• yesman@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    This is why the right are called reactionaries. This guy doesn’t wanna make music. He wants to oppose the left.

    That is the ideology. There is no through line in conservative thought besides opposition to emancipotory movements. Small government, abortion, guns, religion, tradition, and the family are not values, but ramparts and trenches in the war with the left.

    • LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.eeEnglish
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      8 days ago

      Agreed. Those “values” they pretend to uphold are not the core of the beliefs though. The core of it is white supremacy and patriarchy. Capitalism and Liberal democracy do a good job of maintaining and masking these ideologies. The gial is maintaining those hierarchies. Literally supporting the machine.

  • IninewCrow@lemmy.caEnglish
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    8 days ago

    Most left/social/minority/lower-class/marginalized music and bands developed because they come from a lot of oppression and dispossession from authority and powerful wealthy groups that seek to hold them down.

    Rap and hip-hop was born out of the black US ghettos from young people who were fed up with the poverty and drugs made worse (and sometimes caused) by government and authority and protected by the police. Rock, metal, alternative, grunge were all born out of young people wanting to break away from the modern straight uptight conservative moralistic world everyone was forced or made to feel to take part in. New wave and pop were born out of young people who just wanted to stand out and be heard and in the 80s used it as a vehicle for political messages (especially about constant danger of nuclear armageddon during the Cold War era)

    I’m sure there are angry anxious young men and women from wealthy backgrounds who feel that their freedoms are being taken away … but they will always be completely outnumbered by the millions and billions of poor and near poor people who look at them as the enemy.

  • Snowclone@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    I thought about rewriting a RATM song’s lyrics to parody this dumb ass concept but then I remembered the only successful neo nazi songs are popular songs with racist hateful lyrics, because they’re all uncreative twat waffles.

  • TommySoda@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    The fact that they’d want to make a “Rage Against the Machine” band based off of political views means they missed the idea of “Rage Against the Machine” entirely.

  • lennybird@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    8 days ago

    “yeah hi I’m not conservative but I’m someone who also likes freedom! Not just freedom for me, but freedom for everyone, including those who don’t look and act like me!”

    These don’t seem to undeestand. When you play the song of punk out, it sings that true freedom means solidarity, not conformity.

  • mannycalavera@feddit.uk
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    8 days ago

    Can’t wait to see their set with such time honoured bangers as

    • Know Your Neighbour
    • Suburban Rebellion
    • Go To Sleep
    • Tarrifs In The Name Of
    • Convicted Fellons On Parade
    • People Of The Mar-a-Lago
    • RussiaNow
    • Freedom Radio
    • Preach
    • New Boomer Homes

    And many many more.

    • Redfox8@mander.xyz
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      8 days ago

      Killing in the Name will still be titled the same but with different lyrics “Thank you, I’ll do what you tell me!”

    • andybytes@programming.devEnglish
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      7 days ago

      The world is a global capitalist system and Russia is not our enemy. The liberals are lying to you. But yet, what’s the difference between the United States and Russia really? We’re all ran by oligarchs, and oligarchs are the byproduct of capitalism. So it’s like the pot calling the kettle black. This is why we continue voting for the Neo-liberal party, which is right-wing ideology, which is in the benefit of the capitalist class, and this is why nothing changes. There’s a possibility there’ll be a fake internal revolution inside of the Democratic Party, but it’s just like when companies do a rebranding. Americans are very misinformed and I question if they have any real reading comprehension, or maybe they’re just so self-interested and lazy. I don’t know really. It could be a collection of things. Self-awareness requires you to examine yourself and the world around you and to be honest with yourself. Going and venturing into the dark alleys of reality. So now, we are no longer focusing on soft power and we’re headed towards hot war. You might not like Trump, but he’s just a continuation of the so-called deep state. The man just makes decisions off papers that are handed to him. He is not an intellectual genius nor does he know anything about world history or other cultures. Biden is also an illiterate self-absorbed jackass. And what comes after that is either some variation of the two or either or. Regardless, Justice is always served, just not in your benefit and in your time. Thank God all men die.

  • taiyang@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    I enjoy how much of a struggle everyone in the comments is having to think of a single decent conservative rock band, let alone one like RatM. If you understand people attracted to authortarianism, it makes sense; they prefer simple over nuanced, they tend to be more likely to conform, etc, it’s quite obvious that their values run contrary to art.

    That said, conservative rock bands do exist, even if their songs aren’t. They just aren’t generally artistic or thought provoking. Smash Mouth came to mind (they shilled for Bush back in the day) and All Star is still played on the radio. I’d bet if you dug around, you’d probably find more of those 90s pop rock folks orient right.

    Although even trying to think of annoying 90s songs led me down a weird rabbit hole. Like, you know that song “Two Princes” by Spin Doctors? Turns out one Spin Doctor is a major atheist activist. So who knows?

    • scbasteve7@lemm.ee
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      8 days ago

      Smashmouth is an odd one. Cause their songs are oddly… libertarian? Maybe? But every now and then a pretty ignorant lyrics slips through and it’s like “what’s going on here?”.

      Walking on the sun is a pretty good one. Literally saying, “The government sucks, fight back, youve done it before and deserve praise for it.”. And then the last verse is criticizing presumably black neighborhoods for falling into the crack epidemic.

      • taiyang@lemmy.world
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        8 days ago

        Yeah, and I don’t know where they stand now or if they were all on board with right wing. I know the lead died recently, though. Looking is up, he moved to Idaho, which is kind of what a lot of libertarian Californians do in retirement, lol.

        • Soggy@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          7 days ago

          Of note, they had already distanced themselves from Steve Harwell (lead vocal) for being a giant shithead and uncontrollable alcoholic.

  • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
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    8 days ago

    Can’t you see, you’re not making the right better, you’re just making rock and roll worse!