• yerluvinunklebert@lemmynsfw.com
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              How are you even remotely serious about this line of questioning? I’m not going to entertain someone who considers the far right to be the better option. You utter moron.

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                I don’t think they are a good option but your attitude right now sums up why Democrats lost to the person they claimed was the biggest moron of all time. Remember that whenever you call someone a moron, that you’ve proved to be an even bigger moron already.

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                  Remember that whenever you call someone a moron, that you’ve proved to be an even bigger moron already.

                  So you’re calling them a moron?

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                  Im not American. I dont need to remember anything about the ridiculous things you have said. You are clearly and plainly a moron. The democrats lost because a lot of Americans are morons like you. The vast majority of every developed country if the planet has been rolling their eyes at your stupidity for decades. Amazingly, you doubled down and made it worse at every step. Now you have nazis in charge, and you blame Kamala. I honestly don’t know if there has ever been someone more stupid than you.

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            Not all Democrat voters, but a lot were incapable of even acknowledging that Genocide Joe was in mental decline before he dropped out. Heck some of them are still convinced he would have won despite the campaign now acknowledging that they predicted Trump would have gotten 400 electoral college votes had he stayed in.

            Rather than have a quick primary to find a replacement, they coronated another genocide supporter. This was wholly unpopular with the public & people most likely to vote Democrat, with recent polls suggesting had Kamala deviated from Biden on Israel that she could have got 13 million more votes.

            When people reminded them how unpopular genocide was before the election they were quick to ban or censor any dissenting opinions on the subject, rather than to call for Kamala to do anything different. They censored & ridiculed the most sensible voices which ended up costing them the election.

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              None of this supports your assertion that the commenter above helped get Trump elected?

              recent polls suggesting […]

              I’d like to see those polls. This doesn’t really make much sense to me. If you wanted someone to reduce casualties in Israel, why would you vote for Trump?

              There were people protesting about genocide outside democrat rallies. Weird that no one was protesting about that outside Trump rallies.

              I think it’s a grave mischaracterization to say dissenting opinions on genocide were banned or censored. Since the dawn of time, campaigning politicians haven’t wanted to talk about issues that they’re unable or unwilling to solve.

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                I didn’t vote for Trump, but I didn’t vote for the genocide supporter Kamala either. I’ve saw countless opinions or any dissent when it came to Palestine get people banned from communities that were all pushing the same, “Kamala ran a flawless campaign” communities. Here you people are again unable to look in the mirror to figure out why you lost & helped Trump get reelected. You want to blame anyone & everyone, but can’t look in the mirror to figure out why you lost so much support.

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                  So you didn’t vote for Kamala, criticised her campaign, and are here accusing Dem supporters of helping Trump get elected.

                  Sorry mate that’s just all sorts of ass-backwards bonkers.

                  I don’t see many people saying that Kamala ran a flawless campaign. It’s pretty obvious that the Dems did a pretty terrible job, but to strut around saying everyone else helped Trump get elected just because they werent more critical of Kamala is just daft.

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                  Oh shit, the leaders of the Democratic Party are on Lemmy? No wonder they lost, I wouldn’t trust you Lemmings with running a gas station, never mind a country!

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      This, my friend, is a 400ton edgelord take. One could talk about the underlying analysis but my, your tone is the first thing that strikes me. No one Hi will suffer under this administration would understand this. Fishing for purity-vs-sheeples won’t help anyone.

      P. S. : In my book, the dems are awful, and I’m not even an US citizen, so I’m not directly concerned.

      I just hope you’re very young and will regret your wording one day.

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        Did I say that? It sounds like you were part of the blue MAGA genocide-supporting crowd that helped him get re-elected.

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          Dude we didn’t vote for this asshole as part of the blue crowd. How the fuck you think the blue maga supporting crowd even exists because it doesn’t.

          I mean sure you might be one of the trolls doing a psyops but what the actual fuck horrible take is that.

          This shit logic: Oh you’re going to vote for someone that is currently slapping you in the face. Well if you support that you might as well just vote for the people that are going to shoot you in the face. So fucking dumb.

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              There’s a little tiny hill with a little tiny you dying quietly of ignorance.

              Nobody is taking you seriously dude.

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                No, no one is taking Democrats seriously anymore because of people like you which is why they lost… to Donald Trump

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              I mean, their notification window must be stacked, probably easy to miss this one. Also did I see they got banned somewhere else in this thread for trolling?

              They seem to have a pretty strong opinion on this so I’m interested to hear what they think the actual solution is (or was assuming that line of attack isn’t open any more).

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      Everyone funded a genocide. If you paid taxes, you did too.

      I’m not trying to excuse Biden for his love for Israel and material support for them, but singling out “the opposing party” as the issue here is missing the method of reform that’s actually going to fix it. The issue is American politics and media, and the American system. Let’s fix that. If you thought singling out the Democrats as the problem that needed to be got rid of was going to fix it, brother just wait, because you succeeded and your plan is going into action as of now.

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      Yes, the person seeing a literal Nazi salute from someone Trump is giving a lot of authority to, and using that as an excuse to attack the Democrats instead of saying “this is fucked up”, is definately very concerned about genocide…

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      When the opposing party funded a genocide the election was literally rigged this is what you get ftfy

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      Wait, are we allowed to call them Nazis yet? Or is it still unnecessary vitriol?

        • Could people please just read a little bit of history before commenting on it? Please?

          Yes, the full formal name of the Nazi party was Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers’ Party). Yes that name has “socialist” in it.

          But you know what? North Korea is the 조선민주주의인민공화국 (Democratic People’s Republic of Korea). Are we to take it as read, then, that you think North Korea is democratic? (Or that it gives a shit about the People?) No?

          Extrapolate that to the Nazis.

          It’s well known in history circles that extend one micro-step away from simplistic high school history that the word “socialist” was put into the Nazi Party’s name because they were trying, in their early days, to siphon members from other socialist groups. This is called “branding”. You label yourself in ways that makes you sound like what people want, get them on your side, then turn into what you want. Do you want another example for a political party instead of a nation? Canada’s old “Progressive Conservative Party of Canada” would be a case in point. I mean the name is a literal contradiction in terms, but I guess because it says “progressive” they must have been a progressive party, right? RIGHT!?

          Here are a few more names that are flat-out lies:

          • Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (neither liberal, nor democratic)
          • Democratic Republic of the Congo (just like the DPRK, this place isn’t even remotely democratic)
          • The United States Taxpayers Party (now Constitution Party, was never about Taxpayers and always about what would now be alt-right policies)
          • The Sustainable Australia Party (named like it’s about the environment, is really anti-immigration)
          • The American Independent Party (named to fool people into thinking they’re registering as independents, but is really a far right party)
          • The Social Democratic Party (sounds left-wing, but is really centrists who broke off from the UK’s Labour Party)

          That list could go on for a very long time, but I hope by now you can understand how anybody who actually opened a history book would laugh at “the socialist part”.

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        It used to be okay to kill Nazi’s on sight, as they are not only a threat to National Security, but a threat to humane values itself. Our grandfathers watched people die in droves for the chance to kill a Nazi. Now? You’ll probably be shot or arrested by police for killing a Nazi.

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          Now? You’ll probably be shot or arrested by police for killing a Nazi.

          Yes of course. Nazis are going to protect their own.

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    Guys you are just too left. Under any other circumstance a nazi salute and flirting eith AfD is considered leftist by a comfortable margin.

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          Because you don’t have to be smart to have a lot of money. I knew a kid in school, couldn’t spell ‘phone’, had his mom do all his homework and projects, never took SATs, dumb as shit. He’s an exec at JP Morgan now.

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        Dumb people have a lot of undeserved confidence in themselves. Smart people are rarely 100% sure if anything because everything is complicated.

        Guy caught a lucky break at the right time and thinks he’s king shit on turd Island

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      I can’t even express in words how fucking stupid and cringe this guy is… That comic is some shit I would have found clever when I was 12 years old and my understanding of politics was 100% shaped by the Fox News that was constantly playing in my house. Imagine being a full-formed adult human, and thinking this was some kind of deep thought.

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    This is ego-boasting, partisan intimidation and humiliation, right?

    My instinct to this is to look away, scroll past, because it can’t be happening…

    Anti-fascism in the US is in no way equipped to politically deal with this.

    The strategic alternative doesn’t really exist…

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    Imagine how minimally functional your brain has to be to think this is anything other than a blatant sieg heil.

    Now wrap your mind around the majority of voting Americans voting for this future.

    The only advice I can give anyone at this point is to not hold too much hope for the future of this nation. Lower your expectations. It’ll help you get through what’s coming.

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    I speculated a short while back that with Musk’s true dream of immortality seeming less plausible every year, he has turned his sights on being remembered by history.

    I think I was right, and some sort of drug fueled edgelord logic has led him to conclude that fear is strong and universal, and being a cacking villain gets your name to “stick” with people the most.

    Or his ridiculous luck has given him the world’s worst case of Main Character syndrome, and the game play that amuses his fried brain involves griefing the NPCs.