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        This is the trolley problem. There are people on the track who will die if you don’t pull the lever. You stand and watch them die and declare, “I didn’t put the train on the track. It’s not my fault.”

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          You forgot some parts. The bystander being asked to pull the lever will enable a genocide by pulling it, and those rich people stuck on the tracks could pull a policy lever and save themselves but they refused to because someone offered them a bribe not to.

          The rich people stuck on the track just want to play the vicitm when they also set up the whole scenario in the fist place by doing crazy stuff. So they crybully about it, and pretend to be victims of the scenario that they themselves created. I’d suggest they save themselves and stop doing stupid stuff. If we save them, how will they learn?

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            The bystander being asked to pull the lever will enable a genocide by pulling it

            That statement shows you are a Trump supporter just like the meme claimed. Trump has committed to the extermination of Palestinians and even said he would deny any refugees.

            The Trolley problem has 1 person on one track and 5 on the other. There’s a huge difference between Trump and Harris’s statements on Palestine.

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              Harris can pull her own lever anytime she wants, and that lever is to stop the weapons shipments. She then earns enough progressive votes to win, saving everyone, instead of looking for all the Dem voters to save her while she supports a far right war thats costing her a lot of votes.

              How you get that I am a trump supporter from what I said is hard to imagine. But I think you’re just making it up to have something … anything, to attack with.

              You need to work on your metaphors, and your basic reasoning, and your rhetoric. If you are going to call people names at least make it interesting and consistent with reality. Otherwise you are just boring.

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                Harris can pull her own lever anytime she wants

                Harris isn’t President!

                Trump has called for the extermination of all of Palestine.

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                  Doesnt matter. She’s in charge of a campaign that we arent sure is winning. If she wants to make sure she will win, drop the weapons shipments and she gets progressive votes. Progressives want to vote for her.

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                    It doesn’t matter that she is legally unable to stop weapon shipments? Wtf?

                    How about I blame you for Palestine? Why haven’t you stopped weapon shipments? It’s your fault. You should be fired from your job for your genocidal inaction. It doesn’t matter that your job can’t do anything about it. It’s your fault.

                    But more seriously, you want Palestine exterminated. Because that’s the alternative. Trump has said he wants Israel to finish the job and will not give refuge to any Palestinians attempting to flee extermination. You want that.

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          Nope, you cannot blame someone for something they didn’t do

          I live in California, if I don’t vote it doesn’t support Trump at all, the electoral votes go onto the Democrats if I vote for them, vote for Trump, or write in SpongeBob, it doesn’t fucking matter

          If you live in a swing state then your point stands better, but I’m so fucking sick of this authoritarian “idgaf where you are if you didn’t vote exactly how I want you to then I’ll be a real pissy bitch about it” shit because I don’t like to vote in line with authoritarians

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            There was no retribution in the meme. Only that the person would be remembered for their lack of action.

            What would you think of me if I saw your house catch fire and instead of calling the fire department, I watched your pets burn to death?

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              There was no retribution in the meme

              Cute that you want to pretend that “well remember this false thing about you” isn’t an implicit threat

              What would you think of me if I saw your house catch fire and instead of calling the fire department, I watched your pets burn to death?

              Not a very good hypothetical as you can actually do something there

              Its cute how hard youll grasp for a reason to justify the authoritarianism though. Gross, but cute

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                It’s not false. Through inaction they allowed something bad to happen. You want to have it both ways.

                Not a very good hypothetical as you can actually do something there

                As if you can’t vote?

                Even if you are in solid Blue State, an overwhelming majority against Trump will send a message to the next fascist attempt.

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                  Through inaction they allowed something bad to happen

                  Again, only if they live somewhere their vote matters. Very simple idea you’re having a shockingly hard time grasping.

                  As if you can’t vote?

                  If. Their. Vote. Matters.

                  Even if you are in solid Blue State, an overwhelming majority against Trump will send a message to the next fascist attempt

                  Lol, no it doesn’t. Nice attempt at a goalpost move, btw, but it won’t work

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                    If you are in a Blue State, it’s only Blue because others voted.

                    Your attitude is, “Someone else will call the fire department. I’ll stand here and watch the house burn.”