Another reason to stay out of the usa. Not just anecdotal, we’re talking about a country where walking on a public street can be illegal, and people who do are sometimes called a slur.
Because cities aren’t for people to live in, they’re for cars to drive trough
Walking on a street can be illegal? How? Can you expand a bit on that, please?
There are jaywalking laws where you can be stopped for crossing against the light, against the right of way in general, etc. Not sure what the slur is. I think Jay used to be a mild insult?
I saw a cartoon on here once with an out-of-towner complaining about all the horse-carriages in this “Jay town” but I can’t find it.
Jay used to mean country folk. Jaywalking was walking on city roads like it was the country, because city roads are for cars where country roads had little, horse powered, transport
“Jay” is an old English slur. “Jaywalking” refers to walking on a public street illegally. For highways, it makes sense that you’re not supposed to walk there. But in America this “jaywalking” can even apply to city streets.
If you’re not in America, then it might just sound ridiculous. That’s because it is
Has anyone actually been charged with jaywalking in the past 50 years tho? I’ve never heard of anyone giving a shit in any town or city I’ve been to in the US
I’m in the Netherlands, I’m not bothered
“New York City’s jaywalking laws may seem obsolete, but the NYPD still tickets hundreds of people a year for the violation.” This JUST ended and jaywalking was made legal in NYC in October 2024. However this is a single city example. Jaywalking is still illegal and ticketed throughout the US. Especially if vagrancy laws were already removed, it’s a nice loop hole for cops to be able to harass homeless.
Ah, I must be too not-homeless, cuz that’s not my experience in NYC. Just another tool for oppression of undesirables then.
That’s someone being shot for being black. Were there no jaywalking law, the cops would have found another excuse
Nice bullshit headline that implies the cops are just so racist (gotta be sure they mention the jaywalker’s race, right?) that they saw a black guy jaywalking and just decided to gun him down for it. Meanwhile, from a better article:
At some point during the struggle, Reinhold grabbed hold of Israel’s gun in its holster. Duran shot Reinhold twice after he continued to resist arrest and kept his grip on the gun, prosecutors said.
The deputies gave voluntary statements to investigators that were corroborated by surveillance video, witnesses and forensic evidence, the letter said.
Gee, not so cut and dry after all, huh?
“Watch this, he’s going to jaywalk,” one of the cops says as they pull up to Reinhold.
The other responds, “Don’t make case law.”
Yes, it is cut and dry that they were planning on doing something horrible and using the jaywalking as an excuse to start the encounter.
I see you deleted your other bootlicking comment and replaced it with this one. Feel free to keep trying, bootlicker.
So if you actually read the article, that guy was shot because he ignored verbal instruction to return to the sidewalk, physically resisted being physically directed back to the sidewalk, and eventually tried to wrestle the cop’s gun out of his holster. This happened over a 12 minute span captured on multiple devices.
This fucking race-baiting sensationalist headline would have you believe cops saw a black guy jaywalking and just immediately opened fire because they’re just that racist apparently.
“Watch this, he’s going to jaywalk,” one of the cops says as they pull up to Reinhold.
The other responds, “Don’t make case law.”
The cops knew that they were going to escalate the situation from before the encounter ever started.
I’m european.
Walking on a highway is just plain dangerous, to not say stupid. On that context, it is justified. Crossing the road outside the zebra crossing can get you fined, as you are endangering yourself and others. We have those laws as well. But walking on city streets? I can’t remember one in the entire country which I can’t walk up and down.
A lot of America is made up of roads that most people would agree in isolation should only be crossed at designated/signaled areas. However, if your entire municipality is just made up of those roads and you don’t prioritize crossing areas, pedestrians will naturally cross illegally.
I lived in an apartment building that had a parking lot across the street. The nearest crosswalk was a few minutes walk in either direction. The owner tried to petition the city to add a crosswalk, but the laws prohibited too many crosswalks regardless of the practical needs. He even offered to pay for it himself. So, you had tons of people who lived there crossing illegally.
How many runovers?
None while I lived there, which was a few years. I had a close call once because people sped a lot, so the perceived distance wasn’t always reliable. Cops camped out not far from the area sometimes because it was instant tickets as a result.
Did they fine the speeders or the jaywalkers?
Yeah European roads are either stuck where they are for historical reasons or built to be safe.
Exactly, weird is it not?
Very.
For highways, it makes sense that you’re not supposed to walk there.
Americans have created such a large and dense web of highways that it is difficult to cross the street in some areas without walking miles in a given direction to reach a crosswalk.
Houston, in particular, has this bad. You can easily find yourself near a freeway or overpass that sends you on a 20-30 minute hike to cross the street.
I once got yelled at by a cop for walking across a nearly empty road in columbus Ohio.
The closest crosswalk was basically 1/4mile in either direction, because the building I was trying to enter is so large.
I was walking with a cane at the time. And no cars were anywhere close so a snail could have made it across with time to spare. It took some people close by stepping in and arguing for me before the Douchebag dropped it.
Im sure if I had looked my usual level of disheveled or had any other shade of skin I wouldn’t be so “lucky”
Contrast that with my country which has law state that if there is no crosswalk closer than 100 meters, you are allowed to cross the road, provided you do so carefully - not disturbing traffic etc. You do however
looselose all protections of the law during this, and you cannot pass if there is a suggestion you shouldn’t, for example a rail or some other barrier between sidewalk and road.
Why would anyone want to live in such a place?
A combination of inertia, the cost and difficulty of moving, and being lied to from birth about how amazing this country is and it’s the best country in the world and everyone else has it bad and are jealous of us, propaganda reinforced by daily recitations of our pledge of allegiance in school for twelve plus years.
And that’s not made up or exaggerated.
If I didn’t know the context I’d think you’re talking about north korea
It’s where my family and friends are.
I’m sorry to hear that
The land is (re: was) cheap
Fair fair
do you think redneck is a slur too?
how about dork?
What would your mom think?
In general, the US seems to be weirdly pro-violence.
Being beaten up is portrayed as perfectly normal in media and advocating for violence (like here) seems to be totally okay for many.
That’s fucked up.
It’s strange because we also have an extreme culture of litigation, and so much as an unwelcome or aggressive touch (without injury) could technically support a civil lawsuit or criminal charges for assault/battery.
The difference is that we apply justice differently depending on your political belief, so the acceptable violence is usually one-directional. Any violence by left protestors will be treated akin to terrorism. If you’re a right wing crazy harassing people protesting for a left cause, police will look the other way and you may not even be convicted for murder (e.g., Rittenhouse). Worse, the police are usually the ones being irrationally violent - like the George Floyd protests in which nonviolent civil protest was suppressed with military-level equipment, tactics and violence.
Breaking News: third world country has a corrupt legal system. Citizens shocked. More at 11.
It’s because we have a lot of repressed rage because we know deep down we really are one of the shittiest countries, despite what all the cousin-humping country singers keep caterwauling about.
Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.
I remember visiting another country as an American high-school student. We were shocked and overjoyed that BOOBIES could be shown on network television. It’s insane some of the violence that’s totally fine to show, but definitely not a woman’s nipple!
me when my unpaid full time job is to virtue signal on a bumper sticker sub reddit
Yeah, you seem totally different
They’re dunking on the mod for saying smashing a window = violence
Fuckcars was a reasonable community in the beginning but once karma farming started it went 0 tolerance quick. It’s like some militant vegan energy vampire mod saw the potential and took it. Now it’s some matrix situation where they feed off a constant flow of rage.
Reddit and mostly all “social” media only care about engagement. Psychologists have found out that negative information has a significantly higher chance of user engagement to respond (comment, share) than positive information
It’s why ragebait is so effective and why it’s everywhere (even Lemmy and BlueSky,)
I don’t mean to be pessimistic, but “Nobody cares about your protest” seems true. Fuck cars BTW
People who don’t care usually don’t bother decorating their cars with the thing they totally don’t care about.
If I saw this, I would shatter it… in Minecraft only, of course.
God, I feel the same. Then I started to wonder if I could find some of mark rober’s fart liquid and find some way to put it in a dissolvable capsule that I could place at the gap between the hood and the windshield.
Ah yes, the ol Minecraft defense. We almost had you.
I’m all for protests, but please don’t block major roadways or interstates.
emergency services use the same roads and your protest will kill someone. pile up on the sides of the road, throw paint balloons in the streets, throw your shit at cars passing by. I really don’t care.
just keep the streets clear for emergency services.
In Germany, if the protest was registered before, emergency services will avoid the roads and use alternative routes.
that’s great, wish they did that in the US.
Some asshole protesters were blocking the highway here in Seattle at one point and prevented me from getting to a vet appointment for my puppy with cancer.
Fuck people who block highways.
Every single protest I went to split to let emergency vehicles through.
Protests are supposed to be disruptive.
every protest I’ve seen on highways or streets smashed ambulances and cop cars trying to get through.
does that mean every protest is like that? no. does that mean we can’t all work together to ensure to protection of human life? no.
protests are supposed to be disruptive but don’t damage your message out of spite for society. target buildings or locations that speak to the movement. have a problem with the cops? surround every police station. have a problem with the city? block access to cityhall.
protests are meant to actually mean something, a defined message to the establishment that’s clear and easy for others to get behind.
everything else is just a riot.
everything else is just a riot.
which is based, actually
I’m all for protests but just don’t inconvenience anyone or apply any political pressure and obey the law and go back home and be good boys
now say that to the 8 year old that died on the way to the hospital because they were shot and waited for an ambulance for an hour.
go on, I’ll wait for your entitlement to clear up.
Let me hop into your imagination and talk to him
Then even so, racial injustice, climate change, genocide, and other such problems that are being protested about cause more harm than that all the time.
Nobody said it’s pleasant, only that it’s necessary and the only way to affect change
emergency services use the same roads and your protest will kill someone
As soon as law enforcement stops killing us for funsies I’ll start caring about the vague hypothetical that a neoliberal gets hurt by accident.
yes, let the five person family die in their house fire because you feel a smug sense of entitlement.
The irony of “i shouldn’t have to wait in traffic” guy calling us all entitled…
They didn’t say anything like that and you know it. At least don’t be disingenuous with your arguments.
ah yes I should make honest arguments like families of people burning to death and children getting killed from shootings because of protests.
I’m sure you are equally critical of that guy’s hyperbole
Whataboutism doesn’t change you putting words into that person’s mouth that they didn’t say.
tit for tat
first of all, I never said that. never even implied it.
second of all, I don’t drive asshole. I work from home 100% of the time.
I couldn’t care less if I have to sit in traffic.
However I DO care when innocent people are forced to suffer because of your entitled sense of superiority. I DO care when your willful ignorance tears families apart because you are filled with so much vitriol and hate for other people you’re willing to allow any number of people suffer just to prove a point.
get your shit together dude. don’t care how, don’t care where. just pack up all your fucking bullshit and fucking deal with it. deal with it before you need to go to a protest because anger had no place in a peaceful protest. anger and protests go together like police action and riots.
if you believe that a protest has to become violent to force action you’re a part of the problem and need to(you guessed it) get your shit together.
the irony just keeps thickening with you lol. I’m willing to let others suffer…
your face is peeling, I can see the troll under that mask.
easier to dismiss me as a troll than to realize how hypocritical you’re being. people protesting real worldwide issues like genocide to stop their government from actively engaging in it are self centered and only care about themselves but Mr. Liberal is righteously mad about being inconvenienced
Hot take: DON’T FUCKING BLOCK ROADS WHILE PROTESTING!!
There’s a difference if you announce prior the specific highways or roads that’ll be blocked, but sitting in front of cars that are going about their business is shitty behaviour. Looking at you “Just Stop Oil”.
“Don’t disrupt anything with your protest. Be small, and unseen.”
“Also, don’t interfere with the operation of your boss’s business when striking. It’s really shitty when they lose revenue, and when I don’t get my doodads in a timely manner!”
Way to miss the point there buddy. Don’t interfere with regular civilians is the point. Absolutely, disrupt businesses if that’s the point of your protest. Look at the BLM protests as an example. They blocked out large swathes of roads so that no one would be able to enter. They didn’t disturb those who were already driving.
Also, no one says the protest has to be small. Press exists for a reason.
The entire point of a protest is to disrupt and inconvenience people, including civilians. Protests have no teeth otherwise.
No, but go off
You’re the one arguing that direct action should neither be direct or action.
Way to misrepresent my argument there buddy. I’m saying that it can still be direct without inconveniencing civilians going about their day, but most of you Lemmy liberals are too chaotic. Enjoy alienating potential supporters of your cause then.
I’m not a liberal. Liberal’s prime justification for sticking with the status quo certainly is that they’re “alienated”, though. That’s not the actual reason of course. The actual reason is they’re fat and happy on the current system and don’t want radical change. That’s the benefit of creating pain points, so it’s not so easy to ignore.
You’re gunna hate to learn about how we got the 5 day work week.
Bro really replying to a 1 week old comment 💀🙏
Double standards
Condoning violence against things while condemning violence against people is really not such a big contradiction, especially when said thing is used to hurt people.
Edit: Then again, a guy wanting other people to get shot probably doesn’t argue in good faith anyway.
that’s the entire conservative thought process. always protect things over people. kill a homeless person? you’re a hero. use counterfeit 20 dollar bill? get strangled to death. rape? be our president. trespassing? get shot to death.
trespassing?
This is why the last time I made a sign for a pro-choice event, I made it in the shape of a uterus with a warning sign inside it, saying, “NO TRESPASSING: Violators may be aborted.”
They value property rights, so it seems only fitting to frame access to our bodies by using their own arguments.
Condoning violence against things while condemning violence against people is really not such a big contradiction, especially when said thing is used to hurt people.
That’s opposite to what happened. They condemned violence against property, and condoned violence against a person
Lots of reddit communities are fascist communities
They’re a more marketable demographic.
I care.
Wow can’t believe you support the nazi rallies /s
Should we tell them their family joined the protest?
You did it, you fit the entire US vibe into one picture!
Anyone manage to find the actual comment link?
Probably fictional. Otherwise OP would have linked to it
Yeah, the text is too straight, it should curve with the window.
Someone provided a link 6 minutes before you replied.
We should all always assume that any screenshot is fake unless they provide a link to the source.
You can believe everything is true, or you can believe everything is fake. Either way requires no thought.
Or you can believe things to be true when proper citations are provided.
And report potential misinformation to mods for deletion.
So you waste the mods time reporting everything posted?
There’s a world of difference between asking for a source and saying “no source so it’s fake, reporting.”
We have standards here on Lemmy, and that includes fighting against low effort posts and spreading misinformation.
The mods aren’t doing enough. Its our job to help them identity this content.
It was 6 minutes after
We are but 6 minutes old
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bumperstickers/comments/1hnl472/comment/m42lf0u/
Going back to this wretched place gave me PTSD…
Oof, I scrolled for a good 10 minutes. I couldn’t find the comment, probably deleted.
A crazy mix of “politics” in there. The sheer amount of people who have no problem telling the world they have no problem running over people simply because they don’t want to slow down in the street is concerning.
Yes the comment has been deleted by the moderators… Although you can still see the moderator comment
Fucking Reddit mods. I got perma banned for saying I wished that MTG would trip and swallow her own head.
Ah yes, the classic actionable threat of impossible self-inflicted cartoon injury.
She’d have to pull it out of her ass first.
It’s a vortex of constantly eating itself
You have been permabanned on /r/MagicTheGathering
I just got banned from some shitty lemmy instance for calling a tankie ‘ruski’.
They are a precious breed.
that term is generally used and perceived as a pejorative, not quite a slur, but close. you have a lot of other slurs on your profile so i don’t have much sympathy.
Alright dumpling!
Hang on… which other slurs?
hahahha
There’s barely any after scrolling back lmao I challenge you to find one slur I’ve posted.
Looks like a photoshop, not a real sticker. Not a lot of pixels, but it doesn’t curve right, reflect or warp with the window. Squared up with tbe image orientation, not the window or defroster lines like a human would apply a sticker.
Everyone grabbing pitchforks all the same.
That’s not the point. The OP straight up advocates maiming or killing people in a known Terrorist TTP. But the guy who talks about a window gets banned.
Yeah. I get the point.
My point is that it’s fake and made up to incite strong emotions.
You’re being trolled. Effectively. This is straight up ragebait. This should be thrown in the trash and mocked for what it is.
You think the entire thread is faked?
That’s not what I said at all.
Then how is this rage bait?
Really?
it’s real… links have been provided to the reddit post lol
it’s clearly an image advocating murder and mods deleting comments advocating vandalism while leaving the murder ones up
whether the image posted to reddit is a photoshop is irrelevant. the issue is which violence the mods chose to promote and which to ban
So your argument is that it’s real because it was posted to reddit and you don’t care if it was a photoshop?
what are you missing about this… the point of interest is WHAT HAPPENED ON REDDIT. which you can see with your own eyes. the important part is 100% guaranteed verifiably NOT a photoshop
tell me, just so we can get on the same page: what do you think is interesting about this image? why do you think most people upvoted it on Lemmy? we definitely have a misunderstanding here.
100% guaranteed verifiably NOT a photoshop
Verify it, then. Your claim, not mine.
This plainly looks like a fake. I’ve already explained why.
Just because it’s a render doesn’t mean it’s fake. It’s probably a preview used at a decal store and it was grabbed from there. Here’s an example. I’m only linking to prove what I’m saying. I don’t want anyone to actually buy one.
Doesn’t make it real. You can render whatever example you want for custom stickers just like a meme. It’s mashing the “easy” button in lieu of a photoshop. Someone made this as ragebait, and it should be treated as such. By your measure I could say I might print a meme as a sticker and now it’s “real” even if I don’t print it.
I’ve seen worse out in the wild. I absolutely know the types of people who would put this on their cars and think it’s clever.
Sure. It could be real if someone printed it. But like I said, that means every printable image ever falls into the same category. It’s a waste of time to think about that. There are gonna be people that either really think what this says or simply slap it on a car to piss people off.
That’s a different rabbit hole. The subject at hand is a render (by default a render isn’t real, right?) designed to be ragebait. Looks like it’s pretty effective considering how many people want it to be real so they can be outraged.
The moderator username is implying that it’s a subreddit that is for marketing cringe stickers to suckers
Appropriate. Seems to be effective.
Can any lawyers answer this:
If the person driving that vehicle did end up running someone over, and had that sign in the window, would they get an elevated charge?
To me, that sort of thing is like premeditation, and it would be extremely hard for me to believe that an “accident” led to them killing someone with their vehicle.
I think it would be easy to defend against, with so many of those stickers around it could easily demonstrate just a particular sense of humour
Not a lawyer, but I think stuff like this is a minefield. The defense would try to get it thrown out as prejudicial and without the suspect testifying all they could do is show a picture to an officer of it who affirms that he saw it on the car and enter it into evidence, but they could only indirectly talk about it in opening and closing because nobody can personally testify about the motivations behind the sticker.
But if the defense was “I panicked and hit the gas when people surrounded me” this is something that would poke quite a few holes in that argument.
It could, its just hard for the prosecution to handle. Because it’s not direct evidence of the mindset for that incident and it’s inflammatory to the jury the chances of it being ruled as prejudicial and not probative is high. That’s why past criminal convictions are also often excluded from trials.
Not a lawyer but, premeditation isn’t what you think it is; one can premeditate an action in seconds, the concept really just conveys that the individual had time to think of the consequences.
But yeah, a sticker like this would certainly hurt the case of any defendant. It wouldn’t likely get them any modifiers (though it would help), but it could definitely affect a judge’s decision on how much time they should serve.
There should be a community of “just reddit things” like this
there is but I have it blocked.
There is a reddit community, usually used in that way.
