I’m also pretty sure i’ve seen you in the comments complaining about Houthi rebels and Hamas liberation groups resisting against western imperialism, which to me is a red flag for someone claiming to be anti-imperialism and anti-tankie.
Who knows, but as someone who thinks the US is particularly guilty for war and famine across the globe, even simply ‘supporting’ the war in Ukraine is gross to me.
Of fucking course. Infinite tolerance for ‘flawed’ allies until that ‘flawed’ ally is in any way linked to the dreaded shitlibs. At that point, genocide and imperialism become a matter of ‘bothsides’.
Love that you’ve spent the past half-dozen comments talking about how criticism must be allowed for, even when criticizing groups in the midst of fighting fascism, and now you’re saying being critical of Islamists is a ‘red flag’ for being “anti-imperialism and anti-tankie”
Infinite tolerance for ‘flawed’ allies until that ‘flawed’ ally is in any way linked to the dreaded shitlibs. At that point, genocide and imperialism become a matter of ‘bothsides’.
This is what no-theory does to a motherfucker. There are no ‘good guys’ in the Ukrainian war except the people of Ukraine themselves, only giant and bloated imperial states fighting over imaginary territorial lines with the unwilling sacrifice of working class blood. Tankies might object to that war because they prefer Russia to the west, but I oppose that war because the working class is forced to battle over geopolitical supremacy, and in the end will live as indentured servants to the west. The working class have everything to lose and the least to gain from that war. I have zero problem condemning that whole conflict.
No war but class war, bootlicker.
even when criticizing groups in the midst of fighting fascism, and now you’re saying being critical of Islamists is a ‘red flag’ for being “anti-imperialism and anti-tankie”
I don’t cherry pick which fascist states get to conduct imperialist genocides and which don’t - if the democrats think themselves above criticism for contributing to genocide abroad then they are my enemy, too.
This is what no-theory does to a motherfucker. There are no ‘good guys’ in the Ukrainian war except the people of Ukraine themselves, only giant and bloated imperial states fighting over imaginary territorial lines with the unwilling sacrifice of working class blood. Tankies might object to that war because they prefer Russia to the west, but I oppose that war because the working class is forced to battle over geopolitical supremacy, and in the end will live as indentured servants to the west. The working class have everything to lose and the least to gain from that war. I have zero problem condemning that whole conflict.
No war but class war, bootlicker.
Love that you’re pro-genocide for Ukraine, but anti-genocide in Palestine. I guess Hamas is just more well-read on theory and more deserving of your support.
If i could give out three nobel peace prizes, the first would be to the south african delegation, the second to the doctors in gaza, and the third to the houthis. We might disagree on a lot, but i’ll join hands with anyone to fight for the right to self-determination of any people against any genocide.
Except Ukraine, it would seem.
I wish this was at all surprising, but you’re the perfect caricature of the kind of ‘leftist’ I was talking about. You just needed a little time to drop the mask, it would seem.
Russia can get fucked, but they aren’t a ethno-nationalist settler-colonial project predicated on anti-arab racism dead-set on purging Palestine completely. Only a coward would hide behind Russia in order to avoid condemning the utter depravity of the US and Israel.
FUCK Russia, but FUCK the west too. No states, no masters.
Lmao, you can oppose a genocide without advocating for US involvement, genius
Ah, the “Might makes right” interpretation of world politics, “If they can’t survive without outside help against a much larger enemy, let them die; anything is better than the dreaded Shitlibs™ doing something terrible like offering aid”
I’m sure you would’ve been an opponent of lend-lease in WW2 as well.
Of fucking course. Infinite tolerance for ‘flawed’ allies until that ‘flawed’ ally is in any way linked to the dreaded shitlibs. At that point, genocide and imperialism become a matter of ‘bothsides’.
Love that you’ve spent the past half-dozen comments talking about how criticism must be allowed for, even when criticizing groups in the midst of fighting fascism, and now you’re saying being critical of Islamists is a ‘red flag’ for being “anti-imperialism and anti-tankie”
This is what no-theory does to a motherfucker. There are no ‘good guys’ in the Ukrainian war except the people of Ukraine themselves, only giant and bloated imperial states fighting over imaginary territorial lines with the unwilling sacrifice of working class blood. Tankies might object to that war because they prefer Russia to the west, but I oppose that war because the working class is forced to battle over geopolitical supremacy, and in the end will live as indentured servants to the west. The working class have everything to lose and the least to gain from that war. I have zero problem condemning that whole conflict.
No war but class war, bootlicker.
If i could give out three nobel peace prizes, the first would be to the south african delegation, the second to the doctors in gaza, and the third to the houthis. We might disagree on a lot, but i’ll join hands with anyone to fight for the right to self-determination of any people against any genocide.
I don’t cherry pick which fascist states get to conduct imperialist genocides and which don’t - if the democrats think themselves above criticism for contributing to genocide abroad then they are my enemy, too.
Love that you’re pro-genocide for Ukraine, but anti-genocide in Palestine. I guess Hamas is just more well-read on theory and more deserving of your support.
Except Ukraine, it would seem.
I wish this was at all surprising, but you’re the perfect caricature of the kind of ‘leftist’ I was talking about. You just needed a little time to drop the mask, it would seem.
Russia can get fucked, but they aren’t a ethno-nationalist settler-colonial project predicated on anti-arab racism dead-set on purging Palestine completely. Only a coward would hide behind Russia in order to avoid condemning the utter depravity of the US and Israel.
FUCK Russia, but FUCK the west too. No states, no masters.
At least you’re not larping as a leftist anymore.
Literally did condemn Israel’s genocide and the US for supporting it, but I guess that’s not important when you have Ukrainian genocide to ignore.
“Opposing genocide in Ukraine means you aren’t a leftist”
Yikes.
Lmao, you can oppose a genocide without advocating for US involvement, genius
Ya know, the thing I’m taking away from this entire disagreement is that the one common party in both conflicts is the US.
This is a huge leap of logic, but maybe WE are the problem.
Ah, the “Might makes right” interpretation of world politics, “If they can’t survive without outside help against a much larger enemy, let them die; anything is better than the dreaded Shitlibs™ doing something terrible like offering aid”
I’m sure you would’ve been an opponent of lend-lease in WW2 as well.
I see no problems with comparing Russia to Nazi Germany.