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    Not to mention the “Governor Trudeau” extra-dumb.

    God I hate politics-by-Twitter. I’m appalled that the US is turning into a fascist country, but I’m even more appalled by how pathetic, puerile and trashy our new fascist overlords are. At least Hitler dressed in Hugo Boss and made speeches that enthralled people: MAGA dresses like tramps, Steve Bannon-stylee and bullies other countries like kids on the playground.

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        No, Twitter is worse IMO. Truth social has always been a steaming pile of shit that non-fascists avoid. Twitter used to be viewed in a positive light and a lot of organizations and governments still use it as a communication medium - sometimes an exclusive communication medium.

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          Twitter used to be viewed in a positive light

          It never was though. Studies always showed that it increase anxiety in the users. Hell, I’m trying to use Bsky to support artists trying to move away from twitter and the while it’s not too bad, the character limit is forcing me to simplify my thoughts to the point that they’re no longer specific enough not to create new conflict. Is this how twitter always was?

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            Twitter was awesome pre-2015 then something happened…can’t quite figure out what brought a bunch of assholes to the platform…hmm…

            And if you feel forced to simplify your thoughts to fit the character limit, you’re simply using the wrong service

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            It depends on what you mean my positive light but generally I would say you’re wrong. Twitter had a dedicated fan base well into this decade and was where every business and personality had an account for a reason. Yes people knew of negative social media effecta but Twitter definitely had a fairly wide spread cult following.

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              where every business and personality had an account for a reason

              to sell shit

              Also, it seems weird to say a mainstream social media platform cult following.

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                it seems weird to say a mainstream social media platform cult following.

                I agree the word choice is a bit odd. I meant in the sense that Twitter had a dedicated userbase that used it a lot and sort of glorified it. You weren’t talking with your friends or posting online, you were “Tweeting at your mutuals”. The most succinct way I could put it was “cult”, in the same sense that movies and TV have “cult” followings: a dedicated group that enjoys and bases some part of their personality around it.

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                  “Cult following” refer to fanbases for obscure media, like Wraith or Ice Pirates. Star Wars does not have a Cult following.

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            I considered Twitter as one of the horsemen of the apocalypse, and that was years before musk bought it.

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      Yeah, I remember watching speeches by Hitler back when I was in school. I didn’t understand German so I didn’t know what he was saying, but I could at least appreciate that the Nazis knew how to project power and competence.

      I always understood the fascist aesthetic to be something very macho, very serious-seeming, etc. I always thought the idea was that you had an incredibly charismatic strong-man leader who had all the answers. And, given that, I could understand how people could be taken in.

      But, the MAGA aesthetic is so ugly. Their rhetoric is so unserious. Their leader is so old, fat and caked in orange makeup, and he sounds like an absolute moron. The people attending the rallies do comical things like wearing diapers. And yet, half the US looks at that and thinks: yeah, I’ll vote for them.

      And then there’s Elon Musk. Every time he opens his mouth it’s less and less believable that anything he ever did was the result of skill or competence. Any time he talks about programming or system administration it’s clear he has no fucking clue what he’s talking about. When he talks about gaming he claims he’s one of the top players in the world, and yet it’s obvious he’s barely played the games involved. But, apparently Americans are so brainwashed that being rich means you’re “a genius”.

      I hated George W. Bush, but at least I could understand how some people found his schtick endearing. I could understand how he harnessed people’s fear and hate and turned it into support for his “war on terrah”. But, with Trump my opinion of Americans has gone down to the lowest level ever. This is what works for you? Really??

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      That shows clearly that these tariffs are there to distract (yes it they hurt Americans, Canadians and Mexicans, but he doesn’t care) to make media stop talking about Ukraine.

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        And ukraine is there to distract from tax cuts, and tax cuts and there to distract from the lost of medicare and the lost of medicare is there to distract from them stealing everything, etc etc

        maybe, just maybe, they are just dumb and evil

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          There’s still a difference between the severity of some of these things.

          With the right leadership America could undo tariffs or the anti-DEI stuff or even drastically redistribute that stolen wealth with the stroke of a pen. The damage to America’s alliances could be repaired over time, especially if they show broad commitment to reforming. These things suck and will hurt but are fixable.

          You can’t sign a piece of paper to unfuck Ukraine, or restore gutted institutional knowledge or depose hereditary president-for-life Trump Jr.

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          Sony forget that the tax cuts actually increase taxes for most working class Americans by $3k a year.

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        It is all to distract from the dismantling of any apparatus that could block his next attempt to stay in power forever.

        This is all misdirection.

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        To be fair, the nazis were pretty fucking stupid too. The evil-cool, machine-like, storm trooper aesthetic they’re known for is cultivated, at least by a significant portion, by nazis overseas that wanted them to be likeable.

        Some of it is cultural momentum, for sure. I also like Storm Troopers. But nazis really like Storm Troopers.

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      Not to mention the “Governor Trudeau” extra-dumb.

      Trudeau is probably above that, but it would be mildly amusing if he started calling Trump “comrade Trump” or maybe “vice-president Trump”

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        We should all be calling him by his real name, “VP Krasnov”.

        ETA: and “Murca” is now glorious “KRASNOVIA

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    I am so fucking embarrassed that my fellow citizens elected this fucktard instead of the extremely qualified and dignified Kamala Harris.

    I hate it here.

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    Just skip to the end and stop all imports and exports between both countries, see how well that goes.

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    I love seeing that video of a journalist asking trump about what he said about some tariffs and him responding “I think the other countries pay them”. He truly doesn’t know how they work.

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      In all fairness, a fringe economist told him that. Navarro still hasn’t been able to successfully explain to anyone why tariffs won’t raise prices. He gets as far as “they can’t raise tariffs on the largest market in the world” as if there weren’t high tariffs on the us before.

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    I get why the USA doesn’t see Melania anywhere … If I’d say half the things he said, my wife would not show herself to anyone either. If i’d say all of it she’d be gone far far far away long before i finished babbling

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      As if she has shame. She’s the “I really don’t care, do u?” first lady. All she has is a boatload of disgust for the physically detestable husband she’s saddled with and no reason to appear beside him. If he were young and handsome, she’d be sucking him off in public.

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      I feel like it’s a miss without words - the most obvious interpretation would be that Trump and Trudeau are equivalent and that’s just false here - if you were intending that Trump is pointing at himself then that works but there are mirror memes that’d probably fit a bit better.

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        No matterhpw ypu look at it, it’s the same. Trump on Trump or Trump on Trudeau.

        Don’t get it twisted, Trump is on a different level. However, Trudeau and U.S. Democrats being bad at governoring lead to extreme right-wing politics.

        • Poor regulation on the housing markets
        • Foreign interference harming the people
        • Stagnant wages
        • Relax regulation on the ultra wealthy
        • No consequences on corruption
        • Accountablilty on police/official abuse
        • Little/under investment in public services

        Shit, We can be here all day.

        77,302,5802 U.S. Americans are not all racist. A lot of them got tired of being fucked nonstop by shit officials.

        Canada is not immune to a Trump clone. Look at Germany’s election results. They might have their own Trump soon. 3-4 idiots like that and the world is a completely new place.

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          Germany’s election wasn’t a big dub for the AfD, the coalition formed for >50% and the rest don’t support their agenda.

          And 77m people voting for a 6 time (soon to be 7) bankruptcy convicted felon does say something about their voters.

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    He is factually not the dumbest man on earth. We can criticize without discrediting ourselves with unnecessary hyperbole

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    Governor? It’s he really referring to the Canadian prime Minister as though he is the governor of a state? And they said Biden was losing his grasp on reality.

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      Biden was

      This isn’t trump not understanding the concept of a governor. This is him stating multiple times over and over that he wants to take over Canada.

      The same way Putin knew it wasn’t a special military operation but an invasion. The language matters

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        Probably but I don’t think we’ve had an actual doctor come to any conclusion and probably won’t until he’s dead. Barring that Trump does the same shit but instead of freezing he just goes full word salad. It also seems like he’s having some pretty severe mobility issues.

        Yeah that’s still fucking dumb because it’s not a state. You don’t call the car you want to buy “your car” because it just isn’t.

        Well no, Putin couldn’t openly declare war without forcing Europe to get involved, if they claim it’s anything else we’ll that’s more grey.

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            He’s using serious channels and conventions to deliver deeply unserious ultimatums in order to consolidate attention and create confusion. He will do the same exact thing as the tariffs if it gets to a point of actual mobilization.

            “Trump withdraws troops from Canadian border for fifth time this month”

            And while everyone is reeling and scared and wondering what the fuck will happen tomorrow, Elon and his little cronies are literally hauling cash out the back door.

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                Well he might seriously get us into a literal war with our neighbors, but it’s not because he gives a shit about politics or international anything. He’s doing a cash-grab right now with and for his donors and sponsors and his family. He is not serious about anything he says because he’s not telling anyone what his actual motivations are.

                Serious in this context doesn’t mean “not joking” but rather means “with a real intention of affecting political change.”

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                  I’m not convinced he’s not serious about what he says. I assume everything is a trial balloon. But more importantly, his entire cabinet nods along to his words and the media does not push back.

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              At the top of this thread you were implying that Trump referred to the Canadian prime Minister as governor because he was losing his grasp on reality.

              No. Trump is fully lucid when he explicitly threatens Canada.

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                Fanciful wishes are a loss of reality. Someone who thinks they are king is not likely to be sane in this day and age.

                Yes he did, however this is just wishful thinking and talking shit. You know the general purview of the mentally unfit.

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          I noticed Trump on his speech last night mis-spoke and paused for a split second then kind of half way changed the message to make his error a non error in the “new message”

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          You do if you want to steal said car and then turn around and tell everyone that it was actually yours to begin with

          We know its a lie. He knows it’s a lie. Probably even the idiots who vote for him know its a lie. But if you say a lie enough times and people don’t tell you to fuck off, it becomes the truth.

          The same way that people are taught that the american civil war was fought for states rights, not slavery, when we know that most of the states seceded because of slavery

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            No because it that situation you still did the thing, here he’s just playing about prosperity gospel shit where of you just believe it’ll happen.

            It doesn’t though, that only works on very specific things that aren’t as easily disproven by something like the existence of an entire country.

            No one is taught that in school, parents say that shit.

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              Man Palestine was an entire country up until 1947 and now you find people.saying that it never existed and was always Israeli land.

              These lies do work, and they are used as justification after the fact. Again, very similar to how Putin also said Ukraine wasn’t really a country and was part of Russia.

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                Well no. Mandatory Palestine which specifically was not a country… Wasn’t a country.

                It’s an effective lie because it includes hints of truth.

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      It’s deliberately disrespectful. He has said that Canada should become a US state. This is convicted felon Trumps way to belittle both PM Trudeau and the sovereign nation of Canada

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        The funny thing is this is Trump’s way of trying to insult Canada and our PM, but he comes off sounding like an idiot who doesn’t know Trudeau’s proper title.

        Like, come on USA. Your grandfather is wandering down the street with his pants off again. Can you come get him?

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          Can you come get him?

          I don’t think we can. Not yet anyway. Cut off the power and throw enough tariffs to piss off US corporations we might be able to get people out in the streets.