• beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    That one’s a deal breaker. Never getting in an Tesla again. And yes, that means a lot of taxi cabs 🤷‍♂️🙄

  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    See? This. This is why I don’t trust my safety to electronic systems. The fancy computer controlled locks and latches are great when they work. When they don’t, shit like this happens.

    At least most cars still have a physical connection between the door handle and the locking mechanism. Not Tesla, for no good goddamned reason.

  • iAvicenna@lemmy.world
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    “when a crash disabled its electronic doors.”

    Female AI voice: Please stay in your seats with your seat belts on until Elon has been notified of this incident.

  • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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    In the US there are nine investigations involving the Tesla Model Y, ranging from “unexpected brake activation” to “sudden unintended acceleration,” according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

    Nice

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    Find a good lawyer and sue the living shit out of Tesla and “Leon.” I agree with the majority of the comments.

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      They might all have one but if not, get one that has a seat belt cutter on it. And keep it in the front console, not anywhere in the back or in the glove compartment.

      I knew someone (an acquaintance, we weren’t close) who died in a crash because their seatbelt got stuck and they couldn’t get out. They had one of those cutter hammer combos but it was in the back seat. Absolutely nightmarish.

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        My dad was driving a truck full of pigs back in the 70s. He was driving with 2 friends in a very heavy rain. They were crossing a shitty Mexican bridge when they lost traction and went off into the river upside down. The river/channel was narrow so they doors wouldn’t open. They managed to break the windshield and escape. None of the pigs survived. But neither the pigs nor my dad or friends were wearing seatbelts… because Mexico and 1970’s, reasons, etc. I mean the truck was a Datsun and those things did not have seatbelts installed from what I recall.

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    There is a manual override. This is why you should read the god damn manual from cover to cover when you buy a car. If the manual is missing, you can easily find a free PDF in seconds.

    I fucking hate Teslas and Muskrat, but there is no excuse for this kind of ignorance. I feel for the families of the victims. I’m incredibly pissed off by how fucking stupid these people were.

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      Any safety feature that requires you read how to use it has already failed. During an emergency, you have to know, intuitively, how to escape. It’s why panic bars exist on doors.

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      I want to see you recite a haiku while the car is burning. Can’t think of one? Maybe relying on knowledge instead of intuition isn’t such a great idea.

      People have died in front of emergency escape doors that are slide to open instead of push because of air pressure, so expecting people to find a little loop under a plastic cover in the door compartment during an emergency is asinine. Which is the case for Tesla Y, btw.

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      Imagine being in a burning car and needing the manual to open the doors. And then you can’t find it so you start googling “Tesla model S manual”, find a PDF, then start scrolling through it trying to find out how do you open the doors.

      Here’s an idea, how about just make it so the handles mechanically open the damn doors? This is why i’ll never own an electric car, they’re full of bullshit like this where things are done electronically for absolutely no reason. I hate this fucking design phylosophy where everything has to be more complicated, less reliable and less functional.

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        Being electric isn’t the problem. These are design choices that assume that things will always be perfect.

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          Ok, what about passengers?

          What about kids? Should they start go right from ABC’s to the Tesla Model Y 2020-2021 Owners Manual?

          What if it’s a rental, do you sit down and read the owners manual in the parking lot of the rental place before you go anywhere?

          Door handles have basically been an industry standard as they are (mechanical) because of form and function. They just work, there is zero reason that door handles need to be electric and have a manual emergency release. The only reason I could grasp from the smallest straws was aesthetics: they look cooler/go better with the car.

          Lamborghinis and Ferrari’s have mechanical door handles, if it’s good enough for them, it should be good enough for Musk.

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          Nonono. There’s no excuse to not make a door work mechanically. It should be easy and obvious to open from the inside. Why shit like this is even allowed is completely beyond me.

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      Horse shit. Safety features should not require reading the manual to operate. They should be big, obvious, and easy to operate. What if you’re a passenger and the accident causes the driver to lose consciousness?

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        No problem; the first one is under the hood on the right, and the second one is in the driver’s side footwell.

        Now let me out please.

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    I can’t believe there isn’t an NHTSA regulation about manual egress from an unpowered vehicle. This is just bonkers.

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      When I rode as a passanger in a Tesla Model 3, the owner told me not to use the big pull handle because it was the manual release, and instead to use the button at the top of the grab bar.

      I don’t know about the other models but the manual release was a more obvious way to open the door than the intended way.

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      There are manual releases but they’re hidden. They need to be more obvious because these cars are rented to people and obviously the owners aren’t taking the time to figure out where they’re at.

      I would also think just having secondary power packs in each door would help in the event power is cut to ensure the doors can continue to function for a few minutes while also a speaker could explain how to use the emergency release if none of the doors are working.

      All this added complexity and cost isn’t worth it to me, manual doors just make sense for so many reasons.

      • h4lf8yte@lemmy.ml
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        Eject the doors with explosives as soon as the vehicle velocity is zero and fuck everyone else. Tumbler style.

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        The reason given for hiding them just makes that fact worse. It’s for “aesthetics”. Manual latches don’t look futuristic enough.

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        Or, how about this: it’s a door, have it work like every other car door for the last 70 years.

        Redesigning stuff to make it “cool” and “futuristic” is fucking stupid and is clearly not safe. Doors have handles, the handles are pulled to open the door. Keep it simple.

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        The front handles aren’t hidden. They’re so obvious everyone I take in my car tries to use them first if I don’t tell them.

        Back doors is a whole other story.

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          That’s if they have them. Apparently some models of the Y don’t come with manual back door releases.

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              I thought that was more in reference to the release being hidden under a mat to access. The fact that ‘a whole other story’ could be misconstrued two ways I think just shows how bonkers this is 😂

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      It’s an apt analogue for what we should all expect from the DOGE; burning to death while everyone watches in terror.

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        It hurts seeing a meme that was fun a decade ago get run into the ground by being used so aggressively and so long and so fucking uncoolly.

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          Yeah, it was the whole point.

          When Trump first said that, I wondered why the hell he’s talking about Musk asking for a position title that never existed, and then he tweeted out some BS AI gen of him with the title ‘DOGE’ on a nameplate in front of him.

          He basically is a 13 year old who never grew up.

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    Yeah but mechanical car door handles aren’t “Cool.” You don’t want to have a car that isn’t cool, right?

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      Some GenZ kids were talking about how cool rolling up a window with a handle was and wished it was in cars again. It was refreshing to hear.

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          I was in a 2024 Cherokee and it was insanely frustrating trying to get the window to where I wanted it.

          It also looks absolutely nothing like a Jeep Cherokee. They should just say Jeep SUV on them.

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        When electric windows became a thing I considered it a downgrade because it meant that I couldn’t roll down my window when the engine was off.