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Ugh, we learned nothing.
Lots of circumstances are thankfully different.
Oh fuck off, Germany ended where it was because of the great depression. What you mentioned are just aggravating factors. Take that Nazi propaganda elsewhere
But, to your other point, USA projects so much power, they could invade virtually anywhere and get away with it. Look at Iraq.
My bet is a test run on Cuba, because “Guantanamo is getting too small”. Then maybe a chunk of Mexico.
I woke up the other day and thought, “What if Putin launched a nuclear war on the US? And the current administration knew beforehand but did nothing other than leave the country in advance of the bombs making impact?”
Twenties gonna twenty.
We didn’t even make it the full decade. We did the whole pandemic thing but just passed on a new Jazz age with interesting new music and style, said no thanks to the libertine philosophy, and decided to fast forward 5 years and let this dusty old turd and his lame wrecking crew of Christian nationalists and the least intelligent pack of nerds that has ever existed, nose dive us right into the fucking ground.
There’s no way this motherfucker couldn’t just hire somebody to do the tariffs math right. He literally had all the money to hire the most talented people bc he’s just been stealing it from us constantly. Instead he and his crew are such cheap little shit stains that they decided to just have AI handle it and fuck it all up as always. And now their big master plan is to dump whatever fucking money is left into more AI!?! Because they still don’t fucking comprehend that’s not the God damn solution to everything!?!
Fuck I hate these dumb fucks so God damn much
God, I bet all of history’s previous dictators are just shaking their heads while they burn in hell because this guy is such a fucking joke.
There’s no way this motherfucker couldn’t just hire somebody to do the tariffs math right.
They couldn’t hire someone to do the tariff math ‘right’ because there is no ‘right’ math to do.
Fair point. Just to be clear though, I don’t say “right” in support of tarriffs, I say, right in terms of not accidentally multiplying the damage by 4x the original plan.
Although, now you got me thinking maybe the 4x worse damage wasn’t even an accident.
There’s a bioscience company with some really shady gov ties that was one of the only vaccine manufacturers that didn’t completely tank in the stock market last week when FDA cuts were announced.
Over the last year their stock has been going down, but last week, it was up a little compared to companies like Moderna and Pfizer. Not by much, but it seemed weird the company actually announced a buy back of their own stock.
It would be interesting to know if the majority of shares were bought back before or after the giant crash. If it was before the crash, that would mean the company would be kind of fucked over by their own buy back. If the majority of shares were bought after the crash, that would be an odd choice but I guess if they mysteriously make a recovery it would be a win.
We did all the libertining in the 90s and 00s. They were pretty wild.
And you could argue that the overall permissiveness of society is a part of what the reactionary conservatives are violently railing against.
I just meant in terms of repeating the 1920s, we skipped all the cool shit they did and jumped straight into the depression. I guess the wealthy though still get their hedonism similar to the 20s
Also, I think it depends on where you were raised in the 90s/2000s. I grew up in the deep south going to a southern Baptist church, so the reactionary attitude while being a complete hypocrite behind closed doors is nothing new to me.
Probably also why it makes me so reactionary to the reactionaries. Like I cannot accept the shit that I finally escaped from is now trying to take over the globe, and some people actually think maybe it won’t be so bad/maybe they can reason with it if they fall in line.
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
– George Santayana,
The Life of Reason, 1905. From the series Great Ideas of Western Man.
“This is not good! Worlds are colliding! George is getting upset!”
-George Costanza
Seinfeld “The Pool Guy” - Season 7, Episode 8 (1995)
History doesn’t repeat but it sure as shit rhymes.
Battles never end, they just get hushed up. Dystopian tactics; throw a blanket over it and pretend it doesn’t exist because society is perfect for the rich and the powerful.
And they continue to forget it’s all a numbers game and we outnumber them by a magnitude. Tl’dr they’re fucked.
But that’s where complacency and escapism becomes a large tool against the numbers. Its much too hard to get up and revolt when their favorite show is going to be on at 8 or X streaming service got a new movie. Only a fraction get up to protest when the rest sit back back and mumble under their breaths to their screens.
We need a major fuckup to get them off their couches, you know, something like policing the internet, or crashing the market and causing disgusting inflation rates. Oh wait. Its a shame that we’ve waited until things got this bad.
People are the worst. Agriculture was a mistake. If I have a time machine I’d go back and kick that fucker tiktaalik back into the ocean.
I’m sure you’re joking, but actually I’m reading a very interesting book about this topic called “The Dawn of Everything: A New History of Humanity.”
It’s really concerned with freedom, and disputes the idea that the lack thereof is inherently tied to agriculture.
Agriculture made more humans. More humans is always trouble.
(But it is a really incredible book, as are all of Graeber’s work. If you like it you should read Debt: The First 5,000 Years)
Agree. People were so concerned about 1984 that they didn’t see Brave New World creeping up on us.
How you crack the complacency is beyond me.
Cracking the code is:
if (complacency > annoyances) { sleep(); } else { riot(); }
Capitalism leads to imperialism and fascist. Fascists are the useful idiots of empire. A collective suicide in a exponential function. It will end the human race and most life on earth…
Now that Trump is sinking us on education and science, China will have or maybe already has the superior military, tech wise. They will be able to pop over and take resources. They’ve surveilled, remember the balloons? Not high tech per se, but if you consider the means as a camouflage on immediate threat and a +10 to hide in plain sight it makes more sense.
Remember. China stopped selling chips to our defense contractors right after Trump, this time around. Why?
Many of the things Trump is doing that are making headlines right now are helping tank the military. I know, we want shrinkage on what we dole out to defense contractors. That’s not this. What Trump is doing is lowering the quality by reducing tech and the education to pull from to run, develop, and innovate that tech. China never stopped working on those things.
Consider the world game here. Climate change is here and that makes the new long game a resource consolidation to try to be last country standing as things crumble. Resource consolidation IS why Trump is going on about Greenland and Canada.
And they stopped selling us rare earth minerals. We won’t even be able to build anything more complex than a toaster
https://www.reuters.com/world/china-hits-back-us-tariffs-with-rare-earth-export-controls-2025-04-04/
Edit: source
Time to crank up Nano-C research, like transistors, resistors, semiconductors made from graphene, carbon nanotubes.
Don’t forget the eldritch horror.
Any day now, Elon will announce that the real reason they need
GreenlandUltima Thule is so he can perform a ritual to awaken Azathoth and end the simulation.It’s going to take the young to fight the fascists in America. Hope they are ready.
After learning about the term ‘puriteens’ I’m not sure the youngest Americans will want to.
I give it a year tops before the beginning of civil war 2.0
I’ll give it a year tops before the beginning of the World War III.
I’ll take that bet! Because I’m not big on online presence depending where you are if you’re in the GTA and the world is on fire more than it currently is I owe you a beer.
Nice, I hope I’m going to lose. I live in Russians neighborhood, so we will see if I’m able to get that beer.
Hope they are ready.
They young or the fascists? Because the fascists don’t look to be in much shape for a proper beating.
The fascists are fat fucks. This is well know.
Young white men seem to be one of the biggest demographics for trump supporters. It’s not just the old.
A shit ton of those Caucasians are overweight. Sadly that’s just the state of our health nationally. I went back to power lifting and am getting to my three plate goal for benching. I haven’t lifted this much in decades. But I’m still big bellied. So I have work to do to get ready. But I do expect there to be a need to be in shape soon enough.
When you’re talking military age, obesity is extremely lower than say anybody 30+
Have you read the military reports on how limited the population pool is for healthy and passable individuals? There’s a concern there isn’t enough healthy fighting age males.
I haven’t. Is it a function of willing able bodied men being lacking, or is it talking about a draft?
The 1920’s was also started with the type of weird kind-of-flu epidemique.
They had some years of crazy partying between end of ww1/the spanish flu ine the late 1910d and the great depression and fascism really got hold in the end of the 1920S tho, so couldnt we at least get some of those years first?:(
The poor weren’t at those crazy parties, they were organizing and fighting for workers rights. The rich are in fact having crazy parties right now, if my rich Snapchat friends are anything to go by.
Do you ask me? I don’t decide (^_-)
Nah, it won’t be the same.
100 years ago we didn’t have ecological collapse.
America was about to have the Dust Bowl and China a drought that caused a massive famine, so we definitely had some localised ecological collapse
or nuclear weapons
Time’s a flat circle
…and here comes the 40s
the world wars were basically two halves of the same conflict, the only real difference between the two was the whole Russian Revolution that brought a third communist faction into the mix,
and dont kid yourselves, The Soviet Union was a co-belligerent of the Allies, not a part of them. you aren’t allied with someone when you’re formally at war with them until the mid1920s, watch them kick off a war by partnering with nazi germany, and then have a little ceasefire for 4-5 years between 1941 and 45 when nazi germany betrayed them. and go back to pointing guns at them
Russia sees itself as “other” to the rest of Europe, for those who dont read history, you need only visit a news site to see how that is still the case today
My dad is a child of the 40’s. He’s the quietest, most thoughtful and loving man. Bring on the 40’s.
This is all joke and fun until you realize we are heading towards the 30s
but that also means we will live to see the 40s, and the current nazis hanging upside down.
Unless we’re on the Star Trek timeline in which case WW3 starts next year and runs for 30 years.
At least we skipped a world war 1 part deux.
and we totally passed up girls wearing flapper dresses…
You’re just not hanging out with the right women.
probably 😭
being middle aged and married, i need that shit to be in the open!
I’m 52, married and up until a few years ago I did dance nights regularly. Charleston, swing, salsa, tango, etc with women half my age was a regular thing. It doesn’t have to be weird if you don’t make it weird. They were lovely and we had a blast.
PS: Dancing (Ballroom, hip hop, etc) is a great way to make sure you don’t lose mobility with age. Once you hit ~45 keeping, your mobility starts to be an constant effort.
sadly I have two left feet… I hear you though. I love to people watch and attractive young ladies are attractive but I’m not asking for anything other than enjoying that moment
Go take dance classes. All it takes is practice
We might get there early
Yeah, but shit was so bad we elected FDR who put in motion the things we coasted off of up till about the 80s when we forgot what it was like without that stuff.
Like, trump might be making things happen faster than scheduled. But I’d rather have AOC in 2029 than 2033…
It doesn’t matter if we think accelerationism was the dumbest gamble in history, it’s already happened.
Its like before but this time with robots
It’s like before but this time you have to subscribe.
Don’t worry, those of us left are going to see marvelous things once we hit the 60s.
World War 3 to begin in 2039
i’m worried that might be awfully on-spot.
The “limits of growth” study has the following diagram:
after having thought about it for a few months, i do definitely see population rates declining in the future due to low birth rates and a worsening economic situation (lower wages, widespread unemployment, …) but i don’t think a war would be a necessary consequence. it could be just barely avoided if wisdom prevails.
Russia invaded Crimea in 2014. Think about that one.
sooner. this play-through is a speedrun
Yeah but this time we’re doing a faster and ahead of schedule.
Let’s just hope there’s a new FDR to come with it. Sure would love to see that one.
Yeah but this time we’re doing a faster and ahead of schedule.
Efficiency!
Considering FDR threw 100,000 American citizens into concentration camps because of their race, I think we’ve already got one
Well, AOC is often only referred to by her initials
I wish AOC could be the new FDR
Every head in the room turns to watch the monkey’s paw curl
Oh no, does that mean shes going to intern Japanese people and be extremely racist?
Now with climate change!
The decade metaphor might fail here but let me tell you it’s five past twelve
i’d personally say it’s at least ten past twelve but whatever
But didn’t we have climate change back then? The Dust Bowl…?
Oh yes, it’s going to be just like that, except much worse!
