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Critical difference:
Trump actively advocates racism:
https://www.npr.org/2024/09/13/g-s1-22583/trump-great-replacement-conspiracy-theory
Harris does not advocate genocide, she advocates an immediate cease fire and a two-state solution:
Political theater from both parties.
Biden and Harris are the current president and VP, happily funding and supporting Israel.
Raise your standards.
They believe, correctly, that Israel has the right to self defense when attacked by countries like Iran.
We are absolutely going to fund and support that defense.
What Israel does with that support is entirely separate from our reasons for providing it.
The funding America is providing is not for defense. The huge criticisms are what Israel is actually using these arms funds for. Genocide and wholesale slaughter.
That’s what Israel is using them for, but that’s NOT why we’re providing them.
Saying America is just giving arms and funding to Israel without minding the intent is very disingenuous at best. It’s abundantly clear what these arms are used for. Now more than ever.
I don’t think we will agree on this topic.
That is why we differ on who we are willing to vote for and how high or how low our standards have become.
In practice, at this point in time, what does raising your standards mean to you?
Sitting in a room in moscow with a dozen other shitposters happy they aren’t being send to Ukraine.
There are only two people on the ballot in enough states that they could possibly win the presidency.
They are trump and Kamala Harris.
It absolutely sucks and I wish it wasn’t true, but a vote for anyone except one of them is exactly the same as leaving that position blank.
Of the two, Kamala is less for genocide and there’s a slim chance she’ll actually take a stand against it.
OP knows this. They’re trying to get Trump elected.
Which… he’s very pro-genocide. Which, if you happen to be not completely 100% his goon…you’re probably on his “okay, you can kill them” list.
The deal: one of these two people is going to become president at this point in the election cycle.
With that in mind, anything that is a deal-maker or deal-breaker must be interpreted in light of the available choices.
Therefore, Trump supporters have decided that MORE racism is not a deal-breaker.
Kamala supporters have decided that LESS genocide is not a deal-breaker.
And non-voters and third-party voters have decided that more racism AND more genocide isn’t a deal-breaker, as long as they don’t have to do something nasty, like treat voting like a civic duty and not choosing their favorite color.
You and your reasonable takes! This is the internet, we’ve got no time for that here!
Sorry, what I meant was IF WE ALL VOTE FOR JILL STEIN RIGHT NOW SHE WILL BE PRESIDENT AND SOLVE THE UKRONAZI MENACE or something like that
Much improved and twice as appropriate.
Talk about a disingenuous argument.
Imagine thinking that Trump would somehow be better for Palestine.
“(Trump) hasn’t expressed, as far as I know, any concerns about the humanitarian crisis in Gaza,” said Dov Waxman, director of the Nazarian Center for Israeli Studies at the University of California, Los Angeles. “And I don’t think if he were to be president again, he would pressure the Israeli government to minimize Palestinian civilian casualties or to allow more humanitarian aid in.”
“Not rhetorically, but in terms of really sidelining the Palestinians,” said Nadav Shelef, a political science and Israeli studies professor at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. “Trump took a pro- Israeli, right-wing position that effectively gave Israel everything it wanted without giving anything to the Palestinians.”
In 2020, Trump presented a two-state solution plan that would have limited the sovereign powers of a Palestinian state and allowed Israel to control security over the Palestinian state, which would be demilitarized. Israel would also have sovereignty over certain parts of the occupied West Bank.
In 2019, Trump’s Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Israeli settlements in the West Bank did not violate international law. […] The Trump administration was essentially adopting Israel’s interpretation of international law, Shelef said.
Donald Trump and Joe Biden on Israel and Gaza: Comparing their positions
If you think that treatment of Palestine is a deciding factor between these candidates, and that a second Trump administration would somehow be better than a Harris administration in that regard, then you are a fool.
So if we take that brainless argument off the table, then what we have is a racist vs. a non-racist, which makes the choice fairly simple.
That is why some are for supporting the third party that is anti-genocide instead of the duopoly.
Both Trump and Harris will continue the status quo.
Wait, has Trump come out against the actions of Isreal in Gaza or even against genocide as a general concept?
Trump has a long history of supporting Isreal and removing support for / directly opposing Palestine. Anybody else remember Trump’s “Peace to Prosperity” plan?
