i can’t even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.
edit: well they’re not quiet now once they get called out
i can’t even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.
edit: well they’re not quiet now once they get called out
I guess we could start saying to those people “I guess you hate LGBT” and “you’re complicit with refugees being deported” and “good job putting the last nail in the coffin of reproductive rights”. I mean, somehow they couldn’t say shit about those issues, just “OMG JOR BIDEN GENOCIDE” and ignored that letting Trump take office would be worse for Palestine as well as terrible about the aforementioned issues. Odd.
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We didn’t ignore those issues child. They were directly related to gaza. A willingness to throw palestinians under the genocide steam roller is the same as the willingness to throw LGBT+, etc.
Hell harris couldn’t even speak plainly about transgender medical care. The only reason she didn’t do it is because she thought that would lose her the election where the Palestinians wouldn’t.
“Child”, ha. Nice move to condescension immediately.
Anyway, you’re STILL ignoring that Trump is going to be at best just as bad about Palestine and likely worse. So, good job, you’re really helping Palestine by getting someone even worse elected. I’ve been trying to explain this for like 10 months now and it sure has been a waste of time.
As far as LGBT issues, likewise Trump is 100% guaranteed to be much worse. So, your speculation about Harris doesn’t hold up there either. Guaranteed worse vs maybe not whole hearted support? Let’s go for guaranteed worse, yeah!
I’m not ignoring trump being as bad as harris and biden on israel. You’re just refusing to understand that trump being as bad doesn’t give you leverage in this discussion.
Let me be blunt: your candidate blew, she blew in 2020, she blew in 2024. she had shit policies for key demographics and it cost her the election and now you have trump.
You’re upset that people like myself will not condone the lesser evil argument when its applied to a fucking genocide.
You’re also upset that people saw harris for the gas lighting shit stain that she was as a politician and decided not to support her on economic policies.
You’re also confused that we care that trump won. I personally dont; I see it as a unfortunate outcome to a failed political party being unwilling to meet the needs of its electorate.
I’m going to do what I can locally to minimize the impact of his administration fully acknowledging the fact that harris/biden fucked up hard core and the democratic party has lost its way.
Harris and the DNC only have themselves to blame. You, as individual, only have yourself to blame for not understanding key demographics within the electorate and ensuring your chosen party carters to them. Supporting gaza and labor rights would have cost you personally nothing. Yet you’ve decided to persist in this nonsense and as a result not only did you get trump. but you’re likely going to keep experiencing these loses to fucking fascists because you are unwilling to pull the stick out of your holier than thou ass and demand your politicians represent working class americans.
You may of course can continue persisting in your illusion that your lesser evil policy was the better strategy than meeting the needs of the electorate upon which the DNC relies, but it literally lost them the election, TWICE.
Your willingness to sacrifice the few to save the many is exactly what lead to the polling numbers that allowed harris think she could continue down the shit policy path that she had during her campaign.
Expecting others to suffer, unneccessarily I might add, just so you personally won’t and refusing to acknowledge their complaints is what landed us in this mess and is not some great sacrifice on your part. It simply shows you for the absolutely horrible human being that you are.
That is why you’re a child, because you selfishly demand the sacrifice of others for your own comfort.
This is the exact same conversation I’ve had about this for months, as noted. Your points don’t really make sense or seem valid to me. I’m not “a child” due to this. Maybe you should gain some maturity and stop using dumb condescending insults. What you’re saying about me “demanding sacrifice” from others doesn’t correlate to anything in reality. So, another pretentious “OMG IM SO LEFTIST” person with poorly thought out positions, big surprise.
In the US presidential election, yes, you don’t get a perfect candidate. You’re voting along with millions of people. The concept is to vote for the person who best represents your views and has a chance of winning. Not sure why this is so difficult to understand.