Put the seat and the lid down before flushing.
I just put the lid down but I still leave the seat up when flushing.
That’s a weird loo. :)
There’s a University of Cork study showing that putting the lid down aerosolises more material so spreads bacteria etc. over the whole room, whereas having the lid open produces a smaller number of larger droplets that nearly all just fall straight back into the toilet. The lid is not sealing the toilet and preventing the need to clean the bathroom.
Can you link that study please?
I can’t get the full text, but https://www.microbiologyresearch.org/content/journal/acmi/10.1099/acmi.fis2019.po0192 has the abstract. It looks like I misremembered its findings (or remembered an article that oversimplified them), though - having the lid down does something to the released particles to make more of them stay airborne for much longer, but it does reduce the number that escape, like you’d expect.
I think I did not understand your comment. Isn’t it the other way around?
No it’s not.
My comment was explicitly pointing out that closing the lid can have the opposite of the intuitive effect and make things worse even though you’d expect it to make them better. It seems that I misrepresented the study’s findings, though, as while closing the lid does make particles remain airborne for much longer, so my overall point is sound, closing the lid does reduce the number of particles that initially become airborne.
closing the lid does reduce the number of particles that initially become airborne.
Significantly – 30-50%.
So to be clear: close the lid
That’s not the conclusion the study’s authors drew. The particles being airborne for longer means they can float further and contaminate things further away from the toilet, and also are more likely to end up inhaled. That could be a bigger problem than the number of particles initially released, so the study didn’t make a recommendation of whether the lid should be up or down. More research is required before anyone should be issuing definitive commands in bold to strangers on the internet.
Be careful what you wish for.
Can people do what they need to do without anybody policing them? Seat up or down who cares?
As a guy please leave it up, when I need to poop I really don’t want to sit on a seat with pee splatter all over. If it’s really unisex I think most women rather put it down than sit on a wet toiletseat.
Why does it matter how it’s left when you’re done? All that matters is lifting it when you pee.
Well yeah, but way too many lazy guys just pee.
Okay, that’s gross. It wouldn’t even occur to me to not lift the seat first.
It really helps to explain all the folks who’re fans of sink peeing, when you think about it.
I have a 5 year old kid that only wants to pee standing but (despite me telling him not to) he never lifts the seat. Unfortunately some guys never seem to grow beyond 5 years old…
Not according to everybody aggressively commenting here!
If men have to put down women have to lift up. Morality is when the same logic is applied to the other side. Otherwise your being sexist and prejudice.
Yes because men can only shit while standing. Are you reading your own bullshit?
Nah but you are if we shit the seat is down. Think before you speak.
So why should women put the seat up if they cant know if youre gonna shit or piss. Why dont you try that thinking before speaking thing yourself for once?
You don’t? That’s a moronic take. We lift we drop we don’t bitch about it. Only a petty fuck would make the seat being pre-prepared for thier specifications an issue. Still haven’t used your brain eh.
I can make it even simpler for you, because you dont seem to get basic logic.
Case 1: Woman uses the bathroom -> the seat is down -> everyone can use it as is. Case 2: Man pisses while standing -> the seat is up -> woman needs to lower it 100%, man only when sitting down next time.
Also thats not even the issue. A toilet seat if fucking filthy. Forcing someone else to touch it just because you are too lazy to lower it yourself after using it for yourself is as selfish as it gets.
I dont think this will get through to you but maybe you can stop and think about it for 10s. Why make life hard fpr other people for your own benefit? Maybe thats your egotistic worldview and you see yourself as an alpha or whatever bs, but if not your take doesnt make any sense.
Dum dum what do you think men do when we lift the toilet seat? Stop thinking about “ew I have to touch the toilet” and just stop policing ppl shitting. Fucking repedocan mindset rules for thee not for me. But you can’t imagine a world where you have to do what others do.
Maybe you like touching toilet seats. Some people dont and I dont see why I should force them to.
Also do you even read what youre writing? “Have to do what others do” equals “have to do something an other person forces me to because of their fucking lazy ass” in your mind? How entitled can you get. Please stop spreading conservative bullshit your manly man grandpa taught you.
No no no. In public restrooms better to leave the seat up so that when people pee standing up the toilet water droplets don’t get on the seat.
I pee standing up in public and know the mess it can cause.
As someone with common sense and a little bit of decency: complaining about being asked to leave the toilet seat down when it benefits everybody is ridiculous
Unless you like sitting on the ceramic with no seat, I guess.
You like sitting on someone’s urine?
Considering how it’s after use, there would be no urine
You lift it up to use it and set it back down afterwards
Edit: to clarify, I am male and stand to pee. I lift the toilet seat and lower it when I’m done.
I never understood the whole “you left the toilet seat up” complaint. Never been an issue in my family but have heard “he never puts the seat down” all the time. Is it that much effort to put the toilet seat down when you need to go?
Edit: Always close the toilet seat cover, not just lowering the toilet seat. This is for both men and women.
When flushing you should absolutely close the lid. Otherwise water droplets from the toilet get flung all over the place.
But then the next person lifts it and discovers your Toblerone of a shit is still proudly sitting there.
Then you open it after flushing to check and potentially clean skidmarks?
its gross, bruh.
If you properly close a toilet seat/lid, everyone has to open it before using it, I don’t see what the big deal is
Also, if it’s not a weird toilet seat that doesn’t have a lid, you should be putting it down to reduce the number of particles that get into the air…
Lastly, toilet water is delicious and it fortifies the bones.
Closing the lid doesn’t reduce the number of particles that get into the air.
Not only does closing the lid do just that, it works the exact way you’d think it would. The lid is not effective at preventing viral spread. Not the only cause for concern when it comes to things exiting the toilet bowl.
A lot of public toilets don’t have a cover.
That not how that works look at the myth busters episode
Umm, the word is “pooticles”
Did you know this isn’t a discussion at all in most of the world? People do whatever and no one is bothered by it. I only ever see this in American media.
It’s not a discussion I’ve ever seen Americans have IRL, only in sitcoms.
I put the lid down, don’t want toilet water splashing all over the place when you flush.
I put the lid up, so I don’t have to raise the lid next time I’m there to piss, which is what I do the most often there.
I put the lid down, too. But only so that the cat doesn’t drink from it.
Soft close toilet seats should be standard equipment.
Then putting the lid down is a matter of a single light push.
Invent a new urinal and demand everyone use a shewee-like thing (for aim purposes). Now everyone can enjoy the satisfaction of peeing standing up and we can get rid of all gendered restrooms.
Now what, maga?
theres also realistic ones for trans men, but I don’t wanna risk getting in trouble
Is peeing standing up something I’m just too intersex to understand? Like even before bottom surgery it was just more easy and convenient to sit down for it
How is having to pull your pants and underwear down and sit down easier and more convenient than just unzipping your fly and peeing standing up?
I mean if you’re at a urinal that’s one thing but if you’re going into a stall you’re already wasting time might as well sit down and take a break, maybe take a smoke while you’re at it
If you feel like sitting down, that makes sense, but it’s not easier and more convenient.
You’re not using the equipment to its full potential!
Toilet seats are fully operational by anyone, (it’s true I checked). How about instead of trying to police everyone you just put it up or down yourself and stfu?
Seeing this sign would ensure I go out of my way to leave it up.
Thats a spicy take. You know the seat being down is more than convenience, right? It’s extremely unhygienic to flush an open toilet let alone the dangers of small children falling in. I recognize a public space is less likely to have a child small enough and unattended to worry significantly about.
We live in a society and all that. Personal responsibility only works if you err on the side of caution. If there is a default setting to a toilet seat and cover it would be down and closed. Otherwise, why put one on at all.
The seat is not what closes a toilet. That’s the lid and it’s not even mentioned on the sign.
I’m a gentleman and so I lowered the seat as my hosts requested. But I also took a picture because it’s funny and weirdly presumptuous.
Manchild take
So, like, peeing into a toilet with the seat down, 100% keeps those tiny little splashes from hitting the tops my bare feet at home. So, when I pee in public toilets, I keep the seat down, to keep the urine off my shoes. I do wipe the seat if I miss, and I also spray if there is disinfectant. But I hear the smart girls squat atop the seat anyway.
Really, places where you don’t have a urinal are sub optimal.
What kind of PSI are you working with?
No idea. I suppose you could estimate with a water hose outlet of similar diameter, put a psi gauge on it, and adjust pressure until the stream travels an appropriate distance, but who cares.
Sounds like factory default to me.
