This is not my personal opinion, I know Gen Z men who voted for Harris. But the voter demographics really speak for themselves, and maybe now people will look at the radicalization of young men as a serious (but solvable) issue.

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    But I would be lying.

    Look, name an issue that exclusively affects men, and I’ll amend my list. So far, no one has come up with anything.

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      Mental health issues being ignored by their peers and society as a whole is a pretty big one

      You could claim women have mental health problems too and they do but they have spaces to talk about that

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        So your claim is that “mental health issues” are an exclusively male problem? Because again, the problems I listed for women affect them exclusively.

        So do you see what the problem is here?

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          You ignored part of my message, I said the problem was that men’s mental health problems are largely ignored, not that women don’t have mental health problems

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            So to be clear, one of the main issues that men in this country face that women do not face is that “their mental health issues are ignored”?

            Who is “ignoring” these mental health issues? There’s no systematic lack of access that needs to be legislated, correct? I had absolutely zero problem getting therapy as a man. It’s a toxic masculinity thing of men themselves being unwilling to see a therapist. Correct?

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      “Rapes aren’t prosecuted” doesn’t exclusively effect women by any means. Also, men can get pregnant. Trans men are men.

      I understand the point you’re making and I generally agree, but to suggest there are not issues that affect young men much more than young women that seriously need fixing is silly.

      The insane drug war affects men far, far more than women.

      And you’ll also notice that, aside from Breyonna Taylor who cops didn’t even know was there, virtually every major case involving police extrajudicial murder was of a black man.

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        “The drug war” is not a male-exclusive problem. That would be like saying that because men are responsible for perpetrating 99% of violent crime, violence is an exclusively male problem. Notice I didn’t say that.

        Also, are you sure you want me to add “trans male pregnancy” to the list of male problems? Are you quite sure this is something your fellow men feel strongly about? Don’t be dishonest, please.

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          Tell me you didn’t even look at the image without telling me you didn’t look at the image.

          And you also don’t seem to think men can be raped since you think it’s only rapes of women that don’t get prosecuted.

          Also, are you sure you want me to add “trans male pregnancy” to the list of male problems?

          I was pointing out the flaw in you claiming these were only problems that involve women. That is only true for most of them if you do not think trans men are men. Are trans men actually men?

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            I looked at your image. Fine. Let’s say the drug war affects men more than women by imprisoning them. Unfortunately, most men don’t care about this issue.

            Here’s a related one: prison rape. It’s a serious problem that affects more men than women. Unfortunately, men don’t care about this issue either.

            Another male exclusive problem: online radicalization… the infamous alt-right pipeline. This odious trend has reduced male college attendance and made my fellow American men even stupider than they otherwise would be.

            Another exclusively male problem: dating culture disparity. Men are expected to pay for dates despite nearly equivalent earning potential.

            Why didn’t you mention any of that? Instead you’re focused on the one in a million women who are now trans men who are giving birth (???)

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              Why didn’t you mention any of that?

              Because men in prison, in numbers exponentially more than women, is a much bigger problem. One that you don’t seem to care about.

              Also, you still haven’t told me if trans men are men, so I guess you don’t think they are. Especially when you said “women who are now trans men” as if they weren’t always men.

              So this is some weird TERF crap. I’m not interested in that sort of bigotry.

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                Women who are now trans men weren’t always trans men, were they? Maybe they thought of themselves as women for a long time before changing their mind.

                What a bizarre argument to have in a thread showcasing your lack of understanding for the kind of things men actually care about and politics in general.