• Wren@lemmy.worldM
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    My fault for using the wrong term. I didn’t mean pure as in: solitary unto itself. But as people tend to say communism is better than capitalism or what have you-

    They never specify “communism + (other form of government) either.

    My original point is: Communism isn’t automatically good just because capitalism isn’t. And as predicted, the discussion exploded into a series of me defending points I never made, as a result of moved goalposts and rhetoric. (Not from you per-se, but I knew the moment I responded to the original post, I would be defending f stupid shit all day).

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      My original point is: Communism isn’t automatically good just because capitalism isn’t.

      I absolutely did not get that meaning from your comment at the top of this thread, which was:

      No, but It beats communism any day of the week.

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        Every shitty neighborhood has that one house that’s juuuuusst a bit less shitty than the rest.

        But it’s still shitty.

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          Ok, but that seems like a non sequitur. I don’t understand how your metaphor is supposed to help translate “[capitalism] beats communism any day of the week” into “communism isn’t automatically good because capitalism isn’t”. Those are two completely different statements.

          I think it would help me if you connected the dots more when you write things.

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            I was being sarcastic.

            Meaning:

            Person A thinks capitalism sucks because it has traffic, over saturated consumerism, and healthcare for profit.

            Person B thinks that communism has most of those things as well, and makes a point to insinuate that capitalism, while having those problems- is still better than communism when communism has very few examples of actually being any better.

            To further explain-

            Complaining about something while offering little to remedy the complaint is pointless. Therefore, I simply offered a counter argument that was at least productive.