Unmask ICE for National Security!

  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    1 month ago

    It’s simple.

    If law enforcement is anonymous, then anyone anonymous is law enforcement.

    I’ve had security discussions with people who should know better about similar stuff. When someone calls me, I have no idea if it’s you. Caller ID is insanely easy to spoof. I’ve had banks call me and demand I identify myself to them; how about you prove to me that you are who you say you are before I start handing out my personal information?

    Interestingly, they don’t seem to get it. They just go “I’m from xyz bank” yeah… You say that… How do I know you’re not lying? “I’m not lying, I’m calling from xyz bank”

    Dur. We go around a few times with this before they give up.

    I usually call my bank using the number on the back of my card, then ask that person if I was called and why.

    Now you want me to take it… On faith, and the word of the person who is concealing their identity, that they are who they say they are?

    This is the entire fucking reason that LEOs carry badges. It’s so that the public can verify that they’re talking to someone who actually is who they say they are.

    Anything less is just asking for people to impersonate a LEO or ICE agent in this case.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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      That’s piss poor performance from the bank. They obviously need a security audit.

      My bank will sometimes call me if they want something, but it’s always just a voice message telling me to call the number on my card. They don’t even provide the number on the phone message, just to get the idea into people’s heads that they don’t provide phone numbers on the message so if a number starts being provided on the call, it’s immediately suspicious.

      • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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        I told them as much. I spoke to a manager about it once on a call and I’m like, how the hell do I know you’re actually the bank? You’ve given me nothing. Then you’re asking for my uniquely identifying personal information via a voice prompt. Literally anyone could spoof all of this and you’re training your clients to just hand over the information when asked, not even by a person, but by a robocall.

        Yeah, I got another a few months later, same shit.

        I feel bad for the customers of that bank. They’re not my primary bank so I couldn’t give a shit. I’m also security focused enough to know better.

  • Phegan@lemmy.world
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    Using scare tactics like this isn’t effective and it will just further the desire for a police state. Instead of saying “these other bad guys can hurt us”, call out the evil these masked men are doing.

    What ifs, especially ones meant to scare people into action will ultimately reinforce the police state.

    • hexonxonx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      This is the stupidest thing I’ve read today – and I just came from Reddit.

      Not talking about something isn’t going to prevent it from happening.

      They’re already building a police state and it’s happening in front of your eyes. Pretending not to notice is exactly what they want.

    • drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      But the other bad guys have hurt us. Fuck ice, at best i think everyone of those pigs should be facing Nuremberg like trials. But let’s ignore one Groupon terrorists just because they are Islamic.

  • PapstJL4U@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    How interconnected are ice and police?

    Wouldnt it be beneficial when you call the police an all masked robbers, bandits, kidnappers, cars and aggressors?

  • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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    100% MAGA can probably see eye to eye with the left on this expect the left isn’t really making much effort to do that. This post is great. There’s so much great content and examples of the abuse here. But the left’s job right now is to amplify it. But it’s not really happening.

        • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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          As opposed to what? A single post on Reddit? Xitter? Blusky? Facebook?

          How do you know that the OP, and everyone else on this thread didn’t reshare to those places?

          What exactly qualifies as amplification to you? How high of a bar do we need to pass to be good enough for you, your Highness.

          • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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            1 month ago

            Until my grandmother knows. Go outside and see what people are saying. Almost all are right wing views spread by engagement online. There’s a guy on a bridge I pass everyday who still puts banners on it for NWO and COVID. If something is stupid but it works while something smart isn’t working then we should figure out way. Calling everyone dumb isn’t working out for leftist like that thought it would.

  • teslasaur@lemmy.world
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    Sigh… then dress up as an ICE agent then.

    Clearly you’ll get in to the Pentagon and Fort Knox if you just try.

  • vala@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    If this happens it will be blamed on the left/antifa allowing it to happen or helping in some way.

  • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works
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    Easy Solution:

    The new protocol to verify if the agents are legit would be: The ICE agents will all roll up their sleeves to show their white skin. Then shoot the Hispanic/Latino ICE agents because they are obviously Iranian Sleeper Agents. America saved from terrorists once again! 🇺🇸🦅 USA! USA! 👊🇺🇸🔥

    /obvious sarcasm

    • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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      You clearly aren’t ICE, otherwise you would have included the Armenian flag. They are always doing that. 🇱🇷

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        “narrative”? It’s a highly likely possibility and given what a bitch cuck the US is to the “chosen people”, not just frighteningly everywhere, but very likely.

  • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
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    And once that happens they will probably start shooting every suspicious person on sight. Yay, fascism speedrun 100%.

  • IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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    Terrorism? … someone can just rob a bank and get away with it

    The local news would post a picture asking people if they saw someone dressed up like ICE

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      Yes, but that doesn’t concern MAGA. We’ve made that point after multiple robberies and rapes. They don’t seem to care. This, however, should hit home.

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      There’s very little point in robbing a bank unless you desperately need office chairs and stationery.

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    There were rumors that the British SAS would use female burqas as disguises when operating in the Middle East.

    Now every terrorist, criminal, rapist, pedophile, just needs a made at home ICE outfit to do the same in America.

    • oyo@lemmy.zip
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      Sow as in sowing seeds. However since we’re talking about costumes I guess sew works too.

    • mutant_zz@lemmy.world
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      Exactly. If there are major terrorist attacks, Trump will use that to justify more authoritarianism… It’s win/win for him