If you are in public, like a bus, restaurant, store, public space, etc.
Your phone shouldnt make any fucking noise at all besides ringing and the text ping noise.
And if you’re gonna answer it, don’t put it on speakerphone, and respect teh fact that everyone within 300 feet of you doesnt want to be party to your fucking phonecall.
I was at a party and another person was watching videos on their phone without headphones while everyone was watching a movie. We were all too polite to say anything because it was part of a three-day meetup for people who had been talking to each other on a forum for years and no one wanted to be critical of anyone else, but wow did it piss me off.
Let’s be real, teenagers are always assholes. There’s a lot of social pressure for teens to be assholes. Look at any teen movie for example, the plot is pretty much always about how adults are wrong about everything and how freeing yourself to be more of an asshole (and generally louder in every way) is the way to go.
It’s not just teens doing. There are full grown adults being audio assholes all over the place.
As I understand it, people mostly change their mind (and thus behavior) for two reasons.
The first is in-group beliefs. If someone sees other people in their in-group believing a thing or behaving in a way, they’re more likely to adopt that. Possibly the people who play audio in public, their friends and peers are the same way. But if you also might be in one of their groups, like a college kid to another college kid, or a junior professional to another, talking to them might make a difference. But if you’re like a 59 year rich old white guy, telling a 16 year old non-white poorer kid is unlikely to land, because they probably see you as outgroup.
The other thing that changes minds is horrible trauma. Like, if you smashed their head into the bus window, took their phone and transferred all their money (via venmo or whatever), then tossed the phone out the window, they might change their mind about being a public irritant. Maybe. They might also take some other lesson instead. But either way you’d go to jail for several crimes, so probably don’t do that.
Fun fact: allegedly you’re legally obligated to rip the noice excreting device from their dirty little paws and throw it into the ground.
If you have enough money to afford a modern cellphone, you can pay $20 for crappy bluetooth headphones like the rest of us. It’s very interesting that it’s never an otherwise very respectful and thoughtful individual whose playing their music loudly in a public space, there’s always one or two other markers letting you know they’re just always an asshole.
Everybody has different ears and their brains process sound differently. What might not seem very bad and chill to you can be extremely disturbing to somebody else and vice versa. It’s no one’s fault, life just sucks sometimes. Be considerate within reason.
Nah, I listen to my breadtube on 11. Its a public space, and if you don’t like what I’m listening to I would love to have a discussion about it.
Movie theaters are public spaces. Do you do that in movie theaters while the movie is playing? How about libraries? How about a cemetery during a burial?
Nope I’m there for the movie. Libraries are there for reading and studying. Cemeteries are there for grieving family and friends. I consider those things to be an event that occupies my attention.
If I’m in a public space without something that should occupy my attention, I’ll listen to my discussion-based audio however I wanna.
And if someone else doesn’t feel like it should occupy their attention and play music in those places? Why is what should occupy your attention more important than what should occupy their attention?
Does someone not monitor disruptive behavior? The theater worker, the funeral home attendant, librarians etc.
If I’m having a discussion do I need to worry about others listening to my discussion?
You above:
Its a public space, and if you don’t like what I’m listening to I would love to have a discussion about it.
So if someone monitoring that behavior wants it to stop, you expect them to discuss whether or not it should be stopped.
Or does that only apply to you and no one else gets to justify playing music at top volume where other people don’t want to hear it?
Just discussions, if someone is arguing in a space and its disruptive then, yes.
If someone is listening to a discussion on their phone how is that different from listening to a discussion in person?
Personally music doesn’t bother me either, I’ll just tell them my opinion on their music if I felt that strongly. Or just be a normal person and bump to it, if i like the music.
And now you’re changing what you said. You were talking about listening to music. You said if someone doesn’t like the loud music you’re listening to in a public space, you want to have a discussion with them about it.
So if someone else is listening to loud music at a cemetery, you should expect them to want to discuss it with whoever tells them to turn it off before they turn the music off.
Unless you think rules that apply to you don’t apply to others. Which is it?
Yes, It IS a public space. It’s not just YOUR space.
you owe all of us a lot of tax money that went into making that space meant for everyone. Not just you alone.
There’s your discussion as far as anyone doesn’t owe you one.
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At least your sink hole can be blocked online easier these days.
Are loud discussions not allowed in public?
Oh my god this is so true
Makes me so irrationally angry especially when the person in question keeps cutting them off halfway through sentences
Ex used to do this all the time
I was in a train replacement coach the other week, and sitting behind me were some guys who were watching YT Shorts or TikTok (Probably the latter) over speakers. I didn’t have my own earphones with me, so I had to hear his shit the whole way through.
If I was any sharper, I would have asked: “What gives you the confidence that any random person nearby appreciates what you’re hearing?”
I find that this works for most of my interactions with strangers. Question what media they are consuming and start a conversation from there.
If they felt so inclined to play their audio loudly I see it as an opportunity to engage with that.
Literally my school bus, there’s like 50 students inside at any given time, more than half of them blast tiktoks, shorts, reels or other bullshit, the rest are either yelling and acting macho, or really wanna gtfo of that bus.
Well thanks for the inside intel, because I briefly would consider it when I saw the local busses’ “Now hiring drivers!” stickers but then imagined this is what would make it pretty much hell every day. :D
Just put in your own headphones. Problem solved. But I guess you can also continue to complain to the void I guess 🤷🏻
- I do often wear them with nothing playing, but even that impacts my situational awareness, which is even more impacted if I put music on.
- I don’t want to be listening to music, a podcast, etc., right now, I just want to hear the low, white noise of the environment. This is especially applicable when out in nature.
Just like drug addicts, these people are addicted to dopamine and they will do anything to get it even if it makes everyone else uncomfortable
I think TikTok format video players are straight up drugs. It’s a real physical addiction which even has withdrawal symptoms
They are so appealing, I do avoid them but it’s just sad to watch everyone else become a victim of those
Physical addiction is a stretch
It doesn’t actually matter. A addiction will ruin lives if unchecked. No matter if physical or psychological. It’s all about definitions at that point too.
Where does physical end and where does psychological start.
It’s not a matter of one is worse than the other.
Why?
Is Tik Tok a physical substance entering your body? Just making sure we’re talking about the same thing.
some folks firmly believe everyone and everything exists solely to entertain them snd they cannot fathom that anyone else wouldnt feel the same
Literally had a dude do this when the VP debate was on, and he was all cheering and pumping his fist soyboying about JD Vance
Did you punch him in the face? I that would hold up in court.
