• kandoh@reddthat.com
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    6 hours ago

    What we miss is the analog version of the internet. The easier video became the worse it got.

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      5 hours ago

      Every corner of the world is in a way suffering from war, corruption, or civil unrest, not just “The West”

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    9 hours ago

    Infinite scroll is suited for current events putting negative pressures against content creation. Content creation became an economy. Commoditization of content sucked the life out of it all.

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    10 hours ago

    And before that it was developed together with the military. It seems we’ve gone full circle.

    • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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      The military helped develop the technology, but they run their own “Internet” networks that are completely segregated and independent from the public Internet.

      They helped with protocols and standards and such more than anything else. Military interest in Internet technologies relates to the ability to have redundant, interconnected sites so that if one site goes dark for any reason, the other sites don’t lose their connection to eachother as a result. Obviously this world help with keeping the military operating and orders flowing in the event of an international incident where some of their sites are taken down or otherwise disabled.

      The public Internet, while following similar models, isn’t nearly as decentralized as you may expect. Almost all of the connectivity and data is warehoused in datacenters at, or near Internet exchange locations, or "IX"es. IXes and their locations are not secret and taking out a few IX sites is a good military tactic to disrupt communications, at least for the civilians in a country, which would create significant issues trying to keep everyone calm and safe. Almost all telecommunications today are Internet based, regardless of all other factors. The only somewhat decentralized civilian communication technology is radio, specifically broadcast radio (like FM), but even getting a message to an emergency broadcast FM station would be a challenge if the Internet was disabled, taking out phones (both cellular and landline), and all data communication. The only way to get an emergency message to an emergency broadcast station in that circumstance, would be to physically send someone there with a military communications system (generally two way radio), to relay the messages for broadcast to the public. There’s enough FM stations and emergency broadcast stations that effectively disabling all of them is strategically difficult.

      All of your communications, whether landline, cellular or Internet is basically all routed through your local IX before it can go anywhere; so if that goes down, you can kiss all of your methods of communication goodbye, unless, of course, you’re a qualified amateur radio operator (or HAM).

      Ham radio has a bit of an image problem as an obsolete hobby, but it really isn’t. There’s continual efforts to develop new and interesting wireless technology to run on the radio bands. Hams also have a network of repeaters and radio relays that can be brought online in geographically diverse locations for the purposes of enabling communication when commercial networks (like cellphones) become unavailable. Hams have saved lives and relayed critical information to and from first responders in natural disasters like hurricanes and tornados when all other communications have been disrupted.

      But if you don’t know how to use a radio, like a ham radio, then even having the gear is useless. The best way to understand enough to be competent in using a radio when it matters is to get certified. Unless you have, or seek that certification before there’s a major incident, natural or otherwise, you may be shit out of luck when it happens.

  • neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    10 hours ago

    Not just a tool for monitoring, but a tool for propaganda delivery and indoctrination for anyone with a message and cash to burn.

    Proper journalism costs money and requires focused attention to consume and metabolize. Propaganda is shiny, sweet, goes down easy and it’s always free.

  • Lembot_0001@lemm.ee
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    12 hours ago

    I remember times before cat videos. Times when even porn was scarce on the Internet. Those were the times of technical discussions. Without crazy religious fanatics, without rabid political idiots, without degeneratively stupid kids.

    Those were the times…

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        9 hours ago

        I remember asking this in a Discord server (ugh) a couple of years ago. The response? “Can you please refrain from asking such personal questions in this server.”

        I miss the old days. Also fuck Discord.

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            10 hours ago

            Can you write with words? Google suggests only something sex-related on this abbreviation/formula/whatever. No, I won’t have sex with you.

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              9 hours ago

              Not knowing the ASL prompt casts some doubt on your claim to remember the internet back then. Knowing someone’s age, sex and location was some useful context even if dating wasn’t the aim.

              • Lembot_0001@lemm.ee
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                So that ASL is just a question about how old I am and where I live? Why not ask this straightforwardly especially after I claimed that I don’t understand the question?

                English isn’t my first language. Not even a second one. You can’t expect me to know all the slang/abbreviations/etc.

                I’m 40. From Eastern Europe.

                Knowing someone’s age, sex and location was some useful context even if dating wasn’t the aim.

                It wasn’t.

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                  ASL was extremely useful. We only had usernames, no profile pictures or anything else. ASL is what you asked if you were chatting on quakenet or another server. Most of the time you knew the regulars on your channel. Often mods would ask your ASL and if it turned out later you were lying then you’d get kicked or muted.

  • N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    12 hours ago

    It’s sad to think about the optimism people used to have for the internet vs. what it turned into.

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      I think maybe back then we all knew it was going to become a corporate ad-ridden tracking nightmare in some capacity. That is why we remember it so fondly perhaps. Places like lemmy/wikis and the odd ole phpbb forum still running still give off at least a bit of the old internet vibe.