• UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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    8 days ago

    Fuck whoever thought it was a good idea to use Ukraine to “slowly grind down” russia. Fuck them forever for treating the Ukrainian people like they were disposable

    • Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      8 days ago

      The hell are you on? It’s russia that invaded UKRAINIAN TERRITORY and it’s literally self-defense. God forbid you fight back against a murderer wanting to kill you, amirite?

      • verity_kindle@sh.itjust.worksM
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        8 days ago

        I was struggling to find a reply, but you all covered it. Fuck Putin with a rusty school bus axle. He has cancer, help him on his way to the inevitable.

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          I am not happy we didn’t support Ukraine more.

          But putin sabotaged our democracy by supporting the worst trash among us.

          And everyone said that’s exactly what he would do beforehand.

          Fucking worthless animals voting out of spite.

          • verity_kindle@sh.itjust.worksM
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            8 days ago

            This is a humorous shitposting asylum, run by the wacky inmates. This is not a place for seriouspolitics. I have been gently reminding people of this all day. Can everyone please pull back on the Despair of the Day, bottle it up tightly inside and just…shitpost, shitmeme or shitcomment while you’re here. Please. That’s the tottering crayon tower on which NCD was built. This is not the place for discussing politics seriously. Thank you.

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        I think they’re saying Ukraine should have been given everything they needed to win the war quickly from the start. A lot of people believe the “slow trickle” of aid was designed to drag the war on.

        The argument is that a long war is far more damaging to russia, whereas a losing a short war leaves them in a better position to recover and try again in the near future – beating russia to a bloody pulp vs giving it a black eye.

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          Ah. Well, a short victory, I think, would have been a decisive blow to Russia. I think that could even have lead to a regime-change. I definitely don’t like the idea that so many people should suffer to weaken the enemy. Giving Ukraine much more to begin with would have showed Russia not to fuck with its neighbours. If that’s what the original commenter meant, I definitely understand their point of view.

    • verity_kindle@sh.itjust.worksM
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      7 days ago

      This is a shitposting community. Consider a revision with some joke about Navy SEAL sodomite harems or fanfiction about Yamato or sumthin. I know everybody is traumatized, but we still have rule #10, which mods interpret pretty generously.

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    The thing is, where Putin has oligarchs that would dump him in a hot second if he dropped a bomb, Trump is absolutely eager to blow shit up and doesn’t care / can’t process the consequences of dropping the first nuclear bomb in hostility and breaking the black ice.

    In Trump’s first term no-one in the Department of Energy or the Department of Defense brass were MAGA loyalists, even though many considered themselves Republican, conservative and endorsed US military interventionism and adventurism. So when they were told (for instance) to nuke the snot out of North Korea to give them what for, Mattis was there to say no. None of the later secretaries of defense under Trump (Shanahan, Esper, Spencer, and Miller) would have authorized a nuclear strike either. And if one of them did, the generals under them were likely to resign than carry out such an order.

    Enter Project 2025’s Schedule F plan, which is going to retire all the old brass US loyalists that are sworn to defend the Constitution of the United States (and mean it) and replace them with Trump loyalists, who, when asked to launch a nuclear strike against somewhere in the other side of the world will say Yes Sir! (or By Your Command ) or ( With Pleasure ) whatever the going evil-empire affirmative salute is.

    So it is a likely possibility non-zero not-insignificant possibility President Donald J. Trump will order a nuclear strike during his second term, and it will be carried out by the department of defense. He still really wants to express his fire and fury and show the world his dick is absolutely the biggest.

    I thought about this during Trump’s first term (and pondering the possibility of Hope, Montana getting nuked – three times! – at the end of Far Cry 5 ), imagining that unlike Greg Stillson in The Dead Zone bullying his principals to launch a first strike, Mattis would be there, steak-knife in hand to save the world from a rogue president. He actually did, just without the confrontation or the need of a steak-knife. But it means the Heritage Foundation is forewarned this time.

    † Yes, technically two atomic bombs have been dropped in hostility, but after Castle Bravo / Bikini Atoll we quietly shifted from the atomic age to the nuclear age. It’s a significant difference. Hiroshima had about a 15KT yield (12-18KT estimated) while Bikini Atoll had a 15MT yield (that’s 1000x Hiroshima). US Peacekeeper missles carry ten MIRV 0.5MT warheads and bombs dropped from airplanes are 2.1MT. So yeah, we’ve had atomic war, but not nuclear war.

    • nuke@sh.itjust.worksOPM
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      8 days ago

      Yall too serious

      And making me read and shit. At least add some pictures yall know I’m fucking dumb

    • verity_kindle@sh.itjust.worksM
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      8 days ago

      Could you make a crudely animated version of your saga and get back to me? We have construction paper and a grubby assortment of scented markers. Have fun!

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        Man, the marines already at the crayons, you know the infantry will just huff away all the scented markers. Then we will need to propose a new budget for things like pencils, and that means running the bidding process to design the pencils, produce the raw materials, make the pencils, ship them…

        New, rule, makers are for non-infantry only.

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    Does he even need to send them anything? Doesn’t he just have to say a few words to give Ukraine permission to build their own? Although I guess if they lose US support, they wouldn’t need permission anymore.

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      Doesn’t he just have to say a few words to give Ukraine permission to build their own?

      He already did, it’s right there in the Bible:

      Genesis 6:9
      “And Bidens said, ‘Let there be light’. Then he slapped on his Aviators, took a sweet slide over the hood, and hopped in his 1967 Stingray and drove off into the sunset.”

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      Making a nuke is pretty difficult, even for a whole nation. It would probably take years for them to develop a nuke if they started from scratch.

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        Well, they ain’t starting from scratch, cause they designed a bunch of nukes for the USSR.

        They almost certainly have workable designs in a file drawer, and the old facilities are all in Ukraine too. It’s a question of how much decommissioning those got in the nineties, and how long it takes to enrich the uranium.

  • ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip
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    hmm unfortunately for this plan everything nuclear is a bit more difficult for the President to do willy nilly.

    less dangerous but more funny would be for him to resign and let Harris be the 47th President. you know Trump and his cult have plowed millions into “47” merch that would suddenly become worthless to them.

    (there are a lot of things that he can do that SCOTUS has preemptively granted him immunity for, though…)

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      (there are a lot of things that he can do that SCOTUS has preemptively granted him immunity for, though…)

      Biden is actually in the trolley problem. He can either save many and go to hell (he’s Catholic) or he can let the many die. I don’t envy him.

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      Trump and his cult have plowed millions into “47” merch that would suddenly become worthless to them.

      No, His followers have plowed millions into it and Trump received those millions.

      So while funny, you just have Trump get millions more for his “48” merch.

    • verity_kindle@sh.itjust.worksM
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      8 days ago

      It’s already been theorized in this thread. We’re in a crisis, we need the freshest shitposts! We go to the mattresses!

  • JoYo@lemmy.ml
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    8 days ago

    I thought that said Putin Synthesizer. Lke what a Geiger–Müller counter?