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    Federal law prohibits anyone from knowingly or willfully paying or offering to pay or accepting payment for registering to vote or voting (42 USC § 1973i©). It applies to primaries and elections that have candidates on the ballot for the office of president, vice president, presidential elector, or member of Congress, whether or not the violation alleges payment related to a candidate for one of those particular offices. It includes criminal penalties for violations. - https://www.cga.ct.gov/2001/rpt/2001-R-0132.htm

    It sucks when Elon does this shit just as much as when someone does it for your team, guys.

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      They’re not paying you to vote, they’re paying for you to apologize. I’m sure they have sufficient legal backing.

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      The CAH folks have pretty good lawyers. Judging purely on the fact that they formed a Super PAC, they likely have good legal cover.

      I found this pretty interesting:

      How do you know who didn’t vote? We formed a Super PAC and bought the personal voting records of every American citizen from a data broker we found on the internet. It’s pretty fucked up.

      And later on:

      How do you know who’s “blue leaning”? We got your partisan lean from the same data broker who sold us your voting history. You wouldn’t believe how easy it was for us to get this stuff. So fucked up!

      If they are basing this on which primary you vote in, it’s going to be terrible since people like me who live in a swing state vote in the Republican primary since that’s a more effective use of my vote than the Democratic primary.

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        I question the accuracy of their political lean assessment. I’m blazingly progressive and it has me down as “purple”. Bitch, I’m a socialist.

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        I dont doubt that they have good lawyers but the law doesn’t just have penalties for the people paying out, it also has penalties for accepting it. Even if they were offering free legal services to people who participate it still wouldn’t be worth it.

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      Hm, the tweet says they need to make a voting plan, not that they need to show that they’ve officially registered or voted. Loophole?

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        Try giving that loophole explanation to a Trump appointed judge and see how far that gets you. Do not risk federal charges for this stupid shit.

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          Try giving that loophole explanation to any reasonable and professional judge and see how far that gets you.

          Flip the sides and I would be surprised if a Trump appointed judge didnt accept some kind of bullshit loophole like this.

          I love CAH as much as the next degen but this feels iffy at best. But also they presumable ran this passed at least one lawyer who said ‘fuck it lets ball’ so maybe there is a leg to stand on here.

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            I really do not think its worth gambling with federal charges over (up to*)$100, but if you’re willing to risk it by all means, submit to their public shaming for a pittance, or implicate yourself by contributing. I just want people to know what they’re getting into.

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              My guy, I’m agreeing with your point. This probably wouldn’t hold up as legal in court, but also IANAL.

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                apologies, I misread. i’m maybe a little more annoyed about this than I realized.

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    I’m pretty sure they’re using the money from Elmo using a plot of their land they bought to stall the border wall

    It’s just a shame we don’t have an option this election for a president against a border wall…

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      They said they were sharing the Elmo money with those who originally helped them buy that plot.

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    I will absolutely share this around after checking it out myself, but what is a good response for the inevitable “they’re bribing people to vote”?

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      They are, but they’re doing it to troll Elon offering $47 for referrals of swing voters willing to sign petitions supporting conservative ideals.

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      They’re paying for an apology for not voting in 2020, there’s no obligation to vote in 2024.

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      Now that you mention it, anyone still using Twitter could just go right now and tweet Donald Trump is a human toilet for free. And they could right now. Go do it.

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      Great way for me to learn Ohio is considered a lost cause I guess? Not sure if i disagree (or care), for that matter; I want out.

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      All I did was put in my current zip code (different than 2020’s), phone, first, and last name, and it pulled up my full name and age and current city and political leaning (very blue).

      Wild that they can just buy this data.

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        Are there any more funny jokes after that button? I only get

        Hi, non-American person.

        Unfortunately, only US citizens (and permanent residents) are eligible to participate in this whole thing. Sorry Canucks and weird British perverts.

        (Which is still funny)

        And how much did they offer you?

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      Lmao

      Is there some way I can force Elon Musk to pay $47 to Cards Against Humanity PAC?

      Funny you should ask! If you’re a registered voter in PA, GA, NV, AZ, NC, WI, or MI, just type your name into this dumb website for his PAC, put “[email protected]” as your referrer, and they’ll be legally obligated to pay us $47. The more people who do this, the more Musk money we’ll get to un-fuck America.

      If he doesn’t pay up, we’ll sue him again.

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        ahahaha!!

        Bad news possibly: are the MAGA schemers gonna send people to the Cards Against Humanity site and then ask for a $50 donation to even things out?

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          Cards against humanity is using acquired voter data to determine how much you’ll get. It’s highest $100 for “left leaning in swing state”, someone determined to be right leaning will probably get a <$47 reward, keeping it net positive.

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        The whole FAQ is pretty amazing. My favorites:

        How do you know who didn’t vote?

        We formed a Super PAC and bought the personal voting records of every American citizen from a data broker we found on the internet. It’s pretty fucked up.

        The data you have on me is wrong! I didn’t vote in 2020 and it says I did, or it says I’m red-leaning when I’m definitely blue, or whatever. I demand you fix this.

        Consider the teachings of Buddhism: “The seed of suffering in you may be strong, but don’t wait until you have no more suffering before allowing yourself to be happy.”

        Now, calm your mind and meditate on the knowledge that Cards Against Humanity does not have time for this shit

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          I didn’t vote in 2020 and it says I did, or it says I’m red-leaning when I’m definitely blue, or whatever.

          Realistically they can’t know who you voted for in the past. That you voted is public record, what ballots were voted is public record, but not a connection between voter and ballot. So how you lean is basically a guess based on information they could have (given what it says about me I’m guessing that lack of party affiliation and being in an extremely red state (I used to vote a mixed ticket, but solid blue since 2018 on the grounds that anyone affiliating themselves with the same party that could nominate Trump doesn’t deserve my vote) are the main factors that drove the assumptions about my leanings that it provided.

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      Now that’s how you build a proper mobile website!

      Also

      I used to love your card games before you got all political.

      Your mom used to love you before you got so fucking stupid.

      LMFAO, I should steal that and use it against those transphobic turds on Xitter complaining about Godot

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        CAH never really drew me in. I got it was funny madlibs, but I just didn’t care. Now that they got all political, I may get some for my shelf, they deserve it.

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    So this is probably a plan to call out Elon musk’s stupid “pay to sign a petition” plan. Basically just buying votes. The more attention these schemes get, the more likely they will be made officially illegal.

    Sort of a Satanic Temple maneuver. I like it.

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      From Apologize.lol

      Cards Against Humanity is exploiting a legal loophole to pay America’s blue-leaning non-voters to (1) apologize for not voting last time, (2) walk us through a step-by-step plan of how they’d vote this time, and (3) post “Donald Trump is a human toilet” on social media. This whole thing should probably be illegal—so quick, give us your money before they change the law!

      Highly recommend giving the whole thing a read. It’s pretty funny (and messed up)

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    Her’s how you might also be able to help:

    Is there some way I can force Elon Musk to pay $47 to Cards Against Humanity PAC?

    Funny you should ask! If you’re a registered voter in PA, GA, NV, AZ, NC, WI, or MI, just type your name into this dumb website for his PAC, put “[email protected]” as your referrer, and they’ll be legally obligated to pay us $47. The more people who do this, the more Musk money we’ll get to un-fuck America.

    If he doesn’t pay up, we’ll sue him again.

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    Can they target the electoral college since they’re the ones that overturned the popular vote in the first place???

    I know this is a response to musk’s bullshit, but this makes it sound like trump won the popular vote in 2016. He did not.

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      Read their FAQ (it’s quite informative and pretty funny too!). Afaik you can if you actually didn’t vote the last time, lean blue, and are eligible to vote in a swing state

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    I love how we’ve managed to come full circle. In the early 1900s buying votes was open and totally normalized.

    Obviously it’s fucked that Musk started this, and while it’s pretty rad to see CAH surpass his dumb ass, this isn’t going to be the end of it. This is just the genie getting loose.

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      I love how we’ve managed to come full circle. In the early 1900s buying votes was open and totally normalized.

      Literally one of the reasons we switched to a secret ballot (it’s less effective to buy votes if you can’t know who they voted for) in the first place. The first places to switch started in the 1890s, and the last state to switch over did so in 1950.

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            I think it’s because Musk is offering money to people who get other people to sign up and pledge to vote Trump.

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              It doesn’t say anything about voting voting Trump, just blindly saying you support the 1st and 2nd amendment. Like I will gladly and openly say I completely agree with that, but there’s not the slightest chance in hell I’m voting for Trump.

              Cards Against Humanity however is very carefully threading the needle around committing election fraud. They’re paying you to make a plan to vote, but not based on whether or not you actually follow that plan and vote. The latter is very explicitly turnout buying, what CAH is doing is possibly just far enough away to be legal. I’d be shocked if no one uses them over it though as close as it is.

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                just blindly saying you support the 1st and 2nd amendment. Like I will gladly and openly say I completely agree with

                Which funny because they’re simultaneously phasing out parts off the first amendment.

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                CAH is also clearly saying “what we are doing is fucked up and shouldn’t be legal.” They are bringing attention to the fact that this shouldn’t be legal to encourage laws to be updated.

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                  Yeah, but CAH is cutting it much closer than Musk. Bribing people to sign a petition that says you support basic constitutional rights you already have is a lot farther away from buying votes or buying turnout than what CAH is doing, which is walking as close to the line as they think they can get away with to show just how far out the line is.

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    One could only hope if they did end up at an epstein party it’s at least good