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I have earbuds that don’t need to be charged and use a cable for easy connectivity and sound quality.
The lost technology of the ancients is most glorious.
Both have their pros and cons. I miss my Westone 1 IEMs that I had back in college. My buddy’s dog chewed them up. They were comfortable and super light, had great sound quality, a cord that wasn’t obnoxious. Not having a cord is great though too especially when I’m working. Multipoint connection is great too. I can be listening to stuff on my phone with it in my pocket, no cable getting in the way, and when I get a call on Teams, my Pixel Buds just switch over to the computer.
You know what’s easier than a cable? No cable.
I’ll give you sound quality, but the whole reason that wireless earbuds took off is the hassle of wires.
Horrid quality and batteries are rarely replaceable. Pointless.
I guess if I listened to crappy music I wouldn’t care about the sound quality.
Ooh, BUUURN! BUUUUUUUUUURN!!!
The reason wireless earbuds took off is that phones with headphone jacks stopped getting made.
Consumers didn’t prefer wireless earbuds. They preferred thinner and more water-resistant phones.I personally switched to wireless back when my phone still had a headphone jack. It’s just the better overall experience for me, and I suspect that I’m not alone in that. I’m going to continue arguing for manufacturers to keep including a headphone jack, but it’s not because I prefer wired headphones personally.
Lol, people downvoting you like they weren’t manipulated into spending 10x as much for a product that can’t be repaired, all in the name of profit.
you do realize cheap phones exist, right? and second hand ones, and phone repair shops exist.
Apple has gone out of their way to make it near impossible or impractical to repair their phones. I’m not spending my time making a list you’re not going to read. If you’re actually interested in learning, seek out Louis Rossmann on YouTube. Here’s just videos JUST Apple https://www.youtube.com/@rossmanngroup/search?query=Apple
You know how many people I know that have a cheap phone. One. Do you think my nieces and nephew would “settle” for cheap phones in grade school… LOL no. And if you’re like “Well it’s the parents…blah blah blah” then you’ve completely clocked out on the 8 hour bully sessions kids can receive, so don’t start.
You vastly underestimate Apples marketing and influence. I’ve argued with so many people that “well I like my AirPods” despite the fact phones UNTIL Apple killed the 3.5mm jack, had Bluetooth audio. The entire reason to remove the jack was to push sales of over priced e-waste.
Don’t @ me with this “you do realize” BS.
I feel like I’d forget to charge them. Or drop them in a public place and not want to put them in my ears because I’m a germaphobe. I know someone who dropped theirs in a toilet.
Yeah, it’s a risk. But, there’s also a risk of getting your wired earbuds cord caught on something. I’ve had that happen and it yanked the phone off the table and sent it crashing to the floor. I’ve also had the buds get yanked out of my ears multiple times.
If I lived somewhere where winters were mild, I might still use wired headphones. When you only have to worry about a t-shirt or something managing the cord isn’t too bad. But, when you have to manage a hat, scarf, coat, etc. there are just too many things to get in the way of the cord.
Then don’t get them lol
We’d love to, but manufacturers keep trying to force them down our throats. And when we express a different prererence or use case a bunch of trolls feel the need to pop out of the woodwork and tell us that no, we’re actually wrong and our use cases don’t actually exist.
How about you all don’t worry about what headphones other people wre using?
I’m not? They’re listing all the reasons they don’t want them, so I’m saying the answer is easy. I personally prefer wire headphones, butI do have Bluetooth ones because they have their use case. I don’t understand why everyone’s so purist in the first place. They’re all tools, use what you need for the job
We’d love to, but manufacturers keep trying to force them down our throats.
…that’s not where they’re supposed to go…
THATS WHAT I SAID IN THE PARENT POST LOLLLLLLLLLL11??!01
Just strange to me that you’re going on about it but not a big deal
I feel like I’d forget to charge them
I thought that to but turned out to be a non-issue. Since most earbuds come in a case that holds multiple full charges for the earbuds themselves, and the case begins to complain about low battery early enough, even if I forget the first one or two times I notice the low battery state I’ve so far never run into a situation where I wanted to use them as had no charge left
No, what did it was removing headphone jacks and selling only crappy non-repairable headphones.
Fight! Fight! Fight!
And also no latency. Even expensive Bluetooth headphones and earbuds have crap latency. The systems that don’t are either proprietary and not widely supported (e.g. aptX) or expensive 'phones-and-dongle arrangements that must always travel in a pair and still don’t compete on latency with a pair of dollar store earbuds.
Unless you’re using them for gaming or some other interactive medium, latency doesn’t really matter though. For music, latency is irrelevant and for video, your device will take care of syncing the audio and video playback so it’s a non issue. Audio quality is an entirely different matter of course.
Your video player “can” account for latency if you configure it correctly which I imagine the majority of people don’t do, and simply put up with it. Ditto with your music playback always lagging 1-2 seconds behind your control inputs. I have never used a media player on any platform that automatically figured out audio latency. Maybe the iDevices do if you pair them with Airpods, I don’t know; I don’t own anything Apple and I never will.
It also matters for music production, and makes life a lot more pleasant for audio/video editing. Plus, latency is just annoying in any setting.
If you have 1-2 seconds of audio delay with bluetooth, something is wrong. SBC bluetooth audio has like 200ms max.
Which is noticable if you make an effort, but for non-interactive media, it’s negligible imo.
Yes indeed, Apple’s had acceptable latency (e.g. for YouTube) since no later than 2017.
I’ve only thought about it when specifically wondering how they pulled it off (and I assumed the phone did something slightly fancy to add a delay on the visual side)
Glad you’ve never paid their tax in any case!
I don’t know about iPhone, but I’ve notice a cool trick that my Android uses is, immediately upon unpausing a video, it will play and jump the video to the point it will need to be to sync the audio, so while you may skip a few frames initially, you do receive immediate visual feedback rather than seeing a frozen frame while waiting for the audio delay.
Your video player “can” account for latency if you configure it correctly which I imagine the majority of people don’t do.
Windows and Android do this automatically out of the box, don’t know about other platforms.
Ditto with your music playback always lagging 1-2 seconds behind your control inputs.
Since music isn’t an interactive medium, this doesn’t really matter (also the latency is more like 100 to 500 ms depending on a variety of factors)
It also matters for music production, and makes life a lot more pleasant for audio/video editing
Well of course, if you’re doing that A) this is not an application for wireless audio solutions so…uh…duh and B) you’re probably not on a phone if you take it seriously? 😅
There’s nothing to configure with modern android and Windows devices, it just works from my experience. Watching a video on YouTube or on the native media players at least you get a fraction of a second where it’s out of sync and then it pauses the video for whatever time necessary to get back in sync, and no issues from there on out.
The only instances where I notice it doesn’t work are games and video editing software, but yeah, those are just not use cases where wireless audio is appropriate
not widely supported (e.g. aptX)
I can find over 600 aptX capable headphones as well as over 850 phones, also any laptop I ever had supported it (Linux though, so probably not always “official” lol).
Low latency is a thing, you can get this as low as ~30-50ms either through aptX LL / Adaptive, whatever the manufacturer apps do or by manually meddling with the settings for SBC. Will get rather unstable though since you effectively get rid of the buffer. Really depends on your usecase what you prefer. Personally I love having ANC headphones that support bluetooth but also got a headphone jack in cases where I sit in trains, buses or planes for hours and want to play some games or listen to music with a DAC.
Almost always Bluetooth for me.
Might plug into the car to get higher quality audio. Will use a cable with a mic at home, but even then I might use AirPods for listening and only use the cable to speak into.
It stands to reason there can’t be that many audiophiles who could tell the difference between Bluetooth and aux while listening to their little Spotify playlists, but oh boy-
So many more people can tell when you’re speaking over spanking-new $200 AirPods versus the old dinky pair of stock EarPods from the bottom of the junk drawer. Cable reins supreme, no competition. (and with the best dictation software, simply whispering into the hardwired mic is sufficient for ~95(+)% accuracy)
If you’re listening to podcasts or music, latency doesn’t really matter.
You really think that’s a dunk? “Wireless” just means you plug it in when not in use. There’s nothing hard about plugging in a 3.5mm audio jack. I’ve never been sufficiently convinced to actually use wireless headphones. They seem like more of a hassle for a worse listing experience.
what universe do you live in? wireless is obviously more convenient since you just put the buds in your ears and click play, with wires you have to also put in the wire and you have a physical cable that can get caught on things or get in the way.
just get a pair of cheapo wireless earbuds and genuinely try using them, you’ll most likely realize that it is actually way more convenient and that actually you just wanted to be a reverse hipster.
Wireless means you plug it in occasionally, maybe once a week.
If you don’t value the convenience of wireless headphones, that’s great for you. For a lot of people, the cable is a real pain in the ass. It gets tangled up when it’s off. It gets caught up on things when it’s on, etc.
I definitely have to give it to wireless sets, they are really convenient. I’m clumsy and it’s nice not having to be aware of the cable. (The sudden yank out of my ears… Aaaaaaargh.)
But I’m also forgetful (I don’t always remember to charge it…) and I have a low tolerance for connection problems so I do prefer wired in some scenarios.
I don’t get some people’s obsession with hating on wireless earbuds and headsets.
Omg you people are some literal dinosaurus rex. New bad
I finally went wireless a week ago. I realized their advantage when the cable on my headphones broke for a millionth time.
I don’t remember what did it for me, I switched a while ago. But, I do clearly remember one time when I had the kind of moulded earphones that go really deep in your ear, and I caught the cable on something, and they got yanked out of my ears. That was pretty painful.
You know what’s easier than no cable? Not losing your ear buds
Haven’t been able to use ear buds outside of the house ever since they got rid of the jack
I’ve never lost one in at least a decade of using them. But, I don’t use the kind that just balance on the edge of your ear.
Oh brother, are you the CEO of earbuds or something?
Why are you so deep in your own bubble that you don’t believe that someone could simply prefer wireless? If that’s the case, you should get out more, meet more people, expand your horizons.
No you’re just replying to everyone which is a little weird
That’s neat
My earbuds are connected to a bt receiver that functions as a (not great, but okay) dac via usb too. Pro is that I can use the receiver with all my headphones, con is that it looks like an iPod shuffle gen 3
I really dont get cable simping here on Lemmy. It’s awful UX and yall can’t hear the sound difference anyway lmao
Depends on the earphone. But majority wouldn’t care.
TWS is hands down more intuitive.
Everyone paying 299$ for inear buds with a display case
Apple patents all sorts of weird shit. 99% of it never gets made. They just want the money from patent litigation and licensing.
There’s already an earphone with a display on the case like jbl, Tru wireless…Now if there was storage for music on them that would be nice.
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The rendering is, but the patent isn’t.
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It’s almost a shame that they decided to go with wide instead of tall.
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I mean, this wouldn’t be all that stupid imo. Add some Apple watch functionality like fitness detection and easy syncing between phone and iPod Nano Buds, this would be a solid addition to a runner’s arsenal leaving no need to carry your $1000 phone on a run. Suppose you could use your watch for that and leave the case at home though. But more options aren’t a bad thing, not everyone has or wants a watch.
You are right, but I also think you missed the point of the post. This is basically an iPod nano from 2005 with a few extra features.
Also a few less features given I’m guessing it can’t store its own music and needs to be paired with the phone.
leaving no need to carry your $1000 phone on a run.
my brother in christ it’s called an MP3 player.
Yeah, precisely. That’s what this would be, built into your headphone case. You never have one without the other.
right, then what if you could sync any bluetooth headphones to the case? mind blown
edit : or if it had a 3.5mm jack, so you could use wired headphones too? amazing. in fact, what if it also took AA batteries for emergencies?
can they even patent that? its already a thing that made it to production on at least one brand that sells in north america and another two or more in china
I was gonna say, pretty sure I’ve seen something like this on Amazon already, except from some weird Chinese company.
Chinese != Weird
can they even patent that?
What “that”? They can patent a specific technical solution that is unique to their product, not the idea per se.
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To an extent it is. Apple is or has started the patent for this. The image is just rendered for a visual representation of what they are doing, and for us to see they are reinventing old tech.
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I think JBL did it and they’re a well established brand
There’s not gonna be any storage on it, though at that point there could be.
I think the purpose of it would be to control the device the headphones are connected to, rather than be the source of the media
Don’t the headphones already do that?
My guess would be that you could control things like playlist, shuffle, etc. Like a smartwatch interface but only for music.
Right, so it’s not really an iPod Nano.
But… My earpieces already have 2 touch zones and multiple press combinations.
so its basically an over-engineered version of this thing
But you see, that one has wires. We aren’t supposed to like wires.
This is the first apple device I would willingly buy.
You could also just get a Tangara
I was mostly intrigued with the idea of having the wireless bud case be the music player, which would mean carrying the headphones in their case would be the only thing I need to carry if I want music.
In retrospect, this is probably just a remote screen for the phone it’s connected to.
As someone who carries a set of wired earbuds “just in case” I get that
exactly. The number of times I’ve had my buds but not my phone is embarrassing.
I’m surprised nobody has done yet as I’ve seen all sorts of features be added to earphone cases. Maybe a decent touchscreen is not yet cheap enough to throw at some case without the profit margin of the apple brand.
They have done it. There’s lots of Chinese earbuds with screens. Even JBL did it.
My coworker bought an ear bud case that he can play flappy bird on.
I mean, IF they also add internal storage for mp3 files and it would act as an oldschool mp3-player/ipod, that would be actually cool … but I don’t need another display … you already have one on your phone and maybe also on your wrist
Great, now people will buy a case to protect their case.
Oh wait, they already do
I did not know there were that many options. I knew they have cases because I’ve seen Erik try to sell some raycon travel case using code BIGMONEYSALVIA.
Waiting for the airpod triple case to show up.
For the fancier aftermarket case cases, it really is prudent.
Thanks. I hate it.
Absolutely revolutionary creams in pants I have never before witnessed this level of utter genius before in my entire 30 some odd years of existence. I was right in front of us checks notes this entire time and we were blinded by our own hubris.
TLDR; Nature finds a way.
If this ever got released, it would probably require constant phoning home and cost $400. Separately.
just wait for the generic quasi-unbranded (you know, like “denver”) version, which will cost $60 and work better than apple’s version, just with the downside that it’ll look boring and cheap
people are going to lose and break these and it will cost than so much
New air pods can’t be paired to them.
That’s why the next generation earphones will be wired.
