So billionaires can take daddy’s money but not the poors? Got it.
Did they actually cut it off?
Yeah, I am not doubting that this happened, because in the mix of callousness and incompetence on display, it isn’t unlikely. But a source would be much appreciated, still.
We don’t need sources, we just go off vibes
they tell a thousand lies in the time it takes to fact check one. We tell one lie, and suddenly every complaint we’ve ever held against them is invalidated because we’re liars.
I think it’s obvious how absurd this is.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen this said better. I’ll be quoting you.
wish i could take credit for it, stole the quote from a reddit comment from a few years ago. I’m sure the guy i stole it from stole it from someone else.
That’s cool. I’ll re-gift it, then. Thanks!
Here’s a Snopes review of what I think is the same specific topic.
It mentions nothing about these being orphan support payments, but rather, these being possibly incorrectly typed SSNs that resulted in their recordkeeping systems assuming, based on the information tied to those SSNs, that the borrowers were, say, 11 years old, when in actuality they were not, and the SSNs had just been inputted incorrectly, even if all other borrower information was accurate.
They also didn’t stop these funds, as they were already given out. They’re simply “reviewing” them.
Please, Smithers, who are they going to complain to? Their parents?
I’m sure he’ll be super bummed about it whenever he wakes up from his latest k-nap.
I’m getting sick and tired of updating my The Ballad of the Techno-Prophet: A Decade of Deception
Thanks for making it national news, major national media. Good work.
Who knew musk is a pos…I knew…Elon musk and Donald Trump are destroying America’s image and it ability to be a world power
Literal supervillainy.
Some orphans will take matters into their own hand
Caucescu 2: Electric Boogaloo
Need to see a better source than a tweet that I can’t find.
I can’t find any sources or reporting on this. Not to say it’s not happening but can’t even find some dumb Musk tweet about this
You should try other places on the ‘internet’ instead of ‘enough musk spam’ to make you wiser.
I’m really interested to see any reputable articles confirming this. Google searches didn’t show anything, 1 press conference on Reddit, 1 instagram post
It’s stopping direct loans applications by people under 18, nothing about actual payments. When are dumb fucks going to learn Tweets aren’t sources?
I’m so glad the leftist plan to beat the right is be as completely critically illiterate as they are. Just cede the movement to the maniacs now because once the conspiracy theorists take root it’s a short stroll to leftist QAnon
I’m also interested in verifying this. Unfortunately, the article you linked to references young people getting sba loans not social security payments. It then repeats old news about very old people getting social security benefits.
I agree 100%. We need to move past believing things just because they got our world view.
Whatever gets shitlibs to help storm the Capitol, but in a based way
https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/03/how-jeff-bezos-made-peace-with-donald-trump/
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/24/g-s1-29665/la-times-editor-resigns-presidential-endorsement
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/22/nx-s1-5161480/trump-media-threats-abc-cbs-60-minutes-journalists
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/media/cbs-news-trump-60-minutes-legal-threat/index.html
You’re going to see a lot of news stories falling through the cracks in our modern Trump-friendly media landscape.
For those experiencing the same confusion as myself: those are not sources for the orphan/survivor benefits story, they’re possible reasons why the media might not be reporting the story.
Hanlon is currently using his razor for other purposes.
Hanlon’s Razor has never applied to fascists.
Yeah, but your fact totally ruins my joke.
It was a good joke.
aw shucks. you’re so sweet
Aw, you too. ( ˘ ³˘)♥︎
At SOME point persistent, weaponized incompetence has to be attributed to callousness or evil.
are we all idiots then? because all i see is a bunch of scholars talking about how wrong this all is.
Scholars are irrelevant. It’s the question of “Is Elon evil, or incompetent?”
At a certain point we have to assume evil as his mistakes are continuous and on going
we’re on the same page, so i hope i don’t come off as disrailing. i’m just shooting the shit.
i should have said ‘celebrities’ rather than ‘scholars’. scholars are actually screaming their lungs out right now.
and there’s no question. tt’s not incompetence. the guy owns a fucking rocket company.
but falling down a bunch of stairs is a lot more razor-friendly than being pushed, so i’ve now taken to practicing old pagan rituals to invoke time and gravity.
I am just trying to give engagement :) Lemmy needs more activity and it starts with us dumbasses.
I never took what you said as hostile; I feel your comment was worth responding to.
I just wish the media would quit enabling by pretending any of this is normal or accidental…
Maybe pagan rituals are the answer… we really need some [redacted]
oester is coming up, and i hear the christians love bunnies and eggs but can’t quite explain why…
yeah, we’re totally on the same page. i find myself almost wanting to disagree with you on something (edit: :P)
Only a complete buffoon would give another buffoon raw unchecked power like this. God damn this is the lowest point in US history.
Yo dawg, I heard you like buffoons…
Xzibit.gif
how much time do you think Xzibit spent on how to spell his name? Is the “z” really necessary? Was it a design decision?
I feel like there is a slight chance of some seeing Xibit and pronouncing it zibit (like xerxes)
zz-zzibit
Lowest point in US history so far
Talking about Odious Lusting After Fortunes
The money THEOR PARENTS PAID INTO AND WORKED TOWARDS. They are literally entitled to it. It is their parent money!!!
Your daily reminder that Elon musk, the richest man on earth, called the poor “parasites”.
The richest man on earth who receives tens of billions in taxpayer money, government incentives, and tax breaks to build cars and blow up rockets over the Caribbean. He is a fucking parasite setting our/NASA money on fire. (In addition to straight up getting money from government he also gets money routed through NASA contracts)
The ultimate parasite.
It’s actually great, I figure out their language. They speak “Projection”, it’s a language where everything they say is a confession of sorts.
They constantly accuse others of corruption, pedophilia, and other awful things and are utterly convinced they’re right. They’re convinced, because the people they surround themselves with are filled with corrupt, awful, pedophiles, so that means EVERYONE must secretly be a corrupt, awful, pedophile. After all, if that WASN’T the case, that would mean they aligned themselves with, or are themselves, inhuman monsters; and no one is the villain of their own story. That’s why when they accuse people of such heinous things, they aren’t lying, they 100% believe what they’re saying. Because if they didn’t, that would be admitting to themselves what evil pieces of shit they actually are.
I think it’s sub-conscious self-hatred projected onto others. They are fractured, damaged people, that, from an early age were told that their vulnerabilities were weaknesses. Their inability to accept themselves as they are causes them to wreak havoc on the world searching for enough tangible reasons so that they finally can. But it’s never enough, because no amount of outer wealth will fill the void of inner poverty.
tldr: these people hate themselves
If my disabled ass can ever get the energy and motivation to go to a protest I want to have a sign that compares what I receive in a year with SSDI, Medicaid, and HUD housing to what just Elon receives in federal money for his businesses. Now who’s the parasite?
Are you bringing back stranded astronauts from the ISS? Did you lead several highly successful companies that played a major role in helping with the energy transition when virtually no others were doing it at this scale?
Do tankies suddenly like Musk? How is your .ml account not banned for supporting the most bourgeois man on earth? They ban people for saying trust Russia sucks and not this drivel?
Read some real journalism for a change Musk didn’t do shit. He didn’t start PayPal, he didn’t start Tesla, spaceX has a whole layer of management DEDICATED to keeping him out of screwing anything up, and I don’t think I need to add anything about X.
I never thought anyone could be so blatantly wrong on every topic, but .ml account keep teaching me lessons on the topic.
I am relatively new to Lemmy and don’t know much about the different instances leaning.
I do not support Musk. I am well aware of his businesses endeavors and I merely acknowledge his positive impact as much as his negative one.
How does that boot polish taste?
How does it feel to live a life full of hatred?
1 month old account. Over 430 posts. Seemingly all of them simping hard for Elon Musk.
What’s most terrifying is that they’re probably not even a paid shill. Chances are they’re either a troll or equally likely - cognitively captured, like millions of others, spewing repeatedly debunked falsehoods at every corner in a perpetual show of one-upmanship. And ultimately - trapped in a vicious circle of lies.
This is the world they are building. This is the lobotomized reality that awaits all of us if we don’t figure out a way to build a sustainable, high-quality information environment.
You have some severe lack of reading comprehension if you assert that all my posts are dumping hard for Elon Musk. It’s ironic that you go on to insult me after that, instead of you know… discussing the facts of the matter.
People like you are actually not interested in discussing the facts because you take everyone who doesn’t share your opinion from very high, are incapable of examining your own opinions and just resort to name calling.
Our opinion is that we hate nazis and that you like them. Do you like nazis is the question you should be asking yourself.
You are the person that says, “Hitler wasn’t that bad. He did a lot of good, like building the autobahn.”
This is you.
It fucking sucks, you’re right. But if you don’t hate Musk you’re a traitor.
You might benefit from doing some meditation and yoga.
Are you a heartless monster unable of empathy, who never realised other people might be people, too?
Don’t feed the trolls
It’s funny because feeding the troll only works if there’s an algorithm. We don’t have that here.
Why don’t you ask this question to the commenter above who is calling other people parasites?
He said leon, the richest man on earth, called the poor parasites. And he believes that. Anything we get, food, a new phone, a nice day at the beach. We are taking them from him. He believes life is a zero sum game. I have so much empathy that I pity him.
He called him a parasite too.
Amen, preach. These paid actors on social media are getting out of hand!!!
Are you bringing back stranded astronauts from the ISS?
Is Elon?
Did you lead several highly successful companies that played a major role in helping with the energy transition when virtually no others were doing it at this scale?
Did Elon? He knows how to market himself, and to pick competent employees. But is he leading and playing a major role, or is that just hype?
Yes to all questions.
Can you back up that opinion with facts?
Elon’s company SpaceX has brought back the two stranded astronauts from the ISS just a week or two ago, easy to find news articles about this.
Elon has founded SpaceX and lead it to the success it has today. It has also bought Tesla at a very early stage and lead it to the company it is today. Part of these successes is hiring the right people, taking risks and investing ungodly amounts of money when nobody else dared to. His wife even left him because he invested nearly all of the money from the PayPal IPO payout.
Having said all of that, there is definitely some hype around Tesla as its valuation in the stock market is not objectively rational, it’s more of a meme stock at this point; but that doesn’t change fact that it is one of the US companies that did the most to encourage the adoption of electric vehicles in the US.
No one could convince me a bot didn’t write that.
His wife even left him because he invested nearly all of the money from the PayPal IPO payout.
No, he was the one who filed for divorce, to propose to a woman 13 years younger than his first wife (he at 37 wanted to trade his 36 year old wife for a 23 year old wife). From papers served to his then-current wife to having a 23 year old fiancee was about 6 weeks.
Generally speaking, Musk’s business success is marked by being in the right place and the right time with someone else making the actual substantive calls about exactly how the business is run. When he gets opinionated and have businesses yield to his specific desires, it tends to produce bad results.
Elon’s company SpaceX
But not Elon specifically.
Elon has founded SpaceX and lead it to the success it has today
He founded spaceX but the success is down to the rocket scientists.
Part of these successes is hiring the right people, taking risks and investing ungodly amounts of money when nobody else dared to.
Agreed. Spotting talent and being lucky (risk taking + positive outcomes) are his defining qualities.
Not leadership. Not personally flying or building rockets. Not caring about energy transition. You don’t solve climate change by going to Mars.
He’s never going to touch your PP.
I sure hope he doesn’t!
He might offer you a horse in return, though.
What would I do with a horse LOL
Dunno, your decision. The last person he offered one to after sexually harassing her didn’t take it either. Horses are expensive to look after, and all that.
Dude I just happened to be curious and scroll through your profile and comments. Woof. Good luck to you sir. Your opinions have you setup like Doom Guy in the 90s cover art.
Sorry, I don’t understand the analogy. Thank you for your wishes though, we all need some luck.
Playing the reverse psychology game, aye?
stranded astronauts from the ISS
The Facts Behind the Delayed Return of U.S. Astronauts
In response to Musk’s claims, several astronauts took to X to refute the idea that the astronauts were purposefully abandoned. Andreas Mogensen, a former SpaceX astronaut from Denmark, posted: “What a lie. And from someone who complains about lack of honesty from the mainstream media.” In response to Mogensen, Elon replied: “You are fully rеtarded. SpaceX could have brought them back several months ago. I OFFERED THIS DIRECTLY to the Biden administration and they refused. Return WAS pushed back for political reasons. Idiot.”
Mogensen responded by stating, “Elon, I have long admired you and what you have accomplished, especially at SpaceX and Tesla. You know as well as I do, that Butch and Suni are returning with Crew-9, as has been the plan since last September. Even now, you are not sending up a rescue ship to bring them home. They are returning on the Dragon capsule that has been on ISS since last September.”
Steve Stich, the program manager for NASA’s Commercial Crew Program, said after the determination was made that Williams and Wilmore should not return on the Boeing Starliner, NASA officials met with SpaceX officials and considered “a wide range of options” and ultimately decided to attach the astronauts to the previously scheduled Crew-9 mission.
“When we looked at the situation at the time, we had a Crew-9 launch in front of us, it made sense to take the opportunity to bring Crew-9 up with just two seats and have Butch and Suni fill in and do the rest of the long duration mission,” said Dana Weigel, manager of NASA’s International Space Station Program.
“We thought the plan that we came up with made a lot of sense, and that, especially for Butch and Suni we know they’re experienced astronauts, they’re great in space,” Bowersox said. “We knew they’d be great additions to the crew and we knew that for most astronauts, spending extra time on orbit’s really a gift. And we thought they’d probably enjoy their time there. So we thought it was a good way to go … for a lot of reasons.”
see also: NASA astronauts — from space — discredit Trump claims they’re stranded
@[email protected] is any of the above news to you, or were you aware of this already when you posted your “stranded astronauts from the ISS” comments?
Yes, I am aware of the situation. The astronauts were stranded. Full stop. Whatever Musk may or may not have proposed when Biden was president is irrelevant to my statement.
Facts don’t matter to this one folks!
Of course fact matters. The fact is they were stranded.
So facts don’t matter to you. Got it.
The fact is they were stranded. They couldn’t go back to Earth when initially planned, nor at any time before the following mission ended.
The fact is they were stranded.
The astronauts said “we don’t feel abandoned, we don’t feel stuck, we don’t feel stranded”, because they were prepared for this contingency. And they object to this nonsense framing too: “Help us change the rhetoric, help us change the narrative. Let’s change it to ‘prepared and committed.”
They couldn’t go back to Earth when initially planned, nor at any time before the following mission ended.
You are simply mistaken. At all times there were multiple options available for them to go back early if it ever became necessary to.
Changing the planned duration of a mission is not the same as being “stranded”.
Keep on bootlicking, you may wake up as a billionaire
Keep on hating.
I don’t hate you, I just despise you.
Oh no! 100_kg_90_de_belin despises me :/ My life is ruined.
You have worse problems at hand, for instance sucking up to billionaires
Boy, you better stretch those cheeks further apart and get that tongue up in there. There’s a lot more kissass that Elon deserves and I’m not hearing!
I can acknowledge a person’s achievement even though I do not agree with their recent political stances. Maybe that makes me very different than you who only think good or bad?
He truly has never achieved anything. He has purchased, attached himself to, and leeched things, but never “achieved” something the way a normal person does.
“You know, when I think about it… I guess there’s some good things this tyrant did. He’s still a tyrant, but there are some good things he took credit for that he did.”
Yes, the world is not black and white, there are many shades of grey.
Ok, you grasp the concept of shades of gray. That’s a good start,but do you understand how the proportion of each shade matters?
If a person helps out an old lady with correct directions towards the city center, only to grab her purse and run when they finish can we say “they’ve done some good things”? Should the helpful directions even have any weight in our judgement of them?
If a person grows Tesla and SpaceX only to get enough power to steal from and turn several countries towards fascism, do the good things even matter, considering their actual end goal?
I was doing to make a “Elon is an animal lover”, but that’s not true. Goddamn, he doesn’t even live up to Hitler.
Nice the Elon bots have figured out Lemmy exists. Pack it up people time to find a new home.
convenient to just dismiss people who have an opinion different than yours as bots…
Nah I’ve heard all your talking points, they come prepackaged with a clown song.
As usual people like you go straight to character attacks.
I see why you’re on Lemmy, the good trolls get placements on bigger social media sites eh
Here’s a character attack: you’re a fucking parasite on society you mother fucking bootlicking cunt.
Better?
I hope Melon Husk at least pays you.
Bad bot
Lmao what a cuck.
Boeing could do it. Russia could do it. NASA could do it before they voluntarily left the game in favor of giving hands outs to billionaires’ pet projects.
Elon is not special. He’s an oligarch and nothing more.
Character attacks is all you people have to say when you don’t like reality.
Sure Russia could do it, let’s ask Russia to bring our astronauts back, yay! NASA can’t do it anymore. Boeing obviously couldn’t do it.
Great idea. Hijacking -
Hey, all of you. Stop feeding trolls. They are propagating the truly dystopian lie that the US is actually accomplishing a real energy transition, with or without Musk.
“Cleanest energy economy in the world” (JD Vance, 2024 VP debate, gaslighting the public into thinking Republicans haven’t successfully held us back from clean energy at every possible turn.)
It’s a russian muskbot or unwilling stooge. The brief account history is literally full of republican and russian defense. Don’t let them fill lemmy with stupid arguments. It distracts from the real conversations.
Downvote, and either ignore entirely, or if needed talk around the troll to everyone else listening.
Elon is evil and rotten to his core.
Sir, you spelled Felon Musk wrong.
Please stop with the childish name calling.
If you want to make Musk look bad, just point out the many illegal things he’s doing.
I’m not above name calling so long as it is at the expense of the guy who decided to collude with russia to disable starlink access to ukraine in an active war.
Felon Musk will absolutely hate the term, so it’s perfect.
Elon Musk will never see any of your comments, and neither knows nor cares you exist.
thats the american way.
Something about bootstraps and extreme individualism because real red blood 'muricans something
The best part is how his efficiency improvements will cost the government half a trillion dollars 😆
It’ll result in Musk’s douchebag billionaire buddies not getting the extra tax scrutiny. It’s a feature not a bug.
Efficiently extracting tax dollars into private bank accounts.
