Throughout the 19th century, news reports and medical journal articles almost always use the plant’s formal name, cannabis. Numerous accounts say that “marijuana” came into popular usage in the U.S. in the early 20th century because anti-cannabis factions wanted to underscore the drug’s “Mexican-ness.” It was meant to play off of anti-immigrant sentiments.

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    I’m the United States drug prohibition is historically ALWAYS about racism. The exception being weed which was about racism and anti-war protestors.

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    This is an interesting read. English isn’t my native language, and while I’m quite proficient, I lack a lot of cultural context, particularly when it comes to American English. My partner is American, and through/with them I’ve learned a lot of problematic phrases and expressions. It’s baffling just how much language is used to dehumanise, other, and discriminate against people.

    That’s not to say it doesn’t happen in my native tongue, it definitely does, but I guess it’s more baffling when it’s something that’s unfamiliar to you.

    Marijuana obviously sounds like it’s rooted in Spanish, but I never thought much about it. If you’d asked me, I’d just wager a guess that it’s the Spanish term for it. I hate how oftentimes when I start poking at these preconceived notions, an uglier reality reveals itself. It’s never as benign as I initially believe.

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      It’s baffling just how much language is used to dehumanise, other, and discriminate against people.

      Yeah, such language sucks, of course, but since right now that connotation of marijuana, for example, seems to be lost - why the hell worry about it. There are worse things which are not in the language, but in the way “protected group” works in the heads of some homo sapiens specimens.

      I’ve recently had my comment deleted for answering “Armenian Genocide was bad, but not even close to the Holocaust” with “Holocaust was bad, but not even close to the Armenian Genocide” and in the next sentence clarifying that for me they are on the same level, but people for whom one of these statements is acceptable are not people.

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      Interesting! What are some other examples of common American English terms inconspicuously being used to dehumanize people?

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    They left out some of the worst of it.

    Harry J Ainslinger was the first head of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, predecessor to the DEA. Here’s one of his quotes on the topic:

    There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others.

    That was back in the early 19th century.

    More recently we have this from Nixon’s domestic policy head:

    In a 1994 interview, Mr. Ehrlichman said, “You want to know what this was really all about?” He went on:

    “The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and Black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or Black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and Blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

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      Just lol @ the notion that smoking weed magically makes white women attracted to you, I can’t believe people fell for that bullshit

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        Typical maga thinking honestly. Why wouldn’t she want to be with a “real man” (you know, a god fearing conservative macho white guy) instead of a guy like that? (you know, a non-white guy, or a soyboy, or whatever slur they are using at the moment) - must be drugs!

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          Yeah “why is she with a black guy instead of me? Must be the weed” Like, no you dumbass he treats her like a person and you treat her like something you deaerve

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      While I agree with most of what you said. The John Ehrlichman quote is pretty suspicious.

      It was released in 2014, 20 years after the interview. Because allegedly, despite the intense claims and weirdness reported (Ehrlichman suddenly bursting out with this monologue while pushing the interviewer out the door), the interviewer completely forgot about it until rereading his notes 20 years later, while also trying to promote a new book about Nixon. You’d think when interviewing someone that influential, and having them drop a reveal like that would’ve made it into his book at the time.

      But there has never been any corroboration from anyone else about Ehrlichman making these claims, his friends and family say he never said anything like that to them. And somehow, not a single other corroborater to this big conspiracy has come forward.

      Ehrlichman was long dead when this claim was released, and thus unable to verify he said it. Most news sources wouldn’t even report on it until buzzfeed spread it around, and comedians like ‘Adam Ruins Everything’ spread it as fact. Not hating on you, just hate disinformation. Nixon did so many fucked up things, yet somehow one bullshit quote by an author desperate for attention gets all the hype.

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        Never questioned it, but that’s one hell of a long statement. Can anyone string that many sentences together, and so clearly?

        I was devouring On Writing yesterday and I could see Stephen King blasting that as bad dialog. Bad as in, unbelievable in a work of fiction.

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      Wouldn’t be surprised to find out that some Project 2025 types had their slimy tendrils in the fentanyl crisis

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      That was back in the early 19th century.

      I think you mean 20th century. There was no jazz in the 1800s.

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        I did, I blame that I’d been awake about 5 min when posting. :D Will fix thank you!

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      don’t forget psychadelics had the same fate! made illegal becuase they had “corrosive effects on cultural values” (had to put hippies in jail for being too peaceful)

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        Yep, conservatives throughout history have been the party of taking things away and making sure everyone hates everyone else.

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          Always amazes me that the very people who preach their rights and freedom are the very ones who want to take them all away. Oh, right, they want to take your rights away not theirs.

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      Pot, weed, grass, ganja, herb, trees, green, chronic, reefer, doobage, dagga, dank, tea, …

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        I feel like pretty much all of those have negative connotations as slang, more than cannabis, which is just the scientific name.

        Edit: Although weed is pretty accurate. Trying to get it to stop growing is a problem in the right climate.

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        I’m gonna smoke me a Mary J. Wana
        Y’all ain’t can stop me, I’m totally gonna
        Bake me a stoned like a sunny iguana
        I’m gonna smoke me a Mary J. Wana

        I’m gonna hash pipe to high me my head
        Mellow my jello from born until dead
        Teq’ me no 'quila, no pills blue and red
        I’m gonna hash pipe to high me my head

        I’m gonna weed me some grassical pots
        Look you my dime bag 'cause that’s what I gots
        Ain’t gonna shoot me no heroin shots
        Just gonna weed me some grassical pots

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    It was also used as a racist commercial to scare people off… Something along the line:

    Devils lettuce is used by black people who rape your wifes and children.

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    Jokes on them, they could’ve just called it Kush to acknowledge its Himalayanness. Americans definitely would’ve understood that

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    Yup. Marijuana has always had widespread use by those from formerly Spanish-colonised cultures which are Hispanics and Filipinos.

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      Filipinos!? Are you sure about that? My wife is from these and is horrified at the mere suggestion of it. She doesn’t talk shit about people doing it, but having it around is a hard NO for her. She’s even leery about me getting mack on medical.

      Speaking broadly, Asians have a hard line stance against drugs, figured that was her thing. Maybe she’s just worried about being an immigrant on the wrong side of the law?

      And yes, they’re the Mexicans of Asia.

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        I mean historically Filipinos who migrated to the United States were also one of the wide users of marijuana along with Hispanics. And among those communities, the cannabis/marijuana did not have had any negative connotation until the war on drugs.

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      I don’t think it’s more racist, but I definitely don’t like the idea that it was called marijuana to create a negative connotation with Latin Americans, but now that public opinion is coming around on it, people no longer want to associate it with the Latin American name.

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        We called it marijuana before it was legal. Marijuana is a term that’s obviously linked to Latin communities. So while it’s illegal, we’re OK with calling it something that’s linked to a community, BUT once it’s legal, suddenly we’re trying to erase that connection. Like it’s too good for that community anymore. It would be less racist to continue calling it marijuana WHILE recognizing the historical racism and celebrating the culture that ensured the plant was still here when it was legalized. Ignoring that contribution is like appropriation. Erasing the Latin influences in marijuana culture once the plant is legal isn’t anti racist.

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          I like this take but it relies on a critical analysis that isn’t going to occur to most people. Most people aren’t even aware up the word’s racist origins.

          I think calling it cannabis helps distance it from it’s illegal past. There’s a lot of more conservative people out there that still think of “marijuana” as something dangerous and criminal that is used by disreputable people. I think calling it “canabis” will help shed that negative connotation.

          For the record, I call it “weed.”