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Okay so first technically that’s not true. It’s possible.
But Elon 100% did that shit on purpose.
Well, you can say that, but of course people do. It’s not like it’s a completely bizarre movement of the arm. It happens now and then and people are demonized because of it. I really don’t mean to defend Elon Musk, because I really wouldn’t mind him being guillotined, but to claim that everyone that’s been accused of doing a nazi salute, has intentionally done a nazi salute, is rather bizarre. We really don’t need this, in order to hate on Musk, he’s got all the hateability checks. There are plenty reasons that are far beyond any debate that would make him one of the most hated people on earth, and he deserves all of that. But the ‘see, it’s a nazi, here’s the proof <shows salute clip>’ won’t convince anyone that’s not already on board on hating him. The argument that it’s immoral to have over 400 billion, and that if he was a reasonable person he would give some shares to his employees, or lower prices, or distribute his money in power in whatever way possible because only a power hungry narcisistic maniac would hoard all this power, or whatever, is, I think, far more convincing than focussing on this awkward hand gesture.
How fucking scary is it that the richest person in the world is a fucking nazi piece of shit and now one of our supreme leaders? If you ask the people around me, “meh.”
Honestly none of them strike me as true adherents. They just go whichever direction looks like it will give them more power or money. If there is a next administration or some BLM like cause comes back in vogue you’ll see them out there preaching to that choir as if they had always supported that cause.
While I agree most of them do whatever they believe will result in more money and power, BLM was a leftist cause so the only time they would support it (or anything inherently leftist) is if their propaganda magically started to fail and their base rejected them over their stance.
I’m an outsider looking in, but isn’t that still a problem? The unchecked capitalism which has now created an oligarchy in the US with the media and government being controlled by the richest of the rich? They’re so sure no one can do anything about it any more that they manipulate overtly and don’t even try to hide what they’re doing.
Seeing what’s happening in the US is very worrying.
you are absolutely correct. I’m terrified for my family’s future.
That’s because he’s the type of moron that shoots himself cleaning his own gun.
Are you referring to the loser neo-Nazi Oath Fucking Keeper? That is how the dipshit lost his eyeball.
OK hear me out.
A prolific bird watcher has been trying to spot a rare bird on a hot summer day. He’s been shading his brow with his hand for hours to avoid the sun.
His spouse approaches to see how he’s doing. Suddenly the bird appears! And the man, in his excitement tries to indicate to his wife to “Look up there in the sky” but his hand is still locked into the brow sunlight defence position! Oh no!
Fuck Elon Musk though. Fucking Nazi.
Is he doing some sort of soccer hand signals?
Yep. There was a myriad of options to end such speech, including humble waving or nice gestures.
No, that Nazi chose to show a Nazi salute. It was intentional and calculated.
This dude practiced in front of a mirror.
This springs to mind:
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
Thus begins four years of trolling. Did he? Didn’t he?
What if you’re really drunk and you’re trying to hail a cab but you can’t rustle up enough strength to get your arm outside of the danger zone?
He wasn’t drunk or hailing a cab so I don’t know what you are getting at.
That it is possible to do it accidentally. But a normal person would realize their mistake and apologize profusely.
What Elon did was a nazi salute, and Elon is a nazi.
Back in the early days of Trump 1.0, I was accused of accidentally making a nazi salute. I raised a pint glass in cheers with no open palm (a drinking glass was in my hand). This wasn’t a nazi salute, but people were so keyed up to overreact and attack their friends and coworkers that it didn’t matter.
People are not taking Elon’s salute seriously because our society has lost its ability to take such accusations seriously. People remember the overreaction and baseless accusations being flung between people who should have had solidarity in Trump 1.0, and that undermines trust in similar claims today. This jadedness gives cover for the actual mask-off nazism in Trump 2.0.
People are so used to finding out that an accused nazi salute from the clickbait article was just someone trying to say cheers or making an awkward hand gesture that it takes extra evidence now to convince them that the AfD-supporting billionaire that just bought an election actually did a full nazi salute starting from the chest with no other justification (and then repeated it).
Did you explain your position following such accusations or did you do what he’s doing which is attacking everyone?
I wasn’t given an opportunity, and I ended up leaving the job in question due to hostility and violence.
im sorry that happened to you. that mist have been awful and i believe you.
Thank you.
That was far from the worst thing that happened to me at that job. When I think of that job and why I left it, this incident barely registers.
The reason I’m talking about it now is that the experience has biased me. When I first read that Elon gave a nazi salute, my first reaction was doubt due to this bias. Watching the clip cleared my doubt.
And more to the point, no one stumbles into an extreme-right event, gives a hyper reactionary speech, and does two nazi salutes by mistake.
The media that’s helping Musk gaslight everyone should be ashamed of themselves.
With no intention to defend Elon Musk… Jude Bellingham doing a Nazi salute by mistake and Toni Kroos lowering his arm.
In any case to me Elon’s gesture looks very much intentional(either because he wanted to stir the pot or he actually means it), and even if there is doubt, he is not the kind of man that deserves benefit of the doubt.
Can’t upvote the post at the moment. It’s at 666 votes.
I like boost
So good. I had his reddit app before. Functionality and customizations are the best.
Just went to LinkedIn just to see bottom of the barrel bootlickers defending him.
” He’s autistic”, ” that picture is taken out of context”, ” it’s a Roman salute”, ” look at these out of context pictures of other politicians making the gesture”, ” how can he be a Nazi if he supports Israel?”
No he did a full on deliberate Nazi salute at a far right event.
The Roman salute is also known as the fascist salute. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_salute
It’s the oath of the Horatii and asterix - both well known for being reliable historical sources
there is no proof in roman writing or painting of this salute, there is no doubt about Musolinis fascist movement using it in 1919 and later the german nazis adopting it
I’m genuinely curious: who the fuck defends Elon and Nazis on LinkedIn? Are we so far divided as a country that it’s ok to associate employment with a penchant for Nazism?
Probably simps who can’t accept that Elon isn’t the real life Tony Stark they thought him to be.
And nazis don’t forget the nazis
Is there any difference at this point?
Just because you’re delusional doesn’t make it true.
You’re spreading lies about Elon. Deceptive manipulating liar.
It’s not bootlicking, it’s just being a decent person
Go back to sleep troll
What lies are being spread?
What’s decent about defending a Nazi?
He’s not a nazi. It’s questionable at best. And yet you guys go out of your way to shout that he’s a nazi
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He looks like a Nazi
Talks like a Nazi
Acts like a NaziWhat would convince you?
That he did something that’s actually bad.
Like killing people.
But just reaching his hands in the air once that might be related Nazism
He’s posted in support of far-right extremists in Germany and the UK multiple times, he’s ‘liked’ antisemitic posts on his shitshow of a site, he’s used avatars that are used by the alt and far right. And now he’s done this. A nazi salute. He’s a nazi. Nobody needs to ‘go out of their way’ to call him a nazi when everything he says and does shouts the fact from the fucking rooftops.
He’s not a nazi. You think he’s a member of the nazi party? Show me these terrible tweets your talking about
Surely we can find hints that somebody is a Nazi before we find out that they’ve killed people.
But jumping to conclusions is bad right?
There’s definitely interpretation to this gesture he did. This doesn’t make him a nazi. The people aggressively trying to push the users that he’s a nazi are acting more like Nazis than him.
This could be a mistake or a silly blunder or even just him trying to throw his affection out. But people shouting and screaming, calling people names and being derogatory is disturbing
do the gesture and post it on here if it’s not a nazi gesture
do you have the same outrage for the genocide in Gaza?
ad hominem fallacy
You’re attacking me instead of making an argument.
Do you not have an argument. Manipulative and deceitful.
I guess you think Elon putting his hand in the air is worse than genocide in Gaza?
Women and children dying daily yet a guy putting his hand in the air is worse and causes more hysteria.
You guys are kind of evil.
Care to elaborate?
He made a heart thrown out gesture and now there’s all this hysteria probably artificial. That states he’s a nazi for one at the very least questionable event. Yet people are treating him like he’s gasing the Jews
Nazism isn’t limited to hating Jews. They were targeting other marginalized groups at the time. This time they’re targeting a different set of groups, most notably transgender people.
The Nazis targeted the trans community the first time around too. Camps, death squads, the whole nine yards…
There was a big chunk of scientific research on the topic that was simply lost because it was literally burned.
I’ve got to say I don’t like that he likes posts that are anti trans. There’s no need for that.
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I’m autistic, I’ve never done this gesture. Everyone’s different, of course, but I’ve never seen anyone at all do this by accident. I’ve seen the defence that it’s a “from my heart to yours” gesture, but if that was true, it would be palm up. Palm up is the giving gesture. Palm down is a saluting gesture.
Yeah, excusing it by saying he’s autistic is ableist by itself. We’re not incapable of understanding dog whistles or concepts, you know?
Especially when people in the same breath call Elon a genius. You can’t have it both ways. Either he’s clueless and shouldn’t be in a position of power, or he’s actually a nazi… and shouldn’t be in a position of power
