Michigan Muslims sent a huge message to Democrats with how they voted in the Democratic primary, and that message was that they wanted Democrats to stop supporting the genocide in Gaza.
Democrats told them to go fuck themselves.
It’s you who are the morons, and this finger-wagging nonsense needs to stop because you need those votes.
They tried to work through the Democratic Party for change and the Democratic Party spat in their faces. In this scenario, there’s a greater evil (Joe) and a lesser evil (Donald).
It’s not by much, but the ceasefires that have occurred wouldn’t have happened under a Joe Biden or Kamala Harris presidency.
“We’ll show you - we’ll pick the guy who wants the genocide just for the real estate opportunities.”
I’m all for sending a message (and honestly one is more than deserved for the DNC and their role in all this) but this is the definition of cutting off the nose to spite the face
Not on the issue of Gaza. Genocide Joe allowed the genocide to continue until the literal last hour of his presidency, when the ceasefire that Donald brokered took effect.
There is no equivalency here. Donald has a better record on Gaza than Biden. It’s because he wants to exploit the issue for personal gain, true, but the fact stands.
specifically on Gaza, I’m not convinced Trump is worse than Biden II would have been.
Trump (and the RNC in general) have been exploiting American Jews as a pawn in their efforts to destroy academic institutions and purge leftist intellectuals, the way Democrats exploited trans people (until we stopped being politically convenient, then they folded like a house of cards, and predictably abandoned us.) that’s horrible, of course, and the narrative of Gaza is tied up in it, but it’s not actually focused on Gaza - the effects are domestic.
aside from Trump’s inflammatory bluster on Gaza (building casinos and beachfront resorts for billionaires), what has he actually done? he’s negotiated with Hamas directly, and cut Netenyahu out of the loop. Trump has a huge ego, and he doesn’t play well with other world leaders with huge egos, like Netenyahu (or recently, Musk.) so when Netenyahu tried to push him around he told him to pound sand. and - for better or worse - with “America First” foreign policy, it’s increasingly hard to justify giving Israel billions of dollars to prosecute their genocide. I think Biden would have 100% been a pushover.
meanwhile, they wouldn’t even address Gaza during the DNC convention. they were initially going to have a Palestinian-American person speak, but decided “nah” and cut them at the last minute. the DNC smugly decided that us minorities were “in the bag,” and told us shut up, while they pandered to the Neocons. now they’ve lost, and the DNC is toast, and if we ever get a shot at democracy again, whatever rises from the DNC’s ashes will have to actually be Progressive.
And yet, Israel is bulldozing Gaza into the sea. Everyone with half a brain knew that Trump was a pathological lying malignant narcissist who licks the boots of fascist strongmen. He isn’t going to restrain Netanyahu, he’s going to get on his knees and kick his boots while telling Americans that he’s negotiating an end to the war. Remember how he ended to Russian aggression towards Ukraine within 24 hours?
Kinda a fucked up thing to say regarding a genocide you supported and which the majority of people you were targeting (as well as myself) voted against.
Congratulations! You helped to elect a serial rapist, pathological liar, lifelong conman who made it very clear that he was going to allow Netanyahu to ethnically cleanse Gaza so he could build a golf course. Will done! You must be very proud!
I didn’t say that they voted for Trump. I said that they helped to elect him. That’s different but it had exactly the same result. Trump will never, ever, do anything to help the Palestinians. They are going to be wiped of the face of the earth and Gaza paved over to make a Trump resort. Congratulations!
They were getting ethnic cleansing no matter who they voted for. Your candidate was Genocide Joe Biden.
The difference here is that the Democrats insulted them, but of course, you all have learned absolutely nothing from this, and it’s shows some serious cognitive dissonance that you’re ignoring how hard their community worked through established channels to try and change Democratic policy before doing so.
You are a hundred percent correct and history will condemn all these gleefully bloodthirsty shitlibs and their callous racist insistence that a small minority both gave us Trump and deserves to be punished for it
What exactly is the lesson? “You can get us to vote for more of the evil you support if you make us mad enough”? The Overton window is a flat circle?
I really really don’t understand why “if you won’t stop our extermination then we’ll fucking directly vote for it” teaches the DNC any lesson at all except “we can be guilt free collaborators and reap all the benefits”
The lesson is you don’t get to punch people in the face and then complain that you broke your hand.
Also, I think the people on this thread would do well to actually go insult an Arab person to their face and maybe learn a little about their culture while you’re at it.
You’re speculating, but what we know definitively is that there wouldn’t have been a ceasefire if Biden or Harris had been elected. We know this because the only response they ever gave Netanyahu was ‘Yes, Daddy.’ whenever he asked for anything whatsoever.
You’re speculating, too. We don’t know that definitively. They were in an election cycle. Harris may very well have been better for the Gazans of she had been elected.
But, keep self-soothing if it makes you feel better.
Which part wouldn’t have happened, the bulldozing or the casino? Because the bulldozing was already happening and whether they build a casino over the rubble compared to something else doesn’t matter whatsoever.
That’s the the weird thing about a Trump presidency.
Sometimes good things happen for the wrong reasons, which is oddly preferable (at least on this issue) to a Biden presidency, which was 100% genocidal for no good reason. It’s strange living in a world where we’re more likely to get a ceasefire in Gaza because Donald wants to personally profit off of it whereas the Democrats just seem to really, really enjoy feeding weapons to an apartheid.
It’s funny we live in a world where people like you waste so much of their time on the internet arguing a lost cause. Mostly because everyone outside the bubble of bullshit you’re addicted to being a part of isn’t so gullible. Honestly, amd I mean this sincerely. You are dillusional.
It is objectively pointless to have a conversation with you, as the outcome is always decided for you before you even type.
Your comments and every one like them are just the same bullshit white noise being perpetuated by people addicted to their lizard brains chemical reactions to the fear, anger, and hate they’ve buried themselves in.
You’re a literal junkie high on hate, and any conversation with you is pointless because you aren’t even a part of it.
🤣 Michigan Muslims are morons. I love this for them. They deserve what they voted for.
Can you really generalize an entire population with a broad stroke?
I mean, across the broad group, they voted for this.
No, they didn’t.
Michigan Muslims sent a huge message to Democrats with how they voted in the Democratic primary, and that message was that they wanted Democrats to stop supporting the genocide in Gaza.
Democrats told them to go fuck themselves.
It’s you who are the morons, and this finger-wagging nonsense needs to stop because you need those votes.
GOOD THING TRUMP ENDED THE GENOCIDE ON DAY 1.
The depth of your stupidity and gullibility is literally astounding.
I’m not stupid and they’re not stupid.
They tried to work through the Democratic Party for change and the Democratic Party spat in their faces. In this scenario, there’s a greater evil (Joe) and a lesser evil (Donald).
It’s not by much, but the ceasefires that have occurred wouldn’t have happened under a Joe Biden or Kamala Harris presidency.
“We’ll show you - we’ll pick the guy who wants the genocide just for the real estate opportunities.”
I’m all for sending a message (and honestly one is more than deserved for the DNC and their role in all this) but this is the definition of cutting off the nose to spite the face
Not on the issue of Gaza. Genocide Joe allowed the genocide to continue until the literal last hour of his presidency, when the ceasefire that Donald brokered took effect.
There is no equivalency here. Donald has a better record on Gaza than Biden. It’s because he wants to exploit the issue for personal gain, true, but the fact stands.
Beep
You punished the Democrats and got wholesale ethnic cleansing in Gaza and a wide ranging muslim ban. Congratulations. You really showed them.
Two things are true at once:
Yes.
(for the record, I voted for Harris. obviously.)
specifically on Gaza, I’m not convinced Trump is worse than Biden II would have been.
Trump (and the RNC in general) have been exploiting American Jews as a pawn in their efforts to destroy academic institutions and purge leftist intellectuals, the way Democrats exploited trans people (until we stopped being politically convenient, then they folded like a house of cards, and predictably abandoned us.) that’s horrible, of course, and the narrative of Gaza is tied up in it, but it’s not actually focused on Gaza - the effects are domestic.
aside from Trump’s inflammatory bluster on Gaza (building casinos and beachfront resorts for billionaires), what has he actually done? he’s negotiated with Hamas directly, and cut Netenyahu out of the loop. Trump has a huge ego, and he doesn’t play well with other world leaders with huge egos, like Netenyahu (or recently, Musk.) so when Netenyahu tried to push him around he told him to pound sand. and - for better or worse - with “America First” foreign policy, it’s increasingly hard to justify giving Israel billions of dollars to prosecute their genocide. I think Biden would have 100% been a pushover.
meanwhile, they wouldn’t even address Gaza during the DNC convention. they were initially going to have a Palestinian-American person speak, but decided “nah” and cut them at the last minute. the DNC smugly decided that us minorities were “in the bag,” and told us shut up, while they pandered to the Neocons. now they’ve lost, and the DNC is toast, and if we ever get a shot at democracy again, whatever rises from the DNC’s ashes will have to actually be Progressive.
And yet, Israel is bulldozing Gaza into the sea. Everyone with half a brain knew that Trump was a pathological lying malignant narcissist who licks the boots of fascist strongmen. He isn’t going to restrain Netanyahu, he’s going to get on his knees and kick his boots while telling Americans that he’s negotiating an end to the war. Remember how he ended to Russian aggression towards Ukraine within 24 hours?
You can’t “get” something you already had.
Like I said, “Congratulations!”
Kinda a fucked up thing to say regarding a genocide you supported and which the majority of people you were targeting (as well as myself) voted against.
“Congratulations!”
Congratulations! You helped to elect a serial rapist, pathological liar, lifelong conman who made it very clear that he was going to allow Netanyahu to ethnically cleanse Gaza so he could build a golf course. Will done! You must be very proud!
I’m not American.
Huh? No, I/they voted against Harris and Trump, not for them. You seem to have gotten it backwards.
Which is why I said “supported” and not “voted for.”
I didn’t say that they voted for Trump. I said that they helped to elect him. That’s different but it had exactly the same result. Trump will never, ever, do anything to help the Palestinians. They are going to be wiped of the face of the earth and Gaza paved over to make a Trump resort. Congratulations!
Yeah, it’s totally definitely the same as before.
BTW, did you see that cool gold pager trump got?
Dipshit.
They were getting ethnic cleansing no matter who they voted for. Your candidate was Genocide Joe Biden.
The difference here is that the Democrats insulted them, but of course, you all have learned absolutely nothing from this, and it’s shows some serious cognitive dissonance that you’re ignoring how hard their community worked through established channels to try and change Democratic policy before doing so.
You are a hundred percent correct and history will condemn all these gleefully bloodthirsty shitlibs and their callous racist insistence that a small minority both gave us Trump and deserves to be punished for it
What exactly is the lesson? “You can get us to vote for more of the evil you support if you make us mad enough”? The Overton window is a flat circle?
I really really don’t understand why “if you won’t stop our extermination then we’ll fucking directly vote for it” teaches the DNC any lesson at all except “we can be guilt free collaborators and reap all the benefits”
No, because they didn’t, because the post is misinformation.
The lesson is you don’t get to punch people in the face and then complain that you broke your hand.
Also, I think the people on this thread would do well to actually go insult an Arab person to their face and maybe learn a little about their culture while you’re at it.
Like I said, “Congratulations!”
Thank you.
It’s nice to see at least a few ceasefires occur that you and I know would not have materialized under Genocide Joe or Kamala Harris.
Yes. Netanyahu wanted to get some time to rest his soldiers and rearm. Trump obliged.
Maybe, maybe not.
You’re speculating, but what we know definitively is that there wouldn’t have been a ceasefire if Biden or Harris had been elected. We know this because the only response they ever gave Netanyahu was ‘Yes, Daddy.’ whenever he asked for anything whatsoever.
You’re speculating, too. We don’t know that definitively. They were in an election cycle. Harris may very well have been better for the Gazans of she had been elected.
But, keep self-soothing if it makes you feel better.
Well good job on the win I guess?
Good job, indeed.
They’ve gotten a couple of ceasefires that would definitely not have happened under a Biden or Harris presidency.
Don’t forget about the casino Trump wants to build there after bulldozong it! That certainly wouldn’t have happened under a Biden presidency either.
Which part wouldn’t have happened, the bulldozing or the casino? Because the bulldozing was already happening and whether they build a casino over the rubble compared to something else doesn’t matter whatsoever.
Pretty sure you’d care if I built a casino on the mass grave your mother was buried in after I publicly helped dig it.
But hey, she’ll be dead no matter what, so you don’t care right?
I mean, honestly, why are you even trying to use a moral compass when you clearly don’t have one to begin with.
That’s the the weird thing about a Trump presidency.
Sometimes good things happen for the wrong reasons, which is oddly preferable (at least on this issue) to a Biden presidency, which was 100% genocidal for no good reason. It’s strange living in a world where we’re more likely to get a ceasefire in Gaza because Donald wants to personally profit off of it whereas the Democrats just seem to really, really enjoy feeding weapons to an apartheid.
It’s funny we live in a world where people like you waste so much of their time on the internet arguing a lost cause. Mostly because everyone outside the bubble of bullshit you’re addicted to being a part of isn’t so gullible. Honestly, amd I mean this sincerely. You are dillusional.
It is objectively pointless to have a conversation with you, as the outcome is always decided for you before you even type.
Your comments and every one like them are just the same bullshit white noise being perpetuated by people addicted to their lizard brains chemical reactions to the fear, anger, and hate they’ve buried themselves in.
You’re a literal junkie high on hate, and any conversation with you is pointless because you aren’t even a part of it.
We were conservative in our home country, we should be conservative in another. What could possibly go wrong chasing this brilliant ideology?