Or maybe a psspsspssport?
Good luck getting one right now, they fired everyone who’s not a cop
Even when they run at full capacity it takes about 30 to 90 days for the paperwork to process.
I applied for a passport on March 1st and it is showing up on the 25th and I know someone else who applied on the same day and got theirs a week or so earlier. It isn’t taking long right now
Not true, my wife and I did our paperwork a few weeks ago and they’re due to arrive this week. Granted we paid for expedited, but they’re moving along.
It’s a good idea to keep a valid passport around no matter if you live in North America or Europe. Doesn’t hurt to be prepared.
It’s only a matter of time until they stop letting us out
Best to work on your cardio now as well, if you’ve gotta trek to a destination it’s best to have some endurance.
We’ve got big long borders and a lot of it is incredibly undeveloped.
Sometimes you gotta Von Trapp it.
By the time you realize you need to have a passport, you should have already gotten one. I got my first passport in 2000. It took like a week. I lost it and had to get a new one in 2007. I got grilled by Homeland Security in a windowless office about whether or not I was familiar with the terrorist cells in the country I was vacationing in because it was a country with a significant Muslim population. I can’t imagine what it’s like now.
Sign up for some exchange program in a neutral country, buy a round-trip ticket, and just never come back.
I renewed a year or two ago and it was no big deal (US passport but longtime Japan resident) and took like 3 weeks. I think part of it was by mail, even, though I can’t recall for sure (I think I submitted in person and received by mail? Now that I live hours away from Tokyo, I certainly hope that’s an option in 8ish years).
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it is still very easy to get a passport. I helped a friend get theirs last month, and more over the years.
don’t listen to any of the ignorant comments saying it’s difficult to get one; they don’t know what they’re talking about.
you can do it online or in person at a US Post office.
fill out the application form, takes maybe 20 minutes tops, pay the fee (165$), they take your picture, you will get your passport in the mail in a couple of weeks, it lasts for 10 years, renewable on the go from embassies and consulates.
If you have any questions about passports or traveling, fire away.
A passport costs 165 dollaroos? Damn. And I thought the 70 Euro we have to pay was excessive.
As a swede in france, you can add the travel cost to Paris, only the embassy there has the biometric machine to do passports…
Also the idiots in sweden thought 5 (yes five) years validity is a good thing.
Venezuelan passport is 220 USD to request it, and 80 USD to pick it. Total is 300 usd
And you can only request it on specific days according to your ID card end number. So Mondays is terminal numbers 0-1, Tuesday 2-3 and so on.
And they only process about 7000 request daily
Working hours are from 8 am to 12 pm or when the total processed is reached
And the website doesn’t work most of the time.
And that’s without going into the prerequisites
Venezuelan minimum wage is about 2 usd monthly.
Make of that what you will
All hail the glorious socialist revolution on Venezuela, it is working as intended
Damn, that is like satire.
The best part is the process takes like a year to complete so your passport might arrive already expired or best case will expire in 4 years instead of the minimum 5
yea, but $16 a year for an instant 50-90% reduced cost of living with guaranteed high-pay employment and no income tax while retaining access to consular services is a pretty good deal.
not as good as 7 bucks a year, but I’m not exactly going to quibble over the extra ten in the face of all the benefits.
What the fuck are you talking about
I tried to make my answers very simple and concise.
which part don’t you understand?
These are your assertions:
- Americans with a passport are guaranteed a high paying job
- Anericans with a passport don’t have to pay US income tax
- Americans with a passport also don’t have to pay foreign income tax
- Americans with a passport can move ‘instantly’ (even with some leeway for figurative language) to somewhere with 50-90% lower cost of living.
Are you an illegal border-running English as a Second Language teacher in Cambodia by any chance?
no, those are not my assertions.
it seems that rather than ask clarifying questions, you’ve extrapolated false conclusions from a base of assumptive ignorance.
not very helpful.
I hate to break it to you then, you are terrible at communicating what your actual assertions are. Because you made those assertions simple and concise. Whatever you imagined you were saying, you didn’t. Hence: what the fuck are you talking about?
Dementia
which part are you confused about?
I think they think that by having a passport you can go work in another country and skip out on taxes?
I don’t know where they got that idea but it’s hella wrong.
I’ve been doing it for 15 years, I’m definitely correct.
Damn it! Who let the bot out?!?!
I said it’s for internal testing only.
are you confused by the numbers or the words?
both are concise and to the point, in case someone like you happened upon them.
Man the main problem is that most people understand that traveling abroad with a passport is no guarantee of getting a job abroad.
Even if you travel and you have a remote job, there is no guarantee that your cost of living is gonna go down. Countries change.
Also there is the pesky fact that to be able to work as a vacation stay while being inside another country, you usually need a visa.
Try Panama for example. You can work remotely in there, all good. But you will have to pay for everything in cash because you can’t use the ATMs up to certain limits of withdrawals.
Try western union? Good, a chunk of your money is just gone, and that’s if they don’t catch you transferring money to yourself. They are not a Bank.
Try crypto? That’s good too, comes with the expected baggage of taking security on yourself, not the bank. And certainly not “easy” true the standard person who never traveled
Even credit cards have limited use as you need to leave a travel warning to the card. Maybe you renew it, maybe not, but after a time suspicious activity starts to pile up from outside your billing country
Pay rent? In cash. Sure there are landlords that will accommodate for that (for a higher price and good luck complaining about anything. To who?) but most will be subject to taxes on the property and to get discounts on those they need to make a digital invoice for you.
Rent is not cheap in there. Food is cheap but it is getting near international prices since a few years ago
And forget about all the luxuries you have in the usa while living in there.
Someone assaults you or you get robbed or into an incident, car crash, your personals stolen? Forget the cops.
Health? All paid. Not cheap and certainly not easily accessible.
Also insurance. If you are identified as an illegal working abroad, policies you got while in the usa may not cover for that.
Transportation is the easiest one but going everywhere with a cabify or Uber is expensive. Rent a car? Sure, also expensive. Buy a cheap car? Sure. You need legal means on the country to do that. Driving license? Hope you legalized and apostilled that too.
You could become a citizen. But if you have 40k ISD to 750k USD to spare, why the hassle? Stay at the USA.
And that’s from the top of my head for one country.
And that’s without talking about how you’re presence there will make everything expensive for the locals over time
So you not only fucking up your life, but others as well
Truly American collectivism in action
tldr your anxieties here are ridiculous and for the large part simply unfactual and unsupported by any evidence, although I take the time to correct them below.
“most people understand that traveling abroad with a passport is no guarantee of getting a job abroad”
this is specifically because they don’t have the experience or knowledge that comes with traveling abroad.
"Even if you travel and you have a remote job, there is no guarantee that your cost of living is gonna go down. "
this is flatly incorrect, maybe the most ignorant comment so far. this is as incorrect as claiming that one plus one equals four.
if you move from a country with a high cost of living to a country with a lower cost of living, your cost of living will go down, full stop, there is no maybe about it.
that is simple fact, and to claim otherwise is absurd and makes absolutely zero sense.
“Countries change.”
broadly and over time, but you aren’t going to land in a country that costs 50% less and then suddenly find out 3 months later that everything costs as much as the US.
that does not hapoen, but even if we play to make believe and it did, you can move the next day to another of the 100+ countries with a lower cost of living.
“the pesky fact that to be able to work as a vacation stay while being inside another country, you usually need a visa.”
this is also incorrect and clearly stems from your ignorance of travel.
if you ask questions instead of making assumptions, I won’t have to correct every single one of these false statements.
three important points here:
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if you are a digital nomad, many countries waive taxes and a work visa for digital income. you can go through the Visa process if you want to, but you do not need to.
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a work visa for teaching English abroad as a native English speaker is about the easiest visa to get.
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visas are not some kind of crapshoot or gamble. if you apply for a Visa and you fit the requirements, you get the visa. the process only becomes more surefire for industry-critical jobs, like English teaching in a world that relies on English.
“You can work remotely in there, all good.”
correct.
“But you will have to pay for everything in cash”
incorrect, you can use a card with no transaction fees, or online payments.
“…because you can’t use the ATMs up to certain limits of withdrawals.”
every bank in refrigerator country has daily withdrawal limits, is that what you’re afraid of?
because the daily limit in Panama for withdrawals is $500 per day. that’s plenty of money for daily activities.
you don’t even need more than $500 a day in the US.
“Try western union? Good, a chunk of your money is just gone, and that’s if they don’t catch you transferring money to yourself.”
there is no reason to throw away your money.
if you want to throw away your money personally, feel free, or give it to someone in need.
you choosing to throw away money out of ignorance or fear doesn’t mean that the cost of living is more expensive, it means that you are personally choosing to throw away money.
“Try crypto?”
again, zero reason to do this.
"Even credit cards have limited use as you need to leave a travel warning to the card. "
first, this is not true.
secondly, if you want to leave a travel warning, it is a one minute phone call.
you call the company you want to, tell them I will be traveling for the next 6 months, they say okay and add the notification to your account.
if you forget to do that and your card gets frozen while abroad (which is not common), you call up the bank tell them you are traveling, confirm your identity and they unfreeze your card.
“Maybe you renew it, maybe not”
this would be the exact same thing if you were still living in the US. do you use expired credit and debit cards in the us?
of course not, that would be idiotic.
“after a time suspicious activity starts to pile up from outside your billing country”
this is simply untrue, the longer you travel the more normal it becomes that you are using your card abroad.
and again with a one minute phone call, you can let the company know you were traveling, this is a non-issue.
“Pay rent? In cash.”
flatly incorrect again.
you can use pretty much any form of payment to pay online for rent in every country.
“Rent is not cheap in there”
again, that is the whole point of moving to a place with a cheap cost of living.
you seem not to understand basic math.
if you move to a place that costs more, or a house that costs more than where you are living now, you are going to end up paying more, and have a higher cost of living.
my suggestion is that people who are paying a lot move to places that cost less for the same quality, that will result in a lower cost of living.
you want to pay more, I want people to pay less.
“Food is cheap but it is getting near international prices since a few years ago”
this is not true, even though you’ve chosen the richest country in Central America.
you can take a bus from that country to any other country and everything will instantly be cheaper.
you are very confused about how economies work.
"forget about all the luxuries you have in the usa while living in there. "
incorrect, especially in Panama you can enjoy every single luxury at a lower price than you enjoy in the US.
not to mention the cost of living is so low, you’re enjoying zero cost of utilities, an incredibly low cost of insurance, low cost of healthcare, low cost of all foods, low cost of rent, and every luxury you want is available but costs less.
this is why I encourage people to move away from the US. except for you, you are so afraid of basic facts that maybe you should give yourself some time.
“Transportation is the easiest one…”
you’re clearly talking about how afraid us transportation makes you and how expensive it is, that is the most expensive and useless transportation in the world.
transportation everywhere else in the world is very commonplace, easy to use and cheap in comparison to the US.
none of what you have said so far is remotely accurate, while my information is easily verifiable by online apps, charts and articles.
“You could become a citizen”
you could become a skydiver.
“But if you have 40k ISD to 750k USD to spare, why the hassle? Stay at the USA.”
because if you have 750k USD to spare (and have no unforeseen expenses), you can live for several years in the US inside a system that does not support you, OR you can live abroad well for the rest of your life.
if you stay in the usa, you have no health Care. if you travel abroad, you have quality, instant, affordable healthcare.
if you stay in the us, your utilities alone cost more than twice your rent if you live abroad.
if you stay in the us, you aren’t guaranteed a job as a native English speaker. abroad, you are guaranteed that job.
there are many reasons to not stay in the US.
you are completely off the mark on all of your fears and anxieties.
and that is why I am here, because I know what I’m talking about.
Lol no 🤣
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why do you keep saying lower cost of living?
If you go homeless you can also have a lower cost of living.
Contrary to popular belief, if you’re dead, the cost of living is zero.
“why do you keep saying lower cost of living?”
because a lot of americans are poor and scared because they are poor.
move abroad, they aren’t poor and can rapidly save money.
A lower cost of living means you have more money.
I’m…not sure I can make this simpler for you, so I hope one of those sticks.
“If you go homeless you can also have a lower cost of living.”
Incorrect. You aren’t living the same way, you are merely surviving which I’ve already pointed out in my earlier comments by specifying the easy accessibility of a lower cost of living while retaining the same or better services.
You can go homeless if you want, but that’s your own playpen, not my recommendation.
“Contrary to popular belief, if you’re dead, the cost of living is zero.”
How did you not know this before now?
What did you think dead people were spending money on?
yeah but we aren’t talking about emmigration, we’re talking about passports, passports make travel legal. They don’t allow you to emmigrate. (technically they do facilitate it, but you also need a lot of paper work with whatever country you’re moving to)
Incorrect. You aren’t living the same way, you are merely surviving which I’ve already pointed out in my earlier comments by specifying the easy accessibility of a lower cost of living while retaining the same or better services.
says who? You seem to think money comes from schizophrenia central, rather than like, a company that somebody works at. Or a job that they have, if you’re homeless, you would be spending 0 money on cost of living, and therefore have SO MUCH MONEY.
How did you not know this before now?
sarcasm, satire even.
What did you think dead people were spending money on?
If i had the same level of intelligence as you, cost of living.
“yeah but we aren’t talking about emmigration”
There you go! I just have to keep repeating the same thing and knew you’d eventually catch on. Spelling notwithstanding.
'They don’t allow you to emmigrate."
Not what we’re talking about, remember there champ?
“but you also need a lot of paper work with whatever country you’re moving to”
Incorrect.
“if you’re homeless, you would be spending 0 money on cost of living, and therefore have SO MUCH MONEY.”
What did…that’s it.
Sweet summer child, homeless people in america without income make even less than your vaunted capitalists in America, again because the cost of living is so high. Homeless people with an income are not going to be saving any money. Because they don’t have an income.
No wonder you thought dead people spend money.
Dude. Book. Read.
You’re hopelessly lost.
You can also ask questions, so you stop sounding so ignorant.
Your comments are embarrassing to read.
Stop acting so scared. Ask some real questions. You can learn here.
u post like a schizo bro, did u take ur meds today?
I did.
“They’re not sending their best.”
This is not accurate. The people with the capability and can afford to leave a country is typically more educated and have a higher net worth.
During a “Brain Drain”, your country is literally get the best of the best.
“Rapists and murderers”
The USA is but its a pretty low bar. Tons of academics are leaving the country.
“Rapists and murderers”
Yeah I guess we sent those out of the 50 states: and into the District of Columbia.
I renewed my US passport about 6 months ago. I was eligible to renew online. Cost around $130 if I remember correctly. The online process was actually really easy and it came in the mail only a few weeks later (2-3 weeks). Highly recommend renewing online if you meet the eligibility requirements.
This ☝️. You don’t even have to go to the store to get a passport picture taken if it’s a renewal, take a pic of yourself using their guidelines. Tripod or have someone take it for you. Send that in. 2-3 weeks it’s at your door.
Better hurry and get it before they make it practically or literally impossible for everyone except the most privileged…
or they force you to serve in the military first to earn a passport. kind of like earning your citizenship in starship troopers.
too old to serve?..didnt ask…
The way they talk about how military service should be required for basic privileges is terrifying as a disabled person. No I didn’t join the military to pay for my education, I was never going to be allowed in even if I wanted to
People in the military are less likely to disobey corrupt orders as long as they come from the correct chain of command.
Power comes from a politically consolidated military. The larger the military the greater the reigns of power become.
That’d be one incentive for the people in power to force citizens into the military.
Some of the better arguments abstract it out to civil service requirements and not just military. I understand the urge to make people ‘prove’ their willingness to work for the betterment of the country before you let them vote, but I don’t think mandatory conscription would actually help.
Required civil service would be a very interesting program. Especially if they used it to build out important infrastructure like national parks that might otherwise be neglected.
I’m remembering one discussion in particular where he used the Civilian Conservation Corps and other work-relief programs during the Great Depression as evidence that it’s perfectly possible for the government to just invent jobs to be done, and especially now that we’re in the digital age, there is zero reason to keep a ‘conscription to vote’ scheme as military only.
Trump’s Golden Passport, only five millions, for a limited time only! Lets you go visa free to beautiful Puerto Rico, Guam, and soon to Canada and Greenland. Other destinations pending.
Order yours now!Conditions may apply.
Don’t forget the Gaza Rivera.
and depending on where you fall on the color chart, potentially sunny Guantanamo Bay.
I mean, they basically already have… It cost $165/person for a passport that can go anywhere but Canada and Mexico. Over $600 for a family before you can even go anywhere. For probably 90% of families, that sort of disposable income is a dream when most people can’t afford a $500 emergency expense.
americans on their way to destroy another country (they already managed to destroy the one they were living in)
The ones leaving aren’t the ones that destroyed it
sure thing. “we did all we could!!! we placed an X on a ballot and that didn’t work so it’s time to run away”
Have you considered that at least some of us have attended protests too? What are your suggestions? Revolution sounds good to me too, but I’m afraid that’s a hard one to get started and, with our surveillance state, a pretty sure way to end up in prison.
Not to mention we’d be fighting against the might of the US military.
Last time I checked they’ve got the capability to turn someone to paint faster than you can say, “Do you hear something?”
It’s call Brain Drain. I left during the first Trump presidency.
Where’d you go? Does it pay well? Is child care good? Where do you recommend going?
I moved to Taiwan. Pay is less than America, but cost of living is also way less so it’s relative. We get universal health care which offsets the lower income.
For reference, my water bill is around 30usd a month and my electric is 100usd. My 5G unlimited data cellphone is 20usd a month.
Childcare is way cheaper than America, and more abundant.
How did you get the work visa ? Did someone sponsor you? Was working remotely employed to your USA job an option?
Yeah, how dare these people not stick around so they can be the first ones in the camps?!
sure, let’s have all the poor minorities that can’t afford to run be the ones in camps while we privileged white folks just get a nice place at some european country
This is pure brainrot
Americans who travel, as with all travelers, tend to become open-mindedx curious and engaging people; traveling makes people better.
I got mine very recently and I’m so happy about it. I’m trying to get my family members to get it as well but they refuse to, it’s upsetting.
I feel your frustration.
I got my passport 15 years ago and have been traveling since then, and since then family members, friends and strangers have complained to me about things that could easily be remedied by moving.
one friend has been complaining about the states pretty much the entire time since I left, asking me how she can travel like I do, and even today is still saying “I just have to get a passport and get out of here”, which is what she was saying 15 years ago.
then leave, let them be.
Aren’t you afraid other countries will treat you the way Americans are treating others? Why not stay and fix your goddamn country.
Me when Jews fled Germany. Me when people flee South America. Me when people flee war torn countries. If people (who didn’t vote for this) can leave, I hope they do. It hasn’t been our country in a long time. Individuals deserve the liberties guaranteed to them by the constitution and if they can no longer find that here and are able to find it elsewhere, they should. There is not enough will here to change things. Throwing yourself at the wall of fascism is a great way to die needlessly. No one should be obligated to die because of the failings of the government they happen to live under. If we had the numbers and could do something, maybe I’d understand your perspective, but we don’t have the numbers, and we live in a surveillance state the likes of which history does not have an analogue for. Our government has cameras everywhere and is able to track our every conversation. People here believe this is the will of god. There’s no quick fix for that and I don’t think people that will be actively hunted down in the meantime have any obligation to stay.
People in other countries are far less scary than oppressive fascist governments
Most US democrats are actually cowards: unwilling to do anything outside of internet complaints, convincing mentally ill people to commit violence for them online, pathetic finger waggling or holding up signs/paddles so they can high-five each other at the end of a productive day doing nothing.
Find me a Democrat who is inciting violence.
Hell, find me a Democrat.
Sure, here you go.
You’re not going to have a hard time finding a dem inciting violence.
We don’t know how. We were told all our lives that voting was the fix, but that system is broken now.
You know how. Everyone knows how. They’re just too scared of a real fight to go through the methods
I believe you call it the “second amendment.” We’ve been hearing about how America needw school shootings cause of it for decades.
other countries treat travelers very nicely. even Vietnam, which is the only country I was kind of nervous about visiting.
staying and fixing the country isn’t really worth it right now, that’s like suggesting someone stay in an abuseive household and “fix” their abusive father.
get out of the house first, go from there.
staying and fixing the country isn’t really worth it right now, that’s like suggesting someone stay in an abuseive household and “fix” their abusive father.
what do you think civil wars are?
What do you think centaurs are?
creatures that only exist in fiction? Like your comments?
“creatures that only exist in fiction?”
Why are you asking me?
“Like your comments?”
Kid, the lines of reality are clearly blurred for you, but these comments are happening right now. They are not fiction.
I pity you, sincerely. You must have a difficult life.
Why are you asking me?
you asked me lil bro.
Kid, the lines of reality are clearly blurred for you, but these comments are happening right now. They are not fiction.
advanced internet users like myself call this “humor” or “comedy” the joke here is that i’m making fun of your nonsensical comments by calling back to the previous comment you left, after responding to it, that would be referred to as “witt” or “witty humor”
I pity you, sincerely. You must have a difficult life.
thinking these jokes up is really hard, takes me all day.
“you asked me”
no I didn’t sport, you got yourself all turned around
“advanced internet users like myself call this “humor”…”
just keep trying, I’m sure you’ll get there one day.
The USians leaving are the ones who didn’t vote for fascism and at least speaking for myself, are learning the language and culture of the place they are going to. I appreciate you not wanting a USian immigrant crisis, but I hope you can welcome those of us who make it over AND who treat the locals with respect. 🥺
Passports only matter if you want to come back
That’s not true. Most countries require one to enter their country from another.
haha, no, they’re pretty important across the board for travel.
Try and fly to another country without a passport - you wouldn’t get past security.
Or if you want to enter another place.
If you just want to stay on your boat in the middle of the Atlantic, you don’t really need one.
I have one but it’s been very difficult for me to just sell a bunch of things and get up and go somewhere without any security when I get there.
I speak English und ich lerne ein bisschen Deutsch aber ich spreche nicht gut. I don’t think there exists a place where I knew I could prosper and not worry about being forced to leave within a year or two.
there are a lot of jobs teaching English and German in asia, you can get a work visa, teach 25 hours a week, you’ll save a couple thousand a month and can buy anything you want.
