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    13 hours ago

    Aaaaand there ya go. This is all you need to know about Jill Stein right? Because if Harris is a conservative because of Cheney’s endorsement….

    Or are the rules different?

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      13 hours ago

      Stein’s campaign says it wants nothing to do with Duke, the former American Nazi Party member.

      It’s one thing to be endorsed by an undesirable party, it’s another to accept it or even invite them to campaign with you.

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        13 hours ago

        It’s one thing to be the type of person that a racist piece of shit would endorse, and another to be the type of person that a person who hates racist pieces of shit would endorse.

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          12 hours ago

          Harris has her own share of problematic endorsements (Cheney, Gonzalez,…). Sure, they’re not explicitly racist, ‘just’ war criminals, but she accepted them and is actually bragging about getting them.

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            Right. Because Harris needs the support to keep a criminally charged rapist from being a dictator for a day and calling the military against his own people. Having the support of a Republican in this environment is a pretty big deal. That is reaching FAR across the aisle in an almost unheard of show of support- and it sends a message of solidarity against a fascist.

            Having a dirt bag irrelevant racist support a sketchy spoiler candidate?

            Well, that’s just damn easy to “deny,” isn’t it? I mean… there’s no downside. And it sure looks good to the press to turn him down, doesn’t it? But then again, it doesn’t look good to have him up her ass to begin with…

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              Why can’t she reach far to the left to get their support instead? If potential Jill Stein voters can lose her the election, she could see what those people care about and reach out to them?

              They would’ve probably been fine with a stop on sending offensive weapons while keeping iron dome stocked or something like that.

              Instead they’re trying to find the mythical voter that gives a shit about what Dick Cheney thinks.

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                Because sadly, FAR more people give a shit about what Cheney says than there are those that give a shit about what Stein says. And not only that, but I’d wager that no matter what she does- a large percentage of the far left and socialists aren’t going to vote for Harris anyway. Even if Stein endorsed her. (Remember a guy named Bernie back in 2016? Yeah. A lot of the “Bros” voted for Trump to spite the DNC)

                Their minds are made up and are locked in every bit as tight as their folded arms are.

                And I’d wager that she is ACUTELY aware of this. Between her, and all of her advisers- do you think there is no one that understands what she must do to get the votes she needs? Do you seriously think she hasn’t thought of courting the far left vote? She’s not an idiot.

                She knows you exist.

                And she knows you have a track record of not showing up regardless. Over 100,000,000 people didn’t vote in 2016. And we got trump- with warning signs of what he would do.

                We don’t have warning signs now. We know EXACTLY what he will do, and you are all holding your vote hostage over shit you didn’t even care about a year ago.

                So I’m sorry, but your demands are going to fall on willfully deaf ears. The far left vote is not something they are going to risk losing an election over. And historically, candidates that lean too far left…

                Lose.

                And now, at this point, I’m going to say that we’re far too late in the game for me to care about how you feel about this. This is what it is. This is where we are. You can help us keep America breathing by voting for the one person that has a chance to win, or you can pull the plug because of a single-issue that most of you don’t even really understand.

                Either way. Someone is getting elected. Whether you like it or not- with or without your help.

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                    It’s not vitriol. It’s ridicule.

                    And about your link there,

                    1. It didn’t account for the amount of people (1,000,000) that didn’t vote at all- IE: protest votes.
                    2. It didn’t account for Irrelevant Stein votes.

                    And:

                    1 in 10 Bernie Bros voted for Trump.

                    The Bros helped trump

                    So just stop it already. It’s too late to bother with this. If you’re not voting, that’s your right. But please stand aside and stop interfering with those that are.

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                  49 minutes ago

                  It’s literally a video by a pro-Democrat channel of Harris promoting the endorsements.

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                    You two want to imply she actually wants to be associated with that bastard, whereas clearly she’s saying even that monster thinks Trump is worse. It’s obvious that’s what it means and you fucking know it. But for your agenda you’re willing to pretend she is pRoUd of it. I won’t get sucked into a thing with you so don’t bother writing a bunch of crap arguing how fucking proud she is

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        Source on Harris accepting a David duke endorsement? Else willful misinformation/trolling

        Edit though it can be confused because the article is about duke, this thread is not, and my assumption of commie’s correlation was wrong.

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          12 hours ago

          You should read the comment chain before making non sequitur requests. It was literally two comments long. You couldn’t help but have read it before getting here.

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            12 hours ago

            You have no idea how little I can read.

            I shall edit

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              I was judgmental for the original comment seeming to be in bad faith, but have an upvote, that was a damn funny response.

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          I was about to say that that isnt really much of an insult these days, given that its not really much different from insulting a republican by calling them “conservative” in some shortened manner and the cold war ended awhile go, but then I saw the username of the person you were replying to.