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    Me: This is America.

    Pornhub: This content is not available in your state due to ID verification legislation.

    My VPN: This is Germany.

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      My favorite small example of this is trying to watch a video on YouTube. If my VPN is set to United States then im told ‘You can’t watch this unless you log in.’

      I switch to Germany and like magic the video plays. So clearly they didn’t need to confirm I wasn’t a bot. They just wanted to track my viewing habits.

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    I don’t care if kids see porn.

    If that’s the worst thing ever, justifying this invasion of privacy, whoop de shit. Let 'em.

    There’s a lot worse on the internet. There’s a lot worse on daytime television. Blood and guts and cults and informercials. Desirable crude entertainment is obviously not worth locking down the internet. I mean for fuck’s sake, at least with “four horsemen” excuses, like terrorism and money laundering, people agree that those things are bad.

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      Yes, you’re right. But that doesn’t fit with their “think of the children” moral compass. Which isn’t even pointing the correct direction, but good luck convincing them of that.

      I feel like my compass analogy isn’t the best, but eh.

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      It’s absolutely reprehensible that you think it’s okay for a child to see an infomercial

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      I was never exposed to porn on the internet as a child, outside of advertisements and typing website names wrong. I never looked for it either, if a child is actively seeking it out, its up to a parent to deal with it. People should stop making laws to protect bad parents.

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        its up to a parent to deal with it

        What a nice cherry on top of the hypocrisy pie. The party of “personal responsibility” and “small government” is perfectly happy when government is used to regulate sexuality and help out the irresponsible parents that don’t want to spend time monitoring their children’s Internet usage. Now young teens are going to learn how to use VPNs or just find the shadier sites that don’t give a shit about U.S. state laws.

        Both of which would be adequately addressed by parents learning how to use the tools that are probably already built into their router.

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      The thing is that by now, plenty of adults grew up watching porn when they were minors, and know that this hasn’t been harmful to them… so why are we even still getting laws like that, shouldn’t voters and their representatives know better by now…

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    Soon they’ll start recording you jerking it to cross reference with previous sessions as identity confirmation.

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      Well, they know what parts of what videos you watch, your favorite keywords, time/days patterns, location, I’d say they can train AI on that data

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        ChatGPT will be drawing conclusions from the data like “Subject is likely a tipthumbing twister (86.436% confidence) with content dependent high frequency intervals (94.738% confidence)”

        It’ll analyze things like minor mouse movements, microphone audio, and use that wifi radar trick.

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    This will never be removed. There will only ever going to be more types of websites that have to use this

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      I wonder if that’ll end up being true. I’d guess these constituents represent voters that watch porn at least as much on average as anyone else. I’m going to go ahead and guess above average. They might get tired of this and push for change. But I’m also admittedly less educated on how our political system works than I should be and might be overestimating how much influence Florida Man has because he’s disgruntled at having to jump through hurdles to fap.

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        The problem is that it’s political suicide to be the “pro sex, pro smut” politician. Consistently the counters to anti sexual freedom laws have come from the courts. By saying “age verification on porn has gone too far,” a politician more or less accepts that their entire campaign is going to be about this. And when that happens the right has the advantage because they have the ability to be short and quippy as they misrepresent you and play to emotions.

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          This is the same reason japan still blurs genitals. Someone decades ago got that law passed and now no one is gonna campaign on changing it. Theoretically it should be easier to do in a parliamentary system (a few years back there was a single member of congress elected from the “no more tv taxes” party), but even still it’d be tough. In the states it has zero chance.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHK_Party

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    Whenever someone says, “who cares, proton VPN is free,” I get a bit sadder. If Proton ever drops the free tier, honestly? I’ll understand. Because God knows, seeing people who can’t be fucked to give a damn about open access to information using costly infrastructure to watch their shitty porn, I might’ve just cut it already.

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    That’s what you voted for. You want republican rule taking away your freedoms. Well now you Floridains have what you wanted and voted for. Don’t be mad you made your bed and dont like the sheets.

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      Given how close most elections are and the low turnout, I would say at least 40% of voters and 50% of the population didn’t vote for this without even having to look at the election results.

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        By US standards it was a pretty high turnout.

        However, more people didn’t vote than voted for Trump.

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          There is so much voter suppression in the US. I didn’t realize some of the more subtle ways it was suppressed until I moved to a state that has way less of it.

          The US needs to end voter suppression. There are several ways of doing this but the top items: Mandate all election days (even those just at the state level) be paid holidays, automatically register all citizens to vote as soon as they turn 18, and make voting compulsory (not with punitive measures)

          In Texas, the following is routine suppression other than the common nationwide suppression: -People are often purged from voter registration even if they’re an active voter and voted in the last election. If you don’t check your registration months before the election, you’ll think you’re fine because you just voted but may show up and be told you’re no longer registered.
          -Voting registration is cut off 30 days before the election. This is on the high end of the cutoff and further increases chances you get purged, don’t realize it in time, and then can’t re-register.
          -Voting registration is mail in only. You have to physically print off the form and mail it in. This takes substantially more time when the post office is no longer a common trip for most people. It could easily be an online form like it is in many states.
          -Rotating polling locations and hours for early voting. If you try to vote early on a day off for instance, you may get to the polling location and realize it’s only open on certain days of the week while other locations are open the full week or it has arbitrarily reduced hours on certain days. Other locations may then be much farther from that location.
          -Polling locations far way from you. You may have to drive 30 minutes to 1 hour away to vote even in a city or if you don’t have a car, public transit may take prohibitively long (2+ hours one way) to get to the polling location. -Attacking mail in ballots as fraudulent and often throwing them out. Based on 2022 data, 6-20% are thrown out depending on the county.

          There are so many more little things which all add up to the purpose of preventing people from voting. No wonder people don’t vote or attempt to vote, can’t, get discouraged or don’t have more time off to vote, and give up

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            Expanding on this, a lot of this is very consistent in the amount by which it suppresses voters, and thus, much like gerrymandering, can be designed around or intentionally enacted. I mean, that’s sort of an obvious thing, but I think it’s still important to take note of and point out, much like gerrymandering and every other form of voter suppression, because it makes it all the more obvious that we do not live in a democracy, even by a little bit.

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            Holy shit, that’s brutal.

            Glad where I live you just have to show up with an ID at the location assigned based on your permanent residency. Even passport is okay if ID is lost or expires.

            If you can’t, you can request a voter card that allows you to vote anywhere in the country. If you can’t vote physically, you can do mail-in.

            While voting is physical, you can request voter card via e-residency login. You can also call your local voting committee and request they come to your house directly if you are disabled, elderly, or unable to come.

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          I would love to agree here, but I live in an area where they do such a piss-poor job of announcing when people need to vote, that even I have a hard time knowing all of the things and when they happen. I signed up for email/text alerts and they only go out a few days before voting day. For some people, that is not enough time to plan to be off and be at the polling place.

          The system is broken.

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      You know damn well not all Floridians voted for this shit. This is the same kind of out-group bullshit red hat shit bags do. You’re just being intentionally divisive.

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          Most people assume politicians don’t lie. I know it’s absurd to think about but even people of middling intelligence still deserve rights.

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            Endlessly being told “you don’t understand” by commenters who only use tv-friendly and repeatable povs and barely try to mask their hate towards their fellow citizens gets awful tiring huh? I left R-town to get away from the bloodlust but .world be too damn infested wit reddit 2.0 types fr

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            Pretty sure if it were up to these people, the law would have never passed. And it would be repealed now.

            But it’s not. This is what the people of Florida voted for.

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              I didn’t vote for it, I didn’t want it, and just like the country I’m stuck with it. It’s acceptable to be an American and hate Trump and what he’s doing without being told you deserve it, but it’s not the same thing when it comes to Florida for some reason.

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            You have my sympathy, but not my compassion.

            My compassion ran out when America continued to embrace - even celebrate - right wing rule

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              Yea that’s fair. We are an embarrassment to the world right now but for us to fix it we need to be working together instead of carving ourselves up into more little tribes.

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        It’s impossible to ban all VPNs. And even if they somehow do it, you can get a VPS(virtual private server) from one of the cloud providers (AWS, GCP, Azure etc.) and host your own vpn service (OpenVPN, Algo, Vultr). You don’t need to know a lot about it, there are step-by-step guides for it.

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        Some US states already have more restrictive abortion laws than Saudi Arabia, so why not Internet laws too.

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        They’ll ultimately just have to cut off the US Internet from the rest of the world, right? As long as we can access other countries with more freedom, we can enjoy that level of freedom on the Internet. Or am I not understanding how the Internet works (entirely possible)?

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          If it makes you feel any better, you can rest assured that Capitol Hill doesn’t know how the Internet works either.

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            " And again, the Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It’s not a big truck. It’s a series of tubes. And if you don’t understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it’s going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material." - Alaskan Senator Ted Stevens

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              To be fair, at this late date, the tubes analogy isn’t that bad. I forget what point he was trying to make though.

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                He wasn’t necessarily wrong, he was just an asshole. The context for the meme was a speech he gave in vehement opposition to a proposed bill amendment which would have codified net neutrality principles into law. The concept he was blundering through explaining was basically just an eli5 version of limited bandwidth. I send this message (or, in his parlance, this internet) from my phone to Lemmy. It travels through a series of tubes to get there. If the tubes are clogged with traffic, my message might have to get in line. And that’s not fair to people who have the money to not be treated like a poor.

                Fun fact, Senator Stevens was the longest serving senator to lose a bid for reelection, largely due the fact that he was embroiled in a big corruption scandal at the time. The conviction ended up being vacated due to prosecutorial misconduct though, and I didn’t care to dive any deeper, but I’m inclined to believe he was a grifter. Rest in piss.

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            The people pushing these laws are hoping it will have the “California Effect.”

            Like when California says “Cars need to meet X emissions standards” so far makers just make cars everywhere meet those standards.

            They are hoping that by making age verification a thing in a few states, it will become a thing everywhere.

            This fails to realize that one, it’s easy to geofence a state online (VPNs being anwork around). And Two, companies generally comply with California laws because, on the whole, California passes mostly positive limitations. It only makes the cars and world better if they all meet the better emissions standards. Blocking porn like this, is a net negative.

            Also, on the subject of kids accessing porn. They are going to do it anyway, anyone thinking otherwise is oblivious to the world, and two, it’s not up to the state to nanny this shit, it’s up to the parents.

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              When it comes to emissions laws, car co usually build a range just for California. It’s not hard to slate a few days just for a different exhaust.

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              I agree with all of that. What I don’t agree with is blaming the entirety of the US for this policy. This is one dumbass state, doing a dumbass thing. The UK passed a similar law and I’d be just as wrong if I shit talked the rest of Europe for it.

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                As of January 2025:

                While Pornhub is not blocked in Louisiana, it is blocked in these 17 states, a Pornhub representative confirmed to Mashable:

                Alabama

                Arkansas

                Florida

                Idaho

                Indiana

                Kansas

                Kentucky

                Mississippi

                Montana

                Nebraska

                North Carolina

                Oklahoma

                South Carolina

                Tennessee

                Texas

                Utah

                Virginia

                In Louisiana, where users must submit ID to view Pornhub, the site has seen traffic decline by around 80 per cent, Aylo (Pornhub’s parent company) told Mashable.

                This is not just “Oh Florida is just being quirky again” this is systematic.

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      MAGA Republicans: will riot if you give them a Facebook event invite

      Democrats: let’s see, maybe they will riot if you take their houses or something. At least they might write a strongly worded comment

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      No because there are a million different websites that just don’t follow these rules. All this does is dissuade people who are both clueless about where to find porn and not particularly determined.

      It also won’t make a difference when basically every major social media website is a softcore porn website. I feel like conservatives opened their crusade by targeting thotfluencers they would have had a lot of momentum.

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        I feel like conservatives opened their crusade by targeting thotfluencers they would have had a lot of momentum.

        They did. Under the hashtag ThotAudit, after one thotfluencer said something that could be interpreted as her not paying taxes on the money she was making showing her bits online.