And who decided to change the manual to include warnings to not drink the battery?
It sure as hell wasn’t my generation.
50 years ago was 1985.
Feeling old yet?/remindme in ten years
*40 🙃
Fifty years ago was 1940?
Sounds about right, now I feel less old, thanks 😌
Ah yes, when basically the only electronics in a car were the head and tail lights. I can assemble and disassemble a Willy jeep or VW Beatle by just looking at it and going with the flow, I have no fucking clue how to disassemble a modern car’s door panel without breaking anything.
But if we’re comparing us to boomers, let’s see who’s better at building a simple web scraping tool in python which runs on a raspi without any knowledge of python, Linux, AI and how to setup a raspberry pi. It took me a day to figure out.
That’s the thing that hasn’t changed: Some folks have a DIY attitude/initiative and others have a defeatist mentality.
I have no doubt that if you took someone from 50 years ago who could disassemble their car’s engine and put it back together again and raised them up in today’s environment they’d be the ones learning Python and how to fool around with Linux.
Maybe amateur radio folks (from 50 years ago) would be more appropriate for the analogy but you get the idea. Smarts and ignorance are orthogonal concepts.
Yeah, whatever we do differently now is because of new knowledge. Not because we’re smarter. It’s so annoying when conspiracy idiots say “how was this ancient primitive civilization able to build a pyramid, it must have been aliens” while the people back then were just as smart as we are now, but with less knowledge and technological advancements then we have today.
My previous comment is what I usually say to boomers who claim “the new generation is so dumb, they can’t even use a rotary phone anymore” or anything like that. Yeah grandpa, because we have smartphones now. In ancient Rome they built massive aquaducts, I’d like to see you try building one, with a chisel, which still stands over 3000 years later. You’re so dumb, you don’t even know how to do that while ancient Romans built them all across Europe.
It’s just grumpy old farts who are stuck in their midlife and now feel left behind and so much smarter and better than younger people while in reality being so extremity stubborn and ignorant.
No more boomerposting
if everyone has common sense back then we wouldn’t be in the middle of this shitshow today
OK boomer
And i still miss those old manuals… Just let me fix my car mate
I’llbe 100% honest, bud, but if you can’t find a service manual on the internet or simply ask at the dealership I probably wouldn’t trust you to do the work. They’re available, just try even a little. And boy if you trust what little information may or may not be in an owner’s manual…
Besides, the only reason that info was in there was because the valves needed much more frequent adjusting. You really shouldn’t miss not needing to have that information so readily available.
You’d be surprised how hard it is to find manuals these days.
Manufacturers have taken to:
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Not printing them at all
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Hiding them behind paywalls with exorbitant prices
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You can’t, because the previous generations allowed capitalism to ruin consumer goods with regulatory capture and planned obsolescence.
I mean, I’m pretty sure cars’ lifespans have generally increased over the years, despite not being able to easily tweak valves or what have you. So many older cars don’t have a 6th digit on the odometer because it was so common for a car to die after about 100,000 miles anyway. Now you might hit some issues, but that kind of mileage is basically your car’s equivalent of a person’s 40th birthday.
If I have to take the car to the dealership and only the dealership can fix my problem its not a car I want I’m gonna be real with you.
The only item in my Honda (that I am aware of) that requires dealership attention is calibrating the “Honda Sense” sensors if they get replaced. And that is because the equipment required is so expensive, only the dealership carries it.
Plus, the only time I needed that was when I was hit by someone and the sensor was replaced because the panels were replaced.
I can still do all the minor maintenance myself, it is just a LOT more convenient for me to let my mechanic do it.
Love my Honda. (Please bring back the Fit!)
Yes, technology does march forward. That doesn’t change the fact that many cars you’re not even allowed to touch yourself, even the few things you can fix that don’t require expensive speciality tools.
That doesn’t change the fact that many cars you’re not even allowed to touch yourself
I’ve touched myself in every car I’ve ever been in, but I’m something of a handyman.
That Uber driver was not amused
It’s time to resurrect the corolla in the backyard.
You can find service manuals online. I found the full blown 1,397 page OEM service manual for my '97 Prelude. For free. And failing that, there’s probably a YouTube video for it, especially if it’s not something incredibly rare.
The keyword is right there: 97. Anything after ~2014 and it’s a mess to find manuals, for older stuff i was able to easily find manuals and fix them no problem
Before Reagan
This is the best way I can put it.
Before Reagan was elected, middle class was defined as one income supporting a family of four. In those days $1 million was still considered a vast fortune. By the time Bush Sr. was voted out, middle class had been redefined as two incomes to run the house, and $1 million was what a rich guy paid for a party.
Are we boomer posting today?
Boomer-est image I’ve seen in a while
many engines do not require this procedure. It depends on whether the engine is equipped with hydro-compensators: these are devices designed for automatic adjustment of the thermal gap. They work at the expense of the oil entering them from the engine (that is why, actually, and are called “hydro-compensators”) and completely exclude the necessity of periodic manual adjustment of valves.
I’ve never met an engine that doesn’t need valve adjustments, even with hydraulic lifters.
Now the adjustment period is far longer today, like in the 100k miles range.
Just be glad you rarely see shim/bucket adjustment these days. Boy was that a bitch.
We’ve actually been misunderstanding the phrase this whole time. It’s not “common sense” and referring to things everyone should know; it’s actually “common cents” and is about those take-a-penny-leave-a-penny things. As in “when you’re just a little short, use some common cents.” 😌
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_sense
The origin of the term “common sense” is in the works of Aristotle.
Right, I’m sure Aristotle knew a lot about take-a-penny-leave-a-penny and cents… Unless you’re just memeing, in which case ignore me
Okay, Dad.
OK Tucker
It’s there because someone stupid fuck did it, and the car manufacturer don’t want to be legally responsible next time it happens.
It’s actually because valves were shit way back when and they are no longer something that the owner’s manual needs to explain. Many car manufacturers suck but this one is actually because they don’t anymore.
I’d make a “print a pdf” joke, but honestly, that’s already an unnecessary “skill”.
Sadly, technology has moved towards single finger usability and thrown out features in the process. Printing a PDF is now easy, because there’s a big button (that sells you a cloud subscription for some reason), but it’s also the only thing the app does.
PDFs are designed to be printed, that’s why they’re formatted as pages instead of continuous text like HTML. “Portable Document Format”. Unless I’m missing some reference you’re making here.
The joke to counter “you can’t even write cursive” and other boomer bs is “well at least I know how to print a PDF”, alluding to the abysmal tech intuition of some boomers, usually those in controlling roles like managers or CEOs.
Now the new skill is “print to pdf”
That comes out of the box with current versions of Windows. The era of Bullzip PDF Printer is gone.
Yet its still a surprise to many. But I suppose that’s a knowledge gap not a skill issue. Now getting younger folks these day to follow a file directory, that’s a true challenge.
top 10 reasons I have my printer firewalled from the WAN network
Last I checked, my generation didn’t put Reagan into office.
no, just trump
If you want to get technical it was largely folks who were adults during the regan presidency who trump in.
Trump is a symptom of a disease that Reagan was the harbinger of. Without Reagan and all that followed after him, you do not get a Trump presidency.
The butterfly effect so to say
More the dung beetle effect actually.
Sure Reagan’s an asshole. But do we really think the corporations wouldn’t have figured this out regardless?
My generation wasn’t much of his support but great job with the “voters who voted against this are also to blame” bullshit!
