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    3 months ago

    Can regular coffee drinkers notice the difference taste-wise? I’m the opposite of a coffee connoisseur and I drink any kind of brewed and instant coffee (including decaf) and can’t tell the difference.

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      3 months ago

      Side by side, trying one after the other. I can tell they taste different. But walking into a place blind, and only getting one. I think it might be hard to tell.

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      3 months ago

      I’m a pretty avid coffee enjoyer, and I can’t tell the difference. The stuff that you can buy chemically decaffeinated are made by brands that generally sell lower quality coffee beans in the first place

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        3 months ago

        Good roasters also usually have a decaf roast on the go. You can taste the difference, but if you’re just getting some random restaurant’s drip coffee, you’d probably just assume a bunch of things are off about it anyway, so “it’s secretly decaf” wouldn’t necessarily rank very high.

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      3 months ago

      You don’t expect good coffee in restaurants, and it’s hard to tell between bad coffee and bad decaff

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      3 months ago

      At a cheap diner? You’d have a hard time telling cuz even when you use regular coffee, the caffeine content is pretty low.

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      3 months ago

      Taste-wise? Probably not. But I’d know by 11am because the caffeine withdrawal would start and I’d get headaches.

    • °˖✧ ipha ✧˖°@lemm.ee
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      3 months ago

      Side by side I could pick out bad decaf, but I’d struggle to notice good decaf.

      On its own I’d just assume I was given a bad to average cup of coffee, which is what I would expect anywhere but home.

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      3 months ago

      At least the ones i have tasted decaf espresso does taste more weak but might have been because my decaf beans were noticeably older and the freshness seems to be one of the biggest factors. If i took decaf coffee somewhere based on my knowledge i would likely just assume that it is old/low quality/not brewed strong enough before i would assume its decaf

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      3 months ago

      Depends on the coffee.

      I developed a sensitivity to caffeine, it basically throws me into a weird heart racing thing at any but the smallest doses.

      But I freaking love coffee. So I buy decaf. If you shop around, find a few brands that do water process decaf, you’ll end up with something that’s good. Not just good enough, but good.

      But the chemical process decaf, yeah, I can tell a difference blindfolded. Literally, I won a bet doing it.

      The typical name brands, they usually have a fairly over processed taste to begin with. So it’s harder to detect, and I can’t tell the difference as clearly. It’s there, but you have to already have compared them before you can tell blind.

      Thing is, part of that is how you drink coffee. If you’re drinking it out of habit, or on the go, your brain is going to filter the taste out in favor of other sensory input. You have to be drinking it for the coffee itself, paying attention to the experience.

      Chemical process decaf has this layer of unpleasant metallic tang to me. Water process tastes like the same basic roast and bean, just slightly less intense. Things like floral notes get a little muted.

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      3 months ago

      Anon says it was a restaurant that happens to serve coffee; not a dedicated coffee shop. So, honestly, probably not. Chances are the coffee would be stale, burned, or just plain poorly brewed regardless of what beans were actually used.

      A lot of whining is done about decaf, but it takes a pretty refined palate and a lot of experience consciously tasting the differences to be able to reliably tell the difference by taste alone.

      The biggest giveaway is the near total lack of a caffeine buzz, even after several cups. But the placebo effect will go a long way to mitigate that.

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      Only if you’re sensitive to caffeine.

      My sister would feel the difference because her heart goes nuts if she has regular coffee. I wouldn’t since I’m an addict with high tolerance. Maybe the headache around noon would make me suspicious but probably not.

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      3 months ago

      As someone who works in taste, people tend to overestimate their tasting abilities. Alcohol free beer, meatless snacks, etc. When presented without focusing attention to taste, people generally don’t notice.

      If you give both options and are forward about it they will be 50% correct in discerning the ‘alternative’. Realization comes more clearly in the absence of physiological change (no inebriation, no caffeine effect).

      However if people do find out you’re cheating them you can sell legit product all day, but people will still doubt you. So don’t expect long term business.

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        3 months ago

        Alcohol free beer

        Um, the smell alone is a dead giveaway, since alcohol has a very distinct smell. I don’t drink alcohol, but I assume the taste of alcohol is similarly distinctive.

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          Beer doesn’t usually smell of ethanol, it smells like hops and yeast. Since most AF beers are built to model light ales anyway, I can hardly tell. I’ve also gotten really into mocktails lately and with the right mixes of bitters and syrups most of them are significantly better than real cocktails. With those, that gasoline taste of ethanol is noticeably absent in a good way!

          I know exactly how caffeine affects me though, and would pretty quickly realize I’d been given decaf.

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            Really? I don’t drink, so maybe I’m more sensitive to the smell, but beer of all variety has the same alcohol smell that wine and liquors have. Yeah, there’s hops and yeast in there as well, but there’s also that alcohol smell.

            I actually like that smell oddly enough, but it’s very distinctive. I’m also very used to the smell of yeast (we bake bread fairly often) and malt (I love AF malt beer), but I’m not as familiar with the smell of hops, so I just assume that’s the “beer” smell I’m smelling.

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          3 months ago

          Old style AF beers had a distinct malty musty smell. But with new techniques AF beers can be indistinguisable. Certainly if hop foreward

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            They’re probably more similar, but there’s no way they can mimic that distinctive alcohol smell (same smell in wine and liquor). I’d take a bet any day that I can distinguish any AF from regular beer, provided the regular beer is at least the typical 4-5% ABV.

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              Oh I don’t dispute people can distinguish it by taste. Like I said, if not informed of the possibility that the beer is NA (or the coffee decaf) most people won’t notice. When informed of the possibility less than half of people can distinguish it relyably.

              But most people are shure they would distinguish the taste any day of the week, and the chance is biggest that they can’t.

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                I still find that surprising, do you have stats that you can link?

                The smell of alcohol alone is very distinctive, so I don’t think most would need to even taste it to know it’s AF. It might fool them if it’s served in an area with a lot of alcoholic drinks nearby, but even then a quick sniff should make it plainly obvious to me and, I assume, most people. I don’t have a particularly keen sense of smell (my wife smells a lot of stuff I don’t notice), so I don’t think I’m special here.