You guys are lucky to have AOC. I’m a non-American that only knows her from memes and screenshots like this but I’m a fan. Especially compared to all the other dead fish.
I’m not an American, but isn’t the problem not just the presidency? Like, even if she becomes president if the supreme court, congress, senate are republican controlled she’d be kneecapped.
I was on the fence about them for past shenanigans but this is the final nail in the coffin. My friends are now telling me that musk did not, in fact do a Nazi salute because his fingers weren’t pointed the right way
There really isn’t a proper performance. Many nazi officials simply raised their hand palm facing away from them over their right shoulder. Generally at rallies touching your chest on the left hand side and then raising your right arm straight out with palm angled down and away from you is the basic salute. He did that. Twice.
It’s quite common in old photos to see people’s hands dipping a bit doing it. Almost making a like cup shape with the hand. Hard to hold your hand aloft like that for long periods of time. Also not uncommon to see hands turned slightly or completely sideways. What doesn’t vary is the intent. It is a salute in the traditional sense. The fact he did it facing the flag is by itself more than damning enough. You don’t wave at flags, you salute them.
Source: it helps to know a lot about your enemies and their rituals. Also I have a thing for modern history.
Almost like taking still shots of someone in motion can make them look like they’re doing crazy shit… So how about you make them gifs instead so we can see the context?
No, the one that’s a fragrant Nazi salute vs the possible subtle dog whistles. We’re at a point where American leaders aren’t afraid to do a full blown Nazi salute on stage on live television.
Zionism is the same kind of ideology as Nazis, just with different “superior races” (“the chosen people”) whom they claim to represent and sub-humans (“human animals”) whom they claim to be both inferior and a danger to them.
So it’s absolutely natural for a pro-Zionist organization to side with other Nazi-like ideologies as long as the “superior” and “subhuman” ethnicities of both do not collide, and in this case they both share the view of the Northern African Islamic people as subhumans and they probably see their own “superior” races as being a kind of White - so White Jews and White Christians (if you have any doubt of this for the Zionist side, go check out how Israel treats Ethiopian Jews).
just to give historical context, Germany, Japan and Italy supported each other in their nazi-fascism for the exatc reason you already said. So there is no surprise that it is happening again with America and Israel
They just figure that this time, Jews will be far down enough on the list of “first they came for…” that MAGA will burn itself out before it gets to them.
The ADL is defending him. Bootlickers.
You guys are lucky to have AOC. I’m a non-American that only knows her from memes and screenshots like this but I’m a fan. Especially compared to all the other dead fish.
I honestly fear for her safety.
If I was her I would be leaving the country tonight
If she isn’t the next Dem presidential candidate, then they might as well shut their fucking doors right now.
I’m not an American, but isn’t the problem not just the presidency? Like, even if she becomes president if the supreme court, congress, senate are republican controlled she’d be kneecapped.
Yes, but none of that other stuff will be possible without somebody worth voting for.
The choice will say a lot about the party. Change it from the “more of the same” party to the “let’s fix this shit” party.
Fuck the ADL
I was on the fence about them for past shenanigans but this is the final nail in the coffin. My friends are now telling me that musk did not, in fact do a Nazi salute because his fingers weren’t pointed the right way
Ask your friends why they’re so familiar with the proper performance of the nazi salute.
There really isn’t a proper performance. Many nazi officials simply raised their hand palm facing away from them over their right shoulder. Generally at rallies touching your chest on the left hand side and then raising your right arm straight out with palm angled down and away from you is the basic salute. He did that. Twice.
It’s quite common in old photos to see people’s hands dipping a bit doing it. Almost making a like cup shape with the hand. Hard to hold your hand aloft like that for long periods of time. Also not uncommon to see hands turned slightly or completely sideways. What doesn’t vary is the intent. It is a salute in the traditional sense. The fact he did it facing the flag is by itself more than damning enough. You don’t wave at flags, you salute them.
Source: it helps to know a lot about your enemies and their rituals. Also I have a thing for modern history.
Yeah, i stand corrected on that point. Him doing so first doesn’t really change the salute itself.
I’d say 50/50 odds that he tries to claim it was a Bellamy Salute or something.
Lol.
There’s video kiddo.
He did it more than once. With zeal.
It was not a still image captured as he waved to the crowd. No matter how much you want it to be.
Oh no here comes the downvotes because this place is exactly like Reddit.
Nah we hate Nazi’s here.
Feel free to return to Reddit. This is not your Lebensraum.
You should get footage of all those moments. Be neat to see em all lined up. Write up a nice summary of the context for each one.
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Almost like taking still shots of someone in motion can make them look like they’re doing crazy shit… So how about you make them gifs instead so we can see the context?
Also, make sure to add this one:
Googled it earlier to see, says the heart motion is never involved, that’s the American pledge salute
Nobody does the Bellamy salute anymore and I want you think think very hard about why.
No need to think. One can just read:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute
Also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_salute (also known as Fascist salute)
Quit trying to muddy the waters - we have eyes and everyone knows that Musk is a Nazi.
Show me a video of them throwing and holding any kind of salute and not waving. You can skip Hillary.
What’s that mean, skip the one you know I’d find first? Whatever, bud, done here with you.
No, the one that’s a fragrant Nazi salute vs the possible subtle dog whistles. We’re at a point where American leaders aren’t afraid to do a full blown Nazi salute on stage on live television.
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Point one finger upwards at their face.
Same ADL that says anti-genocide protests are categorically foreign agents funded by Iran and Hamas.
Disappointing that the only funding they gave my local protest was sidewalk chalk and some home printed flyers to tape up.
Same here, AIPAC lobbied against a locally popular Rep after they criticized Israel though. It worked and they lost their seat to a more friendly Rep.
the ADL
Anti-Defamation League, a Jewish non-governmental organization based in the USA
… will now be known as the “Advanced Defamations League”
the ADL is a zionist organization that supports genocide. they’re not bootlickers. they’re the sole of the boot itself.
Even Hilter has his Jewish supporters Verband nationaldeutscher Juden
History doesn’t always rhyme sometimes it repeats the exact beats.
ADL do not care about anti semitism at all. Their only concern is anti zionism.
Zionism is the same kind of ideology as Nazis, just with different “superior races” (“the chosen people”) whom they claim to represent and sub-humans (“human animals”) whom they claim to be both inferior and a danger to them.
So it’s absolutely natural for a pro-Zionist organization to side with other Nazi-like ideologies as long as the “superior” and “subhuman” ethnicities of both do not collide, and in this case they both share the view of the Northern African Islamic people as subhumans and they probably see their own “superior” races as being a kind of White - so White Jews and White Christians (if you have any doubt of this for the Zionist side, go check out how Israel treats Ethiopian Jews).
just to give historical context, Germany, Japan and Italy supported each other in their nazi-fascism for the exatc reason you already said. So there is no surprise that it is happening again with America and Israel
Just when I thought the ADL couldn’t be anymore useless, here’s REAL Anti-Semitism and they’re not doing anything about it.
Worse than not doing anything about it, they’re excusing it
I mean, i didn’t have Latina’s calling it nazi and Jews being like “nuh uh” on my 2025 bingo card
They just figure that this time, Jews will be far down enough on the list of “first they came for…” that MAGA will burn itself out before it gets to them.
That’s sadly a viable strategy if you’re cis.
Are their last words going to be “see? You were overreacting.” right before someone pushes a button on their gas chamber?
Or have they already booked their tickets to some recently-confiscated house in the West Bank?
Neither. They have money. They will not be subjected to the gas chambers and will live their lives free of consequences.
these gas lights aren’t even lit. why are you making such a big deal?
Good for AOC, but I honestly fear for her safety in the coming years. I hope she can stay safe.
It wouldn’t be a delicate situation if ONE GROUP WASN’T DOING NAZI SHIT