I’d be happy if we could just join the EEA. I want to be able to work in the EU.
I think it is not that hard for you if you are a Canadian citizen. The language is the real problem.
Washington, Oregon, and California as Canada’s 12th province. Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, and the northern 20% of Illinois and Indiana as the 13th.
I only hear Americans pitching this idea. Canada doesn’t want any of the states haha
I’m Canadian, I don’t hate the idea.
In any case, it’s clear that the USA is less “United” these days… It’s more just … The States of America now.
There’s like a lot of shitty people even in those states. I love Washington but no thanks.
Idk. I haven’t met enough people from any of these states to have an opinion.
Which is all part of the EU. Sign me up
Is Canada having issues with sovereign autonomy? Why even sit at the table?
Why not? I would vote yes to allow Canada into the EU.
Türkiye is gonna be pissed.
Türkiye needs to get rid of its Erdoğan problem then.
Wouldn’t mind it one bit
How about the US just becomes provinces 14-64? I’ll gladly take anything else.
You want more convoys? Ingesting the US will give you nothing but cancer. If it’s not a city or a suburb, you’re just absorbing indoctrinated fascism. It’s pervasive.
Yea, I’ll take the top 20.
Mexico can take the bottom 30
Nah sorry we’re not taking the red states. They can be their own Christofascist hell elsewhere.
make a list of the ones y’all want we can work out a deal
So just all of new england, the pacific northwest and California.
California already goes to Denmark though
Can I raise you the proposal of Canada and Jesusland
this looks like a dragon head with cat / dragon torso and cat legs
Indeed, I like that map.
Alaska needs to be integrated though, don’t want another Kaliningrad.
Good point, but it’s an F’n red state.
At a minimum any states bordering Canada, including those bordering the 4 Great Lakes shared with Canada, should get a vote of which country to go with.
Pennsylvania is 100% included, and honestly if Indiana and Illinois go for it despite being on the “wrong” Great Lake, I’m not going to complain.
You can give us Buffalo any day. I love that city so much.
Can we Philadelphians join?
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No, you guys know what you’ve done
As someone from a South Jersey suburb of Philly: take me with you!
Any reasons why these two neighborhoods go against the grain? Are they the posh suburbs?
Jesus Christ, yes please!
This is genius!
Are we going to be called anti-Semitic?
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Why are non-European countries even allowed to participate?
All countries associated with the European Broacast Union can participate.
Brazil, Peru, Japan, India, and even China and the US could participate too.
Russia and Lybia used to be part of the EBU but they were suspended. They know what they did.
All countries associated with the European Broacast Union can participate.
Theoretically yes, but associated members (in contrast to full members) still need to be approved on a case by case basis.
Active members (as opposed to associate members) of the European Broadcasting Union (EBU) are eligible to participate; […]. Associate member broadcasters may be eligible to compete, dependent on approval by the contest’s reference group.[49]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurovision_Song_Contest#Participation
Because Australia were mega fans, so they invited us :3
Eurovision is organised by the European Broadcasting Union, which includes basically all countries in the European Broadcasting Area (basically Europe + all of the Mediterranean). Those include Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Israel, Armenia, etc. They have always been allowed to participate. Australia is an outlier. They just got a special invitation.
As a European, I think it would be pretty funny if, after Brexit, the other parts of the former Empire joined the EU.
But at least right now, membership is probably more of a meme - some solid cooperation and shared institutions would be amazing, though.
EU already said this can’t work. It said in the rooms only European countries can join the EU. But something can be worked out, no doubt.
EuropeanWorldwide UnionGlobalists but for real this time.
Canada becomes a France province, easy.
Or France becomes a Canadian one and switch to English as the primary official language. It would solve a ton of issues and I’m sure the French would be okay with it.
It’s been ok so far in Canada.
Wait…
Where did they get all those torches and pitchforks so fast?
You have to be “substantially European”, which includes Cyprus, which is fully in Asia and half Turkish. Also, Greenland and to a degree Iceland aren’t geographically European.
Neither Greenland nor Iceland are in the EU.
No, but French Guiana is, and it’s in South America.
kind of
Ah shit, you’re right about Iceland. I thought it was for some reason.
Greenland like usual has no data (because WTF is it really? Independent? A territory?). Denmark definitely is, though, and Greenlanders presently get the full benefits of that.
Membership of the European Economic Area - same as Norway - for example.
Comes with being part of the EU Internal Market, Freedom Of Movement (both ways, of course) and exceptions in a couple of areas (such as fishing rights not being decided by the EU, which I suspect is something that Canada would rather have) but without voting power within the EU.
I’m not sure why I keep seeing this posted, like it’s some sort of gotcha. It doesn’t mean our other elections would have to change, just the brand new representatives to the EU.
The vote for liberal leadership used Preferential Voting where you could indicate more than one preference.
It’s not about being a “gotcha” - it’s about demonstrating a pathway to better democratic representation.
You’re right that EU membership would only require PR for European Parliament representatives initially. However, this would create several significant opportunities:
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Practical demonstration: Canadians would experience firsthand how an electoral system that ensures every vote counts actually works, rather than just hearing theoretical arguments.
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Institutional precedent: Once PR is successfully implemented for one electoral body, the argument that it’s “too complex” or “un-Canadian” becomes much harder to maintain.
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Democratic legitimacy gap: Having representatives to the EU Parliament elected through PR while our own MPs are chosen through FPTP would create an obvious legitimacy contrast that would be difficult to justify.
The Liberal leadership vote using preferential voting actually supports this point. Internal party processes already recognize the limitations of FPTP - they just don’t extend those same democratic principles to the general electorate. In fact, all parties, even the Conservatives, use superior electoral systems to FPTP.
The reality is that 76% of Canadians support electoral reform according to recent polling, but our major parties benefit from maintaining a system that systematically discards votes. Exposure to functioning PR would make the democratic deficit in our current system increasingly apparent.
I get what you are saying, but the UK joined the EU with FPTP voting and left the EU because of FPTP. So while I agree that exposure might change things I do doubt it.
From all I’ve having lived in a couple of countries in the EU (including the UK), exposure to Proportional Vote in the EU Parliament Election seems to have zero impact on people wanting it for other election, maybe because EU MPs are too far away from most people and don’t really get all that much news coverage, unlike the national politics of a country.
Mind you, personally exposure to Proportional Vote when I was living in The Netherlands has definitely made my mind in favour of it, especially after I moved to Britain and was exposed to their shit-show FPTP voting system (worse than my own country of Portugal which as multi-representant electoral circles, so way less Democratic than PR but nowhere as bad as FPTP).
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Because it’s a step towards proportional representation. It would expose much more of the populace to how it’s done. Hopefully getting more people used to the idea of it.
There would be voting changes , I believe, something about EU membership requiring a certain type of voting system. Eg. Not FPP
Hungary’s system is half proportional, half FPP on steroids, but it’s just as bad as FPP since our FPP lets the winner not just take the seat, but also extra votes into the proportional part of the race.
So, no, the EU is fine with everything, the only thing is that EU citizens have to be able to vote in local elections wherever we live, regardless of citizenship. That means if you join, and I rent a place in Toronto and move in, I get a vote for the Toronto mayor on day one.
A lot of people don’t get it until they see it in action.
My union recently had a vote about increasing health benefits. “No” won in one of the categories because there were 3 options for how much to increase it by. (Yes won by 76% while the no beat the top yes 24% to 23%)
I pointed this out at the next meeting and we had a vote and struck the no vote. Later a bunch of people said thanks for pointing that out, and my reply was “no sweat, we have the same problem with our elections.”
Then everyone applauded and Einstein gave me a piece of π. Just kidding, it was more like weird looks and a couple agreements, but I like to think I brought the issue to a few people’s attention.
#28thnever51st
I (from yrp) would absolutely love this <3
Well, if Canada can take part in the Eurovision song contest, they might as well join the EU.
Everyone knows supreme executive power is derived from Eurovision.
Fucking Celine Dion
