I was explaining this to my daughter in quite simplified terms the other day- we evolved to taste sugar and enjoy it because finding a sweet edible plant meant we had a source of energy to help us hunt that day. Pretty useful if you’re a hunter-gatherer.
So we seek out sugar. Now we can get it whenever we want it, in much more massive quantities than we are supposed to be processing. Most of us are addicted. I’m not an exception.
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Oh, I didn’t know there was a reduced sugar Ragu.
And yet somehow still with a lot of sugar.
No added sugar doesn’t mean no sugar. Ripe fruits like tomatoes and peppers contain more than trace amounts of sugar.
I know it’s a huge shock to you but yes tomatoes have NATURAL sugar in them.
Veggies have sugar too. Mind blowing right?
A cup of pure tomato paste has 32g of sugar, since tomatoes are fruits that contain sugar. It doesn’t look like that sauce has any added sugar at all based on the ingredients, but it does have carrots, which are also high in sugar (for a vegetable)
Pretty bold to assume I’m not a hunter gatherer
This is why I make my pasta sauce from scratch. Plus it tastes way better letting the natural sugars in the tomato get all roasty toasty.
Not only it tastes better every time, the flavors in the homemade sauce are way more pronounced than the ones that are supposed to be in the bought one
It honestly isn’t that card to take a can of diced tomatoes and throw it on the frying pan, add some garlic, olive oil, salt, and herbs of your choosing, reduce to a suitable volume, good to go. I’m surprised more people don’t do that.
Feel free to share your recipe though, I’d be curious how others do it
even just a heap of “Italian seasoning” thrown in there makes a passable sauce. A can of crushed tomatoes and a can of tomato paste and a handful of Italian seasoning (with salt to taste) and you’ve got a decent college-kid budget sauce.
I don’t even get why sugar is added. Tomato sauce is already sweet on its own.
My wife and I like to get a local brand because it’s honestly the best I’ve ever had. Each serving (3oz, 85g) is 15 calories.
It sorta depends on the ingredients you’re working with, some tomatoes are sweeter or more acidic than others. Where I live tomatoes tend to be somewhat watery and lack a bit of intensity of flavour. If I’m making sauce at home I’ll taste a bit and add some sugar and/or red wine vinegar to balance out the flavour.
Removes acidic flavours
Oh that’s why yoplait is so fucking good
Oh yeah - I’ve had to start watching my carbohydrate intake for health reasons and it’s amazing just how much of that stuff is in processed food: for example “American Style Onion Rings (frozen)” from Lidl is over 40% carbohydrates - so basically the 450g pack of it has 180g of sugars and the kind of stuff your digestive system will turn into sugars.
One would think it would be only starchy foods (like bread, pasta, rice and such) and cakes and sweets that have lots of it, but no, most processed food is loaded with carbohydrates, often already directly as sugars, probably because the cheapest ingredient to bulk it up is flour.
Mind you, lots of natural or lightly processed foods have quite a bit of it - for example natural yoghurt with nothing added has maybe 6% of carbohydrates (tough yoghurt with fruit is way worse, since the adding of fruit is generally mixing it with fruit jam which has a lot of sugar) and most fruits have quite a bit of sugar (for example, common varieties of apple have about 14% of sugar - so your run of the mill apple comes with 1 spoonful of sugar included - and some varieties have a lot more) which is why there’s this funny paradox that natural fruit juice has a lot more sugar in it than the same amount of Coca-Cola (since when you make the fruit juice you throw away the fiber and most of the protein leaving a much higher percentage of sugar than originally).
Generally, the kind of stuff that has almost no carbohydrates are veggies, like lettuce or broccoli.
It’s great that you found a diet that helps with your health and works for you!
You probably know this anyway and most likely implied it, but I just want to stress that carbohydrates per se are not bad. Yes, eventually everything is being broken down to sugar, but you should not reduce carbohydrates to this function only. Oats are mostly carbohydrates, but they are whole grain with a lot of fiber and are a great source for iron (if not eaten with dairy). Their GI is in the 50s but you would have to take the whole dish into account, as rarely you’ll just sit there munching oats like a horse. Buckwheat and quinoa are often praised for their high protein content (and it’s true, they have like 10-12g of protein per 100g) but they still consist mostly of carbohydrates. A slow breakdown of complex carbohydrates gives you long term energy without raising blood sugars too much.
Yeah, it it makes a massive difference the GI index of the sugars in the food one eats, so for example it’s a lot better to consume pulses (like chickpeas) than it is pasta, since the latter is pretty much just starch and (after cooked) water whilst the former is a far more complex food with also lots of protein and fiber (only talking about macronutrients here).
Mind you, this diet of mine is not because of overweight, it’s to keep Type II Diabetes under control with as little insulin as possible and to get it into remission (so far, it has worked very well having reduced the need of insuline by about 80%), so it’s based on studies that have been done on this and is much more tightly controlled with regular checking of blood sugar levels.
But yeah, a lot of it is to reduce the intake of low GI sugars (I used to be a big consumer of bread, for example, since I live in a country with really good bread, and that stuff is for special occasions only nowadays), which means quite a lot of cuting down on carbohydrates consumption but also means replacing some with better sugars (so, say, pulse or peas instead of potatoes or pasta)
Mind you, part of the problem is that my work is sitting down in front of a computer, so even with regular exercise I simply need a lot less sugars than I used to eat - if was naturally more physically active in most days beyond the whole walk to work and back thing and two 10km runs a week, cutting down so much on carbohydrate-rich foods would’ve been a bad thing.
Still, its pretty amazing by comparison just how much excess of sugars there was in my diet previously and that was even with some care with what I ate and quite a lot of sweets avoidance.
Meat and cheese has no sugar/very low sugar too.
Yeah, but they have a lot of calories via fat (especially cheese) and what I’ve seen in my own diet (which includes regular checking of blood sugar levels), if I eat more of it (again, especially cheese) the sugar levels in the blood go up all else being the same.
Don’t ask me the exact details of how the human body does that, I’m not a specialist and this is just what I observe happens if start eating more cheese.
Which is a shame, 'cause I love cheese :(
Yeah the metabolism is crazy, crazily complicated too, we have mapped it out (badly) at around 15%…
The liver can make sugar (glycose) and there are a lot of ‘magic’ going on everywhere, but for me cutting out sugar and only eating veggies, meat and cheese was a great diet, have forgotten aboug it maybe I should check it out again…
What a shame for the cheese! Does it do that for all kind of cheese, like goat, sheep, roquefort, hard cheese (there are so many)?
Also, did you eat something specific around the same time you ate cheese?
I would get two of the local small (about 50g each) cured cheeses made out of goat and sheep milk a week and eat them, and was having trouble cutting down on blood sugar until I stopped doing it and that one change with all else being roughly the same consistently reduced the blood sugar level increases - since I have Type II Diabetes - between my “running days” (I run 10km twice a week, which by itself has a huge positive impact on it).
Around here there’s also what we call “fresh cheese” (basically cheese that hasn’t been cured) and I usually get a couple of those made of goat cheese and they don’t seem to be a problem.
Of course, this is all a bit so-so and anecdotcal since its pretty hard to control all other variables plus blood sugar seems to also be affected what you consumed days before (I’ve seen blood sugar go up long after the last meal and during a fasting period - so supposedly not because of sugar intake or digestion - which I suspect is due to the sugar stored in the liver or maybe yet another unexpected methabolic pathway).
In my experience of trying to control blood sugar levels with food and exercise, it is exactly as you said: metabolism is crazy, crazy complicated :/
You’re perfectly right. And it’s not just about energy, which there is a lot of in oils and proteins too. In nature, the sweetest things you’ll get are different kinds of fruit - all packed full of vitamins, antioxidants, fiber and whatnot. And they’re seasonal, so if you don’t eat them right away, you’re going to have to wait another year. So our taste makes us eat as much as we can. Sugar, of cours, is cheating.
(I just happen to be on my way to buy some pastries.)
The sweetest thing in nature is honey, nearly pure sugar that doesn’t spoil. Honey tends to be available year round in Africa where our taste buds evolved.
And with medicinal properties ;) A bit tricky to get though.
Cool ad?
Explains part of the reason why Rao’s tastes better than those other brands. I wish it had no sugar though.
I don’t think you can make tomato sauce without any sugar… Tomatoes have a fair amount.
Which kind of begs the question is this added sugar or?
(Please god stop adding sugar to your red sauces people. Fruits/vegetables bring their own)
People will lose their mind when they learn that vegetables have sugar.
As long as the sugar isn’t separated from the fibers, that’s fine.
One of them does say no added sugar
Rao’s actually has the appropriate amount of sugar. That’s very little per serving.
It’s pretty common to add a bit of sugar to tomato sauce tho.
Like a teaspoon or less. That looks like more. But someone else mentioned that this could be the sugar content from the tomatoes, which is okay.
Yes just a pinch, only if necessary. The second one says ‘no sugar added’ so it might as well be the sugars from all the ingredients.
i guarantee im not eating any of that sugar
Try making tomato sauce without sugar. Get back to me when you’ve tasted your horror.
I have done that, it’s not bad, a bit bitter but still pleasant in my opinion.
Though I do like my coffee black so maybe I just have a liking of bitter tasting items.
I’ve never tried stevia in tomato sauce. I’ll give it a try sometime. I’d worry about making it too sweet though since a lot of sweeteners are thousands of times sweeter than sugar.
They also taste disgusting.
I’d rather eat sugar or nothing at all over that shit.
I haven’t either, but I think it would work pretty well. The nice thing about stevia is that there are different products to buy with different levels of sweetness. I always put a stronger stevia extract in my tea at home that I get from Amazon because the stevia packets they have in restaurants next to the other sweeteners do not even come close to as sweet.
Then I have to use the tiny little cocaine spoon that comes with the extract to put some in my tea, and less than a full spoonful because it’s so sweet.
I’ve also seen stevia products made specifically for baking, so that might be worth a try since I’m guessing they tried to get it 1:1 with sugar.
No.
Why?
I know there are people who aren’t supposed to eat sugar, but there really isn’t anyone who doesn’t like sugar. Maybe I’m wrong. If there are, probably very few. I know a ton of people who dislike stevia, it tastes like a chemical to them not a sweetener. I am one of them and I am not alone.
Edit to add: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120531102334.htm
I guess it’s like cilantro.
Yes. And I love cilantro. Taste buds can be weird. If you’re just feeding yourself I’d say stevia recipes count but I wouldn’t serve it to a group of people.
Counterpoint:
https://www.raos.com/products/marinara-sauce
**Ingredients: **Italian Whole Peeled Tomatoes, Olive Oil, Onions, Salt, Garlic, Basil, Black Pepper, Oregano.
If you can afford it, using good quality Italian tomatoes really make a difference.
I don’t add any sugar in my sauce and it is pretty good and the acidity is at a good level.
I only use Cento san marzanos as the base for my sauce. And i learned to make sauce from my italian grandfather. A small amount of sugar always improves the sauce.
Do they contain more sugars by default perhaps?
What makes a tomato from Italy better?
This is ridiculous, I hardly ever make tomato sauce with (added) sugar and it tastes delicious. I suppose if you’re used to sugar being in everything it may taste odd, but it is far from horrendous
Nah, a small amount of sugar improves tomato sauce. It cuts the acidity.
After reading the other comments for a bit, it may depend on the tomatoes. The tomatoes I tend to use don’t need to balance out as much, I suppose
The tomatoes used for sauce often time have a higher acid content so you want a little sugar.
Some tomatoes, especially older heirloom varieties have more sugar than modern varieties and actually will make candy sauce if you’re not careful.
I spent the summer growing Cherokee purple just to make spaghetti sauce and it was like fucking dessert, no sugar added.
Make your own yogurt! It’s the best
I’ve never done that, but I’ve made cheese out of yogurt by putting it in cheesecloth and letting all the liquid drain out of it over a day or so. Mix it with some chives and it’s amazing on crackers.
Making your own everything isn’t feasible for most people, but if you are at home more than not it’s doable. My 4 siblings and I grew up with a mother that insisted that we make bread and pasta from scratch. Thankfully we had an automatic bread maker, and waking up to a fresh baked ¼ or ½ loaf of bread, daily, is amazing. The pasta maker wasn’t as fun, but it wasn’t the work that we went through at Grandma’s house, with her manual pasta maker.
We all are relatively tall and skinny, though we all have some form of a “beer belly, love handles, etc.” I can tell you from experience that the other kids knew we were getting “the good stuff,” even though it was all healthy food. Apparently this saved them a lot of money when all three of us boys joined the swim team, and they had absolutely ravenous swimmers in the house for a total of a decade.
It also led me to being able to get jobs as a line cook, and eventually a chef, when I needed a second or third job.
This is why I make my own fresh tomato sauce. A single pound/half kilo of ripe tomatoes and about 15 minutes, you can have a fresh pasta sauce at home.
Them little old Italian Grandmothers ain’t wasting all day to slow cook a tomato sauce. Unless they want to show off. They got lemoncello to make and drink…
If you want a sauce that adds a lot to anything you put it on, I recommend Alton Brown’s tomato sauce, adding a decent amount of fresh basil to the recipe if it’s in season near you makes it even better but isn’t necessary https://altonbrown.com/recipes/pantry-friendly-tomato-sauce/
It’s more work than just cooking down tomatoes, but it’s so worth it. I do double, triple, or quadruple batches and freeze it in 32 oz mason jars. Great on eggs, pizza, pasta, base for soups, burgers, and anything else you want tomato flavor added to really
Tomatoes are about 95% water, 1% fibre, and 4% other carbs (sugars and starches). Even with no added sugar, any tomato sauce is basically all carbs and sugar (if you ignore the water).
Even though we think of tomatoes as a vegetable they’re actually a fruit. Eating a whole bunch of tomato sauce is not much different from eating a bunch of pureed strawberries. Tomatoes just don’t taste as sweet as the strawberries because because they’re more acidic.
Shout-out to Rao’s for actually not having a whole lot of sugar and being genuinely one of the best pasta sauces you can get in a jar. Add a little Tabasco sauce and red wine and let that simmer for an hour or so and it’s perfection.
Pretty much any fruit flavoured food that is not artificial will contain sugar from the fruit juice. But most companies add sugar anyway.
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