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lol but seriously this is the first time I’m not buying a Nintendo console on launch in a long time. Their prices here in Canada were already absurd but this gen is just unreal.
Could be worse, you could be here in the US and get to pay an idiot fascist tax on top of it!
The sad thing is: This would work.
Mario? Screw that guy. I’d tip for Luigi, though.
I choose not to play
The 15 is typically an 18.
15%? 20% is the new minimum suggested tip nowadays
0% is gaining favor
I really don’t understand the anti Nintendo thing. They want money? So do all game companies. They sue people pirating? So do the others. They are all corporations, none are your friends. The weirdest thing is the steam people who are convinced that THEIR corporation and THEIR billionaire Gabe is the only good billionaire on earth. He’s not.
I will keep giving money to companies that select good policies and praxis. It is alarming that it only happens when companies are young and that they turn into multi national demonic entities when they grow past a certain level for some reason, but at that point we can only sigh and but a rubber band around the growth and start cutting off the oxygen supply so we can saw it off
The force streamers and people who cover Nintendo to pay them, because word of mouth isn’t enough. They need money.
They have and continue to directly or aid in the effort to patten basic game mechanics.
They refuse to participate in cross play functionality often.
They kill fan projects because fuck you for liking our games and bringing more attention to them I guess.
They lock games away forever, not rereleasing and killing mods aggressively. Actively killing gaming history.
A company doesn’t have to be my friend. But when they are actively attacking people who express love for their product you eventually stop loving the product.
It’s not that they want money, Nintendo is mainly anticonsumerist, but they’re also a terrible, evil company. Here’s a couple examples why i think so off the top of my head:
- Locked down hardware. Well, at least they try to lock it down as much as possible.
- Insane prices for hardware and games. (50 quid for base Animal Crossing fucked me off when I realised that the DLC costs 50 quid fucking more, i returned my Switch).
- Shitty customer service (look up joy con drift)
- Lawsuits left and right:
- DMCA to strike down FOSS emulators because they included a 16 byte decryption key that’s literally public knowledge at this point. Funnily enough, they use a similar FOSS emulator in their own products.
- Sued the small company that owns Pal World because they included some of their “patents”. We all know that’s bullshit.
- Sued a journalist for writing for a blog about piracy and fucked his life despite him having no involvement in any of the development. (he was forced to take a deal to avoid them making things worse.)
- Sued a guy who did in fact enable piracy. That’s fair. Taking 30% of his income for the rest of his life is fucking evil.
- Fucked over streamers playing the game on release day because they were in an earlier timezome than japan…
- Fucked over creators playing their games with an emulator.
- Fucked over creators on all platforms in general for literally no reason.
- Took down many MANY fan projects because they could.
- They got mad at event organisers and pulled out last minute because the organisers used a mod to allow internet multiplayer, which caused the official Smash tourney to be cancelled during covid…
meanwhile Valve:
- makes the hardware as open as possible:
- also literally wrote proton
- also feel free to use any input device to play games
- also your game console is a fully functional computer you can do whatever the fuck you want with.
- also, your screen broke? Here, let me help you fix it.
- charges reasonable amounts:
- 30% from the developer is industry standard
- has frequent sales
- orange box costs like a quid on sale and the lastest halflife costs about 20 on sale.
- you can “return” games if you don’t like them.
- first class customer service.
- got a guy arrested for hacking and leaking their source code, which is fair.
- allows and enourages modding.
- massive supporter and contributor of tournaments of their games
- allows the use of their IPs in transformative ways (3rd party games, sfm, etc).
but yeah. They’re clealy the same thing. no differences whatsoever.
also literally wrote proton
It’s getting weird how often I find myself saying this… But Valve mostly took already existing software and built a wrapper around it, integrated into their platform. I love what they did, but the credit for literally writing it goes to all the people who spent years building wine and related software.
since 2016, valve has been paying for wine development. They didn’t just nab it.
Also, calling proton a wrapper is a bit ingenuous. Proton is basically wine with upstream patches that wine will not accept. It’s not a wrapper for wine and related software.
I’m pretty sure it is a wrapper in the way it looks up game-specific information to apply specific tweaks to how the game is ran and how the prefix is set up… But it is also true that it does also include a modified version of wine, so the terminology is difficult to pin down.
That said, I don’t mean it in a disingenuous way, at least I don’t think it is such. I do believe valve is often attributed excessive credit for proton’s creation, but I don’t think they did anything wrong, much less “just nab it”. Open-source is open-source, and I’d imagine people who put work towards making wine viable are happy that Valve brought it to the mainstream.
By evil company standards that’s pretty benign
Like Hershey uses slave labor, Chiquita helped transport weapons for paramilitary groups, nestle well we have all heard about what nestle does.
Just about everything you listed that they do can be summed up as they vehemently protect their IP that while they are overkill they just aren’t even close to other video game companies like blizzard who protect sexual harassers
you’re right about other companies being worse, but that doesn’t make it ok for nintendo to do what it’s doing. They 100% deserve the hate that they get, which was my point really.
Thje problem is more that they tend to get WAY MORE hate for way less stuff.
Like, blizzard literally had a woman commit suicide because she thought she was going to be used as a company sex slave. Yet Nintendo gets more shit than blizzard does, because Nintendo doesn’t want you pirating their games.
Like, bruh, priorities. I know it’s not a zero sum game, but god damn.
It’s the way they go after fan projects like rom hacks, the way they continuously rerelease 30 year old gameswith minor tweaks for full price, their obsession with destroying emulators, the fact that all of their IP is exclusive to their console, their games rarely go on sale, and their prices are far too high considering their hardware is like 3 generations behind the curve.
They been selling a TON of overpriced garbage as of late
It’s their level of aggression towards fan projects that sets them apart I think.
Yeah. Valve’s 30% cut is greed. So is their (alleged) anticompetitive behavior of forcing price parity with other stores (aka devs can’t price things cheaper than Steam elsewhere).
I mean, I like their store. I like most of their behavior, but I am also waiting for the hammer to drop, and everyone should.
Blasphemy!
I wouldn’t dream of sending a tip to Nintendo or any other large company, but I did send a tip to SureAI (game devs, nothing to do with the bullshit we’re currently calling ‘AI’) after playing Enderal. One of the best games I’ve ever played, zero ads or microtransaction BS, completely free. It was literally just a passion project by an indie dev crew. $60, cuz it’s as good as any AAA game I’ve played. They earned the fuck out of every cent.
BRING ME A NICE CRISP PIECE OF MEAT!
Thanks for making me aware of Enderal. It looks absolutely awesome.
I’ll try it out and if it’s half as good as you say, I’ll tip them twice what I paid for Skyrim (which won’t be $60 but I’ve never paid that much for a game).I’m REALLY jealous of you right now. That first play through hits fucking hard.
I made the full sales pitch for it a while back, so here’s a copy-paste of that. As far as donating to them now, afaik SureAI is still operating to some extent, but the folks who made Enderal have moved on to larger studios. You’d still be supporting devs, but not necessarily the ones who prompted the tip in the first place.
Anyway…
Official page here: https://sureai.net/games/enderal/
Original Skyrim version: https://store.steampowered.com/app/933480/Enderal_Forgotten_Stories/
2016 Skyrim re-release “special edition” version: https://store.steampowered.com/app/976620/Enderal_Forgotten_Stories_Special_Edition/
You’ll need whichever version corresponds with the version of Skyrim you own. If you own both, I’d recommend choosing the version of Enderal that goes with the version of Skyrim that you play the least - because it uses Skyrim ’s assets, switching back and forth has been known to corrupt saves, so back up any Skyrim saves you care about.
Anywho, Enderal is set in its own universe - it looks and kind of feels like Skyrim because it’s built from the same blocks, but has nothing to do with the Elder Scrolls, or Tamriel, etc (barring a few easter eggs). New lore, new characters, new terrain, new music, new voice acting.
The company that made it is “SureAI” - indie dev crew that has nothing to do with AI. /shrug. It’s a predominately German studio, and while Enderal is available in English, iirc the English version is voice acted mostly by German native speakers who happen to know English as a second language. Reason for mentioning that is: be gentle in your judgment of the voice acting, lol. Along the main quest line, it’s pretty much all rock solid; some of the side quests and random NPCs… not so much. And the children NPC voice acting is fucking awful. The console command “TAI” (after targeting an entity) can be used to shut up an annoying NPC without breaking it - just TAI it again if you happen to need to interact with it for a quest or something later.
Speaking of the command console - don’t be afraid to use the command console!! Again, this game is built on Skyrim’s engine/assets, so it comes with all of Skyrim’s problems - e.g., step on a basket full of cabbage; get launched into low orbit. Things like quest items falling through the floor n’ shit can happen, so you may need to use the console to force a quest to progress or some shit - also save frequently, same reason. From a technical standpoint, some of the shit they do with Skyrim’s engine is mindblowing, but it definitely pushes that engine to its limits in terms of stability.
Not much of a sales pitch so far lol. The good stuff though: Enderal’s story is pretty wild. There isn’t really a traditional antagonist - instead it tackles concepts ranging from philosophical to religious to emotions / repressed emotions… this game WILL get under your skin, but in a really artistic kind of way. Very much a passion project by the devs.
Combat and skills are completely redone. It’s not like Skyrim where you can just shoot icicles up a mudcrab’s ass until your destruction level is 100. It plays kinda like an oldschool RPG where killing shit gives you overall-level xp, but raising skills requires skillbooks that you’ll need to find or buy. Also the things that were OP in Skyrim are no longer so - try the sneaky archer build in Enderal and you’ll get your ass handed to you in pretty much every encounter. I recall having a lot of fun with the 2H sword path; and the magic ‘schools’ are mostly redone (like iirc there’s a school of ‘Entropy’ that an entire talent tree dedicated to dark lifesteal type spells, and stronger attacks that use HP instead of mana) so read through the options, cuz a lot of them will be totally new.
Even with all the combat tweaks though, it plays pretty familiar to Skyrim, just don’t lean too heavily into Skyrim’s combat tricks.
The story though, and the way they tell it… holy shit. If you’re a bookworm, you know when you finish the last page of a REALLY good book, and then get hit by that kind of empty feeling as it sinks in that the ride is over, and you want more but know there’s nothing left? I’ve played a fuckton of videogames, and only ONE has ever hit me with that at its conclusion: and yup, it’s Enderal.
It’s a slow start, and there’s some jankiness in general like the occasional shit voice acting and technical instability, but if you can look passed that shit (and I mean, keep in the back of your mind that it’s a FREE passion project from an indie dev crew with no real budget), then this game will go down as one of your all time favorites.
As long as there’s no micro transactions then yeah that makes sense pay a premium for premium games cuz Nintendo makes really good games. My problem is that they almost never have sales when they do they’re like 10% off if that and the price never goes down for their older games or they don’t even sell their order games that’s the issue
There’s at least one die hard Nintendo fan out there that’s gonna custom tip $100+ because being a Nintendo fan is their personality. Nintendo should be selling them special loyalty edition consoles for $10k or something and give the rest of us a break.
The loyalty edition is just a standard console with a sticker on it.
I mean this is a shit post but like Nintendo isn’t really the “tip” type of company or microtransactions type of company.
They’re the milking the shit out of their franchises and keeping premium prices on their games type of company.
Yeah they Japanese. Tipping is seen as an insult over in Japan.
Oh they see it as an insult? Good.
Selling a tech demo on top of the astronomical cost of the system. Jesus
Eh, it’s more that it’s just not in the culture. Most people would just decline it rather than be offended.
Gamers on Lemmy don’t even know why they’re mad at Nintendo honestly
A community, forged by a shared desire to see software and technology be free, open, and driven by passion.
With members who usually find their way here fleeing the profit driven enshittification that so often stifles this pursuit.
And for some unknown reason, they are mad at a company that pursues aggressive litigation against free and open passion projects that were the very embodiment of the community’s shared values…
Well that’s just a fucking mystery if I’ve ever seen one!
Don’t forget, you see way less Nintendo gaming videos and streamers. Because they are greedy and want a cut of what is made. They’re not happy with the good word of mouth, they NEED to get paid.
Also look at this shit with PalWorld. Working to retroactively patten very basic game mechanics because a franchise that refused to evolve got beat by the new kids.
Watch them patent pressing w to move forward
No W on a Nintendo controller
90% sure this guy is baiting
can’t believe i wasted my time explaining myself to this brainlet.
When Mario Galaxy dropped as the Wii’s launch title in 2007, it cost $50. Adjust for inflation, and that comes out to $77 in 2025. Why tf are people clutching their pearls over the price? Why are people acting like Covid and inflation didn’t happen? Nintendo is staying right in that same price range it always has. The bitching and whining needs to stop.
Now adjust our salaries to inflation please because they’re lagging behind.
This is up to you, to be frank. You have to apply to jobs, negotiate and haggle. Your current employer will never give you a raise unless you have an offer from somewhere else, and even then they often won’t out of some weird principle. You gotta do a bit of job hopping
Why are all you poors mad that things you could afford before have increased their prices to match inflation while your wages haven’t?
How I’m reading your comment, btw
So tired of seeing the same “inflation!!” BS trotted out, as if buying power has remained the same. It hasn’t, at all.
I agree with your point, but not a fan of the inflammatory delivery.
Wages have stayed stagnant during that time, so it might not have gotten much more expensive in comparison to other stuff, it has gotten more expensive compared to what we have left over after paying for necessities.
Amazing. They actually made the PS5 Pro look like a good deal.
You know this isn’t real right?
The 80$ MSRP for the game is real though
