• Voytrekk@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    We should have forced a change when they pushed Hillary over Bernie in 2016. They need to give us candidates that excited people and get them out to vote. The more people that vote, the better Democrats do.

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        2 days ago

        “But it was someone else’s fault!”

        Speaking as a two-time Bernie voter, all the political machinations in the world can’t match up to the fact that the country is not as left as we want it to be - or that elements of the left in this country are more than happy to sit out elections in a huff because they don’t get what they want.

        • timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works
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          2 days ago

          Precisely. My state didn’t matter at all by the time we voted in primaries but I still went and voted Bernie.

          Your analysis is spot on and people just don’t want to admit it. Today we see America for what it is honestly.

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          The issue is the left doesn’t advertise what people want to hear from the left. They see adds about social changes, and they don’t care as much. If the left can push and promote policies that helps everyday people, even those on the right, people would be happier. Push for universal healthcare, free/cheap higher education, affordable housing, higher wages. Democrats haven’t done enough to push these policies or promote them, so people don’t get excited enough to go out and vote.

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            2 days ago

            Is that why Bernie lost? He wasn’t economically left enough, or loud enough on those issues?

            At some point you have to face facts. The country, and the people residing in it, are not what you want them to be, and pretending otherwise is disadvantaging your own side.

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      It’s honestly starting to feel intentional.

      The wealthy donate to both parties to pull them right, but no amount of political advertising makes up for the votes the compromises required for the donations cost.

      Kamala took fossil fuel money to pledge not to ban fracking, and that cost her votes.

      Those donations frankly just can’t buy enough advertising to make up for the pledge. But as long as the corporations buy off both parties, they don’t give a fuck who wins

      The result is the party with voters who have the least morals/principles is going to keep winning.

      And for everyone wondering how trump just won, that’s why.

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        It’s honestly starting to feel intentional.

        Watch when all the retailers magically drop prices now. “Look, Trump finally got us lower prices.” 🤔

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          They won’t, there’s not going to be anyone to force them, and expect a bunch of mergers that will further entrench monopolies and oligopolies.