That sharks are transgender?
I once asked what the shark is about. Their name is Blåhaj and the patron saint of the Blåhaj Zone Lemmy.
See. This is how it’s done.
IRON YOUR DAMN FLAGS PEOPLE!
Why are there no trans flags in any of the ikea stores i went to
Are you in a red state?
Romania hates trans people and is a country so i think yes
Honest question, maybe not the right forum, why do trans people worship/idolise the pink/white/blue flag and dance around it like rats for the piper? It doesn’t define them, it contains pink and blue, two colours that are explicitly used for boys and girls separately. Any explanations other than “you don’t get it?” and “so they can be marketed to separately”?
Why do you huff paint and molest squirrels?
Based on all your fighting with the responses you aren’t asking honest questions here
You do realize the tone of your question comes off as intentionally aggressive and inflammatory, right? It’s akin to saying “so why do you beat your wife/children/significant other?” to people you don’t know.
I’m black (well, a mutt) and I hate the systematic abuses done to any minority or anyone at all really, but I don’t have any black lives matter flags, decals, etc despite my agreement with the movement. It’s kinda disingenuous to ascribe something you’ve seen a few do to a whole group or movement.
Its not even the best gender identity flag. There are some that look so much better
I can maybe explain - blue is traditionally a color that is associated with boys, pink is a color that is traditionally associated with girls, white is a full spectrum color that represents the gender diversity outside those two.
Obviously the idea isn’t to limit people to boxes but making a simple yet commonly understandable sign that representing something as complex as gender identity can be quite tricky so compromises tend to be made.
Also, weren’t you the person that said:
If [marginalized communities] don’t feel comfortable, then more questions need to be asked as to why
So then can I ask why did you think comparing trans people to rats led by a piped piper was the way to engage the community if your goal was to promote understanding and inclusivity?
So then can I ask why did you think comparing trans people to rats led by a piped piper was the way to engage the community if your goal was to promote understanding and inclusivity?
I didn’t compare trans people to rats - only likened their actions of those who dance around this flag. And can you think of a better analogy? Rats are pretty awesome and intelligent creatures by the way. Just because they got some bad publicity over the plague which may or may not have been fake news.
Why would people tell trans people “this is your flag” if not for commercial reasons?
I think the GLBTQ community is unfortunately being very exploited at the moment - with social media being the main driver - not all attention is good attention. I was even listening to Skin from Skunk Anansie say the same the other week (gay black singer) compared to the 90s.
Your words create images and those can be more powerful than the meaning you may or may not intend behind them - so a better analogy would have been something like moths to a flame, which both would fit better the concept of being drawn to something and would have avoided the likening of people with rats that are being led to drown in a river (and rats like trans people are pretty cool and don’t deserve to be killed en masse)
Why would people tell trans people “this is your flag” if not for commercial reasons?
I’d ask in return which people do you think are telling trans people that it’s their flag? The flag was created in the 90s by a trans person and then got picked up by other trans people since they liked it enough.
Still, are there massive issues with rainbow capitalism and the commercialization of everything? (like ikea and the blåhaj in this very post?) Absolutely. And yes in the current climate trans (and generally queer) visibility (as eg. Lily Alexander points out) can indeed be quite dangerous.
Does this mean we should reject any and all “solidarity” from them? I don’t think so, as in I’d much rather capitalists cater to queer folk (even if we know it’s all just bottom line thinking) than not consider us at all - while we collectively stay aware as to why they’re doing it (also as we’ve seen they make really good canaries for when fascists show up and all the pink washing gets bleached)
Also to me it does appear that it’s working - most trans folk I know are against this - sure you’ll still get some that will become brand enjoyers/defenders but you’ll also notice how Lemmy as a left-leaning vocally anti-capitalist space is teeming with LGBTQ people - those are not just coincidences.
So yeah we both agree that there is a pervasive undercurrent that is exploiting queer (and het) people - and had you come in good faith commenting how you think ikea is exploiting the meme and the community to make more money I doubt you’d have gotten the same reception - but the way you phrased it you made it seem like it’s trans people’s fault for being exploited - instead we should focus on capitalism as the root cause and how we come together for the liberation of everyone instead of infighting over whose flag is more commercialized.
You did, and trying to hide behind allusion or allegory makes you seem like an idiot bigot instead of just a bigot
Narrator Voice: “It was not an honest question”
Looks cute. I would assume.
Americans worship/idolize/dance around a flag containing union jack colours like donkeys.
I mean, like any pride flag, it’s a symbol that is used to represent them. People like feeling represented, simple as.
But people can’t (shouldn’t?) be reduced to their chosen gender. That’s just, offensive. All people are super complicated and this was the idea behind the initial pride flag celebrating the many different colours of everyone. That’s the part I just don’t get. Other than for marketing, why have such a narrow meaningless flag?
Why don’t you go ask literally everyone about their country’s flag instead of coming to trans people and calling our flag narrow and meaningless?
So kindly explain why it represents you without being all pissy. And of course, it isn’t “your” flag. You’re just conditioned to think it is.
I’m not trans, but I guess it says blue becomes pink or there’s no colour or pink becomes blue. I think you’re overthinking it. It’s too late to change it now anyway, it’s probably the most recognised pride flag there is. No sense getting stressed over a few colours.
it’s probably the most recognised pride flag there is
It’s called marketing. The trans community is an easy and loyal market.
For flags or plushies? I don’t get why this all makes you object so hard. You seem like you came here to be cross and it’s working.
Because a country’s flag isn’t meaningless nowadays?
So is a pride flag
idk, my city has it’s own flag, and that’s not weird. There’s more trans people in the world than what live in my city, so I don’t see how it’s somehow more narrow and meaningless.
To be devil’s advocate, why not flags for paedophiles, for abusers, for homeless people, for abused women, for abused men, for family of victims of murderers, for any other group of people I could construct and market to? The quantity really is not important.
devil’s advocate
Yup. That’s standing out in your “contributions” to this thread. Whatever is nasty, whatever is offensive, whatever will upset trans people, you’re here to say it.
Why are you grouping all trans people together as if they’re some robot? Why do you think you are the spokesperson for trans people? Both offensive to a large community.
Just shut the fuck up
Loving the projection here.
It seems like you are trolling but here is a bit more feed for the troll then
Actually pedophiles have a flag I don’t know if they identify with it a lot and frankly i don’t care but as digusting as it is It exists
Also asking why do trans people like this flag and them saying what about paedos even as “the devils advocate” is a fucked up thing to ask
Don’t bother responding this is all the feed you will get from me
I don’t actually think it is. I’m not even linking trans people with paedos, so why get so worked up as if I did.
So one of those groups of people have a flag apparently, what about all the others if the point of those arguing for the flag is that a community needs a flag to identify it.
If quantity isn’t important, why bring it up in the first place?
Also, wow, asking ‘if we have trans flags, why not pedo flags’ is super classy. Good job.
Don’t paraphrase to suit your own agenda.
As if you didn’t realise that bringing up pedophilia in a thread about trans people wasn’t incendiary and grossly offensive
Yeah they might be onto something ;-)
“Ihr habt BLÅHAJ zum Symbol gemacht. Wir schwimmen mit Stolz an eurer Seite. Danke, Trans Community!”
“You have made BLÅHAJ a symbol. We swim alongside you with pride. Thank you, Trans Community!”
Pride in Leipzig Germany, 2025
A while back they had a German ad with a closet filled with blåhaj
So, uh, what are the odds of two trans people sleeping together? I’m asking honestly. Seems a really unlikely combo.
T4T for life
Seems like a charged question one already knows the answer to.
Honestly, more common than you’d think. A lot of trans people feel safer and less judged with other trans people than cisgender people
That isn’t the reason. Nor is it because dating is ‘hard’ or any other BS you’ve been lied to about. Women don’t sleep together because uh… they feel safer together than being with men but because they’re gay/bi. That’s just an example of how politically manipulated/shaped you are.
T4T - Trans-for-trans - is very “popular” (if that’s the right word) within the trans community, and ties in somewhere within the spectrum of the gay sexuality. Any other fancy explanation is politically motivated.
uh, I’m trans and bi, so I think I know what I’m talking about lmaoooooo
(disclaimer: I’m a cis guy so take this with a grain of salt) Actually quite likely. Dating is hard for trans people because on one side there’s a lot of bigotry/transphobia/… And on the other side trans people (especially trans women) have been fetishized, so I can imagine that the dating scene does not feel very safe. Combine this with the fact that other trans people tend to understand best what someone who’s trans has lived through and it seems quite natural that trans people often date other trans people.
Mercury Stardust (trans handy ma’m) is married to a NB person, iirc, although I’m not sure if they consider themselves trans.
Look at all those labels in one sentence. It’s as if it’s easy to manipulate and isolate people with labels based on a characteristic.
Feeling isolated because people labeled you an asshole?
I have no idea on the statistics, but would consider this from the perspective of some other groups of individuals that commonly associate with each other. People with common backgrounds and experiences (actors, alcoholics, aristocrats, etc.) tend to be in each other’s company. Coupling among them doesn’t seem uncommon.
…what the fuck is a bedrule?
It’s bedroom, transformed to include the word “rule”, as is the style in this Community.
You just be new here
… How could they not? The blahåj thing has been going on for years lol
you put å in a wrong place haha
Mb, not Swedish :(
apology not accepted, i expect you to show us your new citizenship within the year.
God dammit, I wanted to move to Ireland.
Why is this shark a symbol, because of the same colors?
Seeing all the upvotes, I assume I cracked the code.
Yes. The doll has become a trans symbol.
I know that it is a trans symbol, but I couldn’t find out why. Is there an actual reason or was it just chosen randomly?
From what I can tell, bit of both. It started as a meme on Tumblr, gained popularity because it’s easily available worldwide (wherever there’s an Ikea), and became gay because Tumblr big gay. The colors nicely matching their
socks
::: made it more popular among a certain subset of the community, and now everyone agrees it’s a symbol of trans (support).
I’ve finally learned what blahaj represents. That’s awesome.
