Let’s put this in perspective. bibi and Isreal is committing Genocide. Genocide has happened and is still happening. Americans have provided weapons of war and continue to provide weapons of war to Isreal as they have all their allies. The only thing America has failed to do is pressure bibi to stop. Do they have that power? I wouldn’t know. Some people claim to know.
In 2024 we aren’t voting for genocide. We are voting for candidates all claiming to know the exact right thing to do on this particular issue. Will any of this result in turning back the clock on what’s been done? No. Should the united states president to be able to midgate the continued conflict? Possibly.
I’m going to remind everyone again. America is not the world police. You don’t want them as the world police. You can continue your campaign against the democrats all you want but please. I beg you. Look at who your allies are in that fight. bibi himself would cum his pants to see the orange dictator take office.
because our two party and single choice voting systems suck. But it’s the world we live in and we have to do the best we can with it.
so if your only two options are more genocide or less genocide, which are you going to choose? And if your answer is “none of the above” remember that effectively counts as a half vote for more genocide.
Applying a conservative estimate of four indirect deaths per one direct death9 to the 37 396 deaths reported, it is not implausible to estimate that up to 186 000 or even more deaths could be attributable to the current conflict in Gaza. Using the 2022 Gaza Strip population estimate of 2 375 259, this would translate to 7·9% of the total population in the Gaza Strip. A report from Feb 7, 2024, at the time when the direct death toll was 28 000, estimated that without a ceasefire there would be between 58 260 deaths (without an epidemic or escalation) and 85 750 deaths (if both occurred) by Aug 6, 2024.
This was before Israel began cutting off water, fuel, and medicine to Jenin, as part of their effort to expand the conflict. It ignores the thousands of casualties in the West Bank as well, which will continue to increase as Israel escalates.
yes and we should keep pressuring them to do so. But this post is about comparing Harris to Trump, and how they do not have the same policy. I’d much rather try to convince Harris to adjust her position than Trump
Within the confines of the law, your best chance at pressuring Harris to change her position is to very vocally demand the Democrats cease support of Israel immediately, and that if they don’t then you will not support or vote for them. What other leverage do you have over them?
I want zero genocide
The Democrats want genocide
The Republicans want genocide
I want zero genocide
me too, but that’s not an option.
so, are you going to vote for more genocide, or less genocide?
Let’s put this in perspective. bibi and Isreal is committing Genocide. Genocide has happened and is still happening. Americans have provided weapons of war and continue to provide weapons of war to Isreal as they have all their allies. The only thing America has failed to do is pressure bibi to stop. Do they have that power? I wouldn’t know. Some people claim to know.
In 2024 we aren’t voting for genocide. We are voting for candidates all claiming to know the exact right thing to do on this particular issue. Will any of this result in turning back the clock on what’s been done? No. Should the united states president to be able to midgate the continued conflict? Possibly.
I’m going to remind everyone again. America is not the world police. You don’t want them as the world police. You can continue your campaign against the democrats all you want but please. I beg you. Look at who your allies are in that fight. bibi himself would cum his pants to see the orange dictator take office.
Why?
because our two party and single choice voting systems suck. But it’s the world we live in and we have to do the best we can with it.
so if your only two options are more genocide or less genocide, which are you going to choose? And if your answer is “none of the above” remember that effectively counts as a half vote for more genocide.
Which side is less genocide?
Remember, The number of dead, The number of refugees, And the number of destroyed buildings, all outnumber what occured in 1948. By several times.
This is the worst ethnic cleansing the region has seen in centuries. Even Saddam racked up less kills when he was gassing Kurds.
There were more than 5 hundred thousand people killed in the Iran-Iraq war
You might have forgotten because that’s already 0,4 centuries ago
War is not the extermination of an ethnic group. Deaths on a battlefield are not dead children buried under rubble.
You are comparing the battle of the bulge with a death camp.
Do you think there were no children killed in the Iran-Iraq war?
You think a death on the battlefield is equivalent to bombing a hospital?
The Anfal Campaign was what, 200,000 killed?
Unless the Palestinian death toll, already horrific, has quintupled, I don’t think your math checks out.
Applying a conservative estimate of four indirect deaths per one direct death9 to the 37 396 deaths reported, it is not implausible to estimate that up to 186 000 or even more deaths could be attributable to the current conflict in Gaza. Using the 2022 Gaza Strip population estimate of 2 375 259, this would translate to 7·9% of the total population in the Gaza Strip. A report from Feb 7, 2024, at the time when the direct death toll was 28 000, estimated that without a ceasefire there would be between 58 260 deaths (without an epidemic or escalation) and 85 750 deaths (if both occurred) by Aug 6, 2024.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01169-3/fulltext
This was before Israel began cutting off water, fuel, and medicine to Jenin, as part of their effort to expand the conflict. It ignores the thousands of casualties in the West Bank as well, which will continue to increase as Israel escalates.
Okay but it doesn’t seem like that’s a viable option right now
It is a viable option. There is nothing preventing the Democrats from opposing genocide
Biden could do so tomorrow. Harris could then continue that policy
That’s not what I meant and you know that.
yes and we should keep pressuring them to do so. But this post is about comparing Harris to Trump, and how they do not have the same policy. I’d much rather try to convince Harris to adjust her position than Trump
Within the confines of the law, your best chance at pressuring Harris to change her position is to very vocally demand the Democrats cease support of Israel immediately, and that if they don’t then you will not support or vote for them. What other leverage do you have over them?