cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/18475086
I’m not against those who work for sex, but the idea to earn for a living doesn’t seem nice. IMO, sex should be for 2 people (or more for others who prefer polyamory) who wants to be intimate/romantic with each other. My point is money should not be the purpose.
it should be criminalized and it shouldn’t be financially compulsory for the desperate
No, I don’t approve of any work. All work should be abolished, including sex work.
If you want the benefits of society you must contribute. Put your money where your mouth is and go start a hippy commune somewhere.
Work as much or as little as you like! Benefit from the fruits of your own labor! Don’t ask for a steel ax or nylon tent though. Such goods require an industrial society.
Yes, all work should be crime. Thanks dad
I believe a victimless crime shouldn’t be, and that unless a very strong case is made otherwise for a specific person, people can decide what they want for themselves.
Of course people being forced into sex work is bad, but then so is people being forced into working kitchens or call centers. If they decide on it voluntarily that’s all good and well.
Also, since I can’t resist:
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ofsex workYes, it’s my job to personally rubber stamp every truck stop girl. /s
Sex work is work. Therefore, yes, I support it.
Its been said in this thread better than I can - but I wish the people who argue sex work is immoral because you’re “selling your body” would apply that same logic to labor.
For most of us, our body is the only capital we have and were taught to devalue that capital into oblivion so those who deplete that capital the most make the smallest possible piece of the pie.
I approve. It think it should be legalized. I’m not sold on the libertarian view of complete decriminalization though. Capitalism is innately exploitative, and If it’s not regulated to maintain workers’ safety, and rights, then I’d expect working conditions to be just as bad if not worse for the laborers, which I think is a big reason why so many people want to keep it outlawed in the first place.
which I think is a big reason why so many people want to keep it outlawed in the first place.
Well, that and religious indoctrination.
See, I wasn’t really sure, but I think this thread has helped convince me that it’s probably okay. I was for sex work before, but then I had heard that countries with more lax sex work laws had more human trafficking. But that might just be a result of work in our moder capitalist hellscape. Part of me thinks sex work should be illegal until capitalist is abolished, but part of that is probably just some ingrained puritan attitudes of sex and personal philosophy about its intimacy. It doesn’t mean the state should ban people from selling it and it doesn’t mean I have to partake if it’s legal.
I’ll probably keep reading this thread to evolve my attitudes on the subject more, but thanks everyone for the interesting comments on a subject I don’t think about much (sex work… Sex itself I think about all the time lol).
I think it should be legal, with extra protections for the workers to protect them from exploitation and abuse. Unfortunately though, our entire economic system is exploitative, so I’m not sure if it would ever entirely be by choice that somebody turned to prostitution, though labor itself is never entirely by choice. I only work at my job because I have to, not because I really want to. A worker selling their body to perform legal labor for money is on par with a person selling their body for another’s sexual gratification. Making it illegal just makes it worse for the workers, since they’re obviously going to do it anyways and won’t get any protections from the law.
Sex doesn’t always have to be for love, equating it with love is something religious people have forced on the world to get over their own religion-induced guilt over the whole thing. Bonobos have a crazy amount of sex and use it for all sorts of social interactions, it’s something animals do to feel good and relieve stress. There’s instances of other primates even engaging in prostitution as well, where they trade sex for food, and prostitution is one of, if not the oldest job among humans.
No matter what happens, so long as humans exist, they will want to fuck how they like. Its natural for a product of evolution to do it, the taboos against it exist only in our minds (aside from age limitations and informed consent; we still need to be rational) The more it gets stigmatized the worse it’ll get for people not already on top of the social heap.
There are other ways in which we sell our bodies in exchange for resources. A lot of people point to soldiers, but for those of us in knowledge work, we sell our brains in exchange for stress and depression if things aren’t in balance. Think about construction workers who break their wrists drilling down floorboards, or caregivers that expose their immune systems to a high quantity of kids who are likely to spread any bugs they pick up because they don’t know better.
Sex work just involves people selling entertainment or enjoyment in a more intimate setting. The fact that it is intimate doesn’t change that it’s work, and that resources can be exchanged for service.
I think this all comes down to stereotypes specific to a certain culture. Hoping I see my culture in America make it more legal so we don’t have some of the issues that come from this market not being legal
Absolutely because then we can start talking about protecting and helping the sex workers that need help, and give them a chance to work in a safe environment.
Sex worker have been a thing since at least when we invented writings and still going strong today.
Might be time to give sex workers the dignity and respect they deserve.
Sex worker have been a thing since at least when we invented writings and still going strong today.
I’m pretty sure it was a thing before writing, there was just nobody to write about it.
I know, but we have at least some writings to prove that it happened back then. But sex workers probably exist since the dawn of humanity in a form or another.
It seems like you answered the question “should it be legal”, not “do you approve of it”.
I could technically disapprove of something and still want it to be legalized, but you normally approve what you want to legalize.
But to be clear, I approve of sex workers because to me, it is a job like any other. But since we built society on puritan values, they get a bad reputation and a terrible work situation.
I could technically disapprove of something and still want it to be legalized, but you normally approve what you want to legalize
A very enlightened and humble attitude. I commend you.
Nope. I believe people should carry more dignity than that.
What’s your profession and why do you presume there is more dignity in that over sex work?
See how quickly you resort to thinly-veiled insults?
If someone thinks sex work lacks dignity, they clearly have a weird puritanical fixation and they have a lot of growing up to do. Sex workers deserve workers’ rights, same as any other profession.
See, he downvotes and moves on without looking up the Nordic model. You can take the redditor out of reddit, but you can’t always take the reddit out of the redditor.
I know an absolute waste of time when I see one
Proud ignoramus like you belongs on reddit for sure. Keep huffing your own farts and jorking your pringus.
You clearly don’t even have the attention span to understand what the Nordic Model is lol.
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I don’t approve of sex work because all the demand is created by capitalism
the same can be said for many work
blue collar workers are definitely “selling their body” in which the work takes a huge toll on their health
blue collar workers dont have to routinely get raped as part of there job description
they literally could be protected with the same thing that protects blue collar workers from getting treated with physical violence currently.
You sure?
Netherlands recently ruled a pimp can sue its prostitute if they refuse sex enough times for breach of employment contract. I dont think you understand the full rammifications of legalizing it, employment law goes both ways.
Always a great question to ask software nerds. Great thread idea dude!
