as much authority and confidence they can muster, try to make people feel stupid for not seeing the world the way they see it, and then moving on before they get called out for the bull shit they spew.

        • qarbone@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          13 days ago

          I’ve been seeing clips of Mehdi Hasan giving people a solid drubbing. Would’ve liked seeing him thrash Kirk as well.

    • Botzo@lemmy.world
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      13 days ago

      Charlie’s only shot at college

      Recent circumstances suggest he got one additional shot.

  • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.caEnglish
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    13 days ago

    ah, yes, a shining example

    don’t go to college, because if you don’t, you’ll definitely become a mouthpiece for fascists making millions of dollars until you’re publicly assassinated because somebody got sick of your hateful shit and stopped you from spreading it

  • Thorry@feddit.org
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    13 days ago

    What has ever happened to George to make him so fucking based. It’s as if he was hit with the based stick at some point in his life or something like that.

  • jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works
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    13 days ago

    I had a relative spouting off on Facebook about how Kirk’s death was [somehow] the fault of “liberal universities”.

    I wasn’t involved in this “conversation” because I don’t use Facebook and I try to avoid talking to idiots. But I was told that when questioned, they could not explain which universities are the “liberal” ones, which ones offer courses on how to perform assassinations as part of their curriculum, why the US isn’t just running rampatant with would be assassins, or how they managed to arrive at their fucking stupid conclusion.

  • fort_burp@feddit.nl
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    13 days ago

    Defund American universities? If tuition goes toward funding universities, does that mean… naaaah that’s socialism!

    • suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world
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      13 days ago

      “Don’t feed the trolls” sounds great in theory, and for your own personal sanity it makes sense. Unfortunately ignoring people like this doesn’t make them go away though. Instead, the lack of any pushback to their vitriol and lies just pulls in even more people and makes their message stronger.

      • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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        12 days ago

        Also “don’t feed the trolls” was killed by 4chan’s networked harrasment campaigns, and said 4channers wanted to reinterpret that saying as “leave the internet”, “don’t do the thing we harrassed you over”, etc.

      • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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        13 days ago

        You can push back.

        Just not on their turf.

        If you were in Nazi Germany, would you push back in a forum personally set up by Hilter to make you look like provocateur then cut you off? No. That would be stupid, and even worse, validates the platform with your presence.

        You go somewhere else. And bring people with you.

    • octopus_ink@slrpnk.netOPEnglish
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      13 days ago

      I think George Takei gets a pass. He’s there as a warrior, buddy. (edit ok but not alex cole who is that guy lol, and I forgot that’s George’s bluesky account. I’ll just shut up now. slinks away)

      • BeeegScaaawyCripple@lemmy.world
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        13 days ago

        i’m gonna be honest, i give takei a pass because he’s takei. we’ve all gotten to know him parasocially over the years. i can think of a hundred excuses for him, but honestly he just seems like a righteous dude. he doesn’t need an excuse for where he chooses to online, as long as it’s not stormfront or krasnovsocial he’s cool.

    • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      13 days ago

      Do people not understand ‘don’t feed the trolls’?

      No, and broadly we have to stop expecting better of people. It’s in our instincts to latch onto narratives, either for or against them.

      Instead our task as the better people should have always been to create better narratives, and since this generation of social media warriors all learned how to craft narratives from like, freeform erotic isekai K-pop furry fanfiction roleplay in private discord channels, I am not holding my breath that we’re going to take the stage anytime soon.

      • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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        13 days ago

        create better narratives

        THIS is the fallacy!

        Twitter is not a fair forum, it’s an engagement -> profit engine. It does not show posts fairly. The entire premise of it being a tug of war between narratives like some free speech dream is a fat lie.

        Even if ‘this generation’ were Mensa narrative makers, that’d feed the troll engine all the better, like how I’ve seen people say they stay on Reddit to ‘fight back.’ The only game to play is to the bottom. The only way out is not to play.

        I dunno how to communicate that en masse, but we did it with cigarettes, so it’s not impossible.

        • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          13 days ago

          The only way out is not to play.

          For yourself, yes. If you have realized all of what you said and want a better outcome for yourself, absolutely stop playing, you will have a better life.

          But the vast majority of people are not stopping. The vast majority of people are falling deeper down the slippery sides of the pitcher-plant because this is what we are as a species, we are narrative-seekers, that is my point, we cannot escape.

          Even if you shut it all off and live your best life, the decisions that some asshole in power makes will still impact you at some point, because he read something someone posted once and it changed the way he looks at the story. We don’t get out. We can buy time, but there is no real escape. I’m sorry.

          • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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            13 days ago

            I mean, I think Twitter is more fragile than you think.

            It doesn’t have THAT many participants; statistically, normal people don’t really use it. It’s not that far from losing the public eye and being a self-indulgent (but not publicly influential) zoo kind of like 4chan is.

            • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              13 days ago

              When I refer to the internet narrative-scape, I include everything. Facebook, Reddit, turthscoial or whatever the right-wing ones are, all the way back here to Lemmy. These are the places where the people growing up to make tomorrow’s decisions have their attitudes and beliefs shaped and reshaped.

              I mean, the ones who grow up at least. That seems to be falling out of style.

              • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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                13 days ago

                I think some are less explicitly optimized for political rage-bait though. Facebook is pretty bad, but things like say, Discord or Telegram (popular destinations) are awful in different ways.

                Truth Social will always be niche. I know it’s very ‘year of linux’ but I’m convinced Reddit is near its immolation stage. Lemmy and federated social media won’t be ‘influential’ for a long time, they’re in for the long run.