• ivanafterall ☑️@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I’ve made this argument to religious friends and family members resistant to trying psychedelics.

    “If a little piece of paper or a little mushroom risks getting rid of God, what does that say about God?”

    • AA5B@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      Presumably it says more about their faith ……

      Here’s a ridiculous analogy

      After a lifetime of falling from grace at the hands of two liter sodas, I understand that I’m weak in my self-control. Now I only drink soda in cans (despite the cost and environmental impact) as part of my commitment to moderation. Controlling the temptations I may not prevail over is part of my battle for moderation.

      That says nothing about the power of big sodas to impact my health, my life, merely that I understand where I’m all too human

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        2 days ago

        If it makes you feel better, from a purely environmental perspective, drinking soda from aluminum cans is probably way better than plastic bottles due to higher aluminum recycling rates and much higher efficiency of the aluminum recycling process compared to plastic.

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      I think it says more about their actual beliefs in God. As a Christ follower, I believe everyone has their own path to take. If drugs in moderation is one of them, go for it. Hell, it’s theorized Moses was tripping on shrooms when talking to God.

      Those who fear being exposed to “other” things will take them away from God (beyond addiction, that’s a whole other thing), then they never believed in the first. They just use it as a shield to justify their horrible actions.

      • Ledivin@lemmy.world
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        I believe everyone has their own path to take. If drugs in moderation is one of them, go for it.

        Idk, you kinda told on your puritanical background there. If my path requires drugs in excess, who are you to judge?

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          Not sure how you got puritanical from that. It’s actually medical. Anything in excess will damage your body. I’m just as concerned for people’s bodily health as I am their spiritual health.

          • RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com
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            2 days ago

            I suspect we’re dealing with a difference in how you two are defining “excess.”

            “A lot more than normal” vs “a quantity sufficient to be toxic/medically harmful.”