• Olhonestjim@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I’m not saying it’s good practice, but you can fire .22 LR without getting ringing in your ears. I’d never do it all day, but I’ve definitely done it a couple times just to get an idea how loud it is. The dude can probably hear fine. I’m not saying it won’t catch up to him though.

    Edit I hear he shoots air pistol? I don’t know if that’s correct, but it’s definitely even quieter.

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      Yep! He competes in (at least) 10m mixed team. They use PCP pistols for that, so you really don’t really need more than a pair of earplugs. 25m and 25m rapid both use .22LR though, and many competitors compete in both events and only bring the one pair of PPE, so that’s where the images of competitors wearing full ears vs. earplugs only in one side come from (and/or some people’s ears are stupidly designed so they can’t wear normal earplugs / earbuds and have to have the uncomfortable and bulky over-the-ear protection. Not that I’m bitter or anything. Stupid ears.).

      Also, his shooting stance is 100% standard, here’s him & his partner Sevval Tarhan in identical stances. It’s really more for comfort than anything else, since rounds go for 1hr 15min. Ergonomic stance means you can keep up the consistent shots for that long a period

      The meme format with him vs. the south korean shooter Kim Yeji looks so different because they are competing in totally different events, even though they’re both shooting PCP target guns.

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      I heard someone say that he was wearing regular earplugs and that these are compressed air guns so not nearly as loud as regular guns. I have no idea on either of those loudnesses

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      Shooting .22lr without earpro isn’t great, but yeah… doing it occasionally shouldn’t be an issue.

      I use 22 on invasive nutria around the property, and when I see one of the giant rats I’ll just grab the rifle and go shoot them. It’s not like firing a .308 or .223 where it’s loud enough to permanently damage your hearing from 1 shot.

      But if I’m going target shooting a 22 I’m gonna put on eyes and ears. Especially for a pistol. For those who haven’t shot, pistols are generally way louder than rifles of the same caliber. Not only is it closer to the shooter, but more of the gas expansion and powder burning occurs outside the barrel.

      Air guns can also be just as loud as a 22 BTW. It’s actually fairly common to have a integrated into an air rifle in the US since the legal definition of a silencer specifically involves being designed for use on a firearm (air rifles aren’t legally firearms).

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              I see. In my mind I don’t really connect target shooting and varmit hunting with a 22 with violence, so I missed the reference.

              It’s like connecting wood carving with stabbings.

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                If you know nothing about guns they all kinda read the same. Unless it’s one of maybe 10 that have been featured in media (mainly videogames personally) enough for me to know then I have no real frame of reference.

                I’m curious now, guns I know somewhat in no real order:

                • AK-47
                • M16
                • Uzi
                • Desert Eagle
                • is the AWP a real gun?
                • magnum?
                • hand gun/pistel?

                I’m going to stop because I’m switching between namimg models and broader categories but I think that makes my point pretty clear lol

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                  Fun facts about those guns.

                  The first 3 are actually illegal in the US unless they were made before1986, and even then they require a special license per firearm that takes a year to get. And those pre-1986 guns start around 40 grand.

                  You can get modern guns that look like an AK, M16, or Uzi, but they have to be manufactured in a way that they can’t fire full-auto without illegal modification. For instance, I can take a full-auto trigger and drop it into my AR-15 and it still won’t fire full-auto because the lower receiver (legally the gun) is missing a hole required for the auto-sear that allows the full-auto to function.

                  Desert Eagle is a sub-brand of a company called Magnum Research and is a family of firearms. Most famous among them is a variant that fires a 50 cal Action Express round, but you can get it in a 357 or a 9mm as well. Saying “Desert Eagle” is like saying “Xbox.” I probably know what you mean, but it technically covers a lot of devices.

                  The Awp is a very specific model of Accuracy International precision rifle. They’re quality precision rifles, but they’re also like 15 grand, and for 99.999% of shooters you could spend $3,000 on a Ruger and a decent optic and shoot just as well. I have a Bergara custom rifle and a top-of-the-line Razor optic that are combined worth about 7 grand (mostly the scope), and I honestly don’t think there’s a human on the planet who could shoot well enough to determine a meaningful difference between it and an Accuracy International.

                  “Magnum” essentially refers to a larger, overloaded cartridge. They’re usually just a little longer so they can hold extra powder. My 44 magnum revolver will shoot 44 special (regular) or 44 Magnum. The projectile is the same, but you’ve got like double the bang with a Magnum.

                  Honestly, for handguns there’s no reason outside of bear defense to use a Magnum other than for the giggle factor from the big boom. My 357 Magnum also fores 38 special which, while technically weaker, can be fired more quickly with greater control in a tighter group at revolver distances, and a 38 special will take down just about anything. It’s the difference between killing a fly with a fly swatter or a sledgehammer - the sledge is more powerful, but I wouldn’t say it’s the better tool.

                  Handgun refers to any firearm designed to be fireable using 1 hand and no shoulder stock. A pistol is a handgun in which the firing chamber is integrated into the barrel, inclusing most single-shot, automatic, and multi-barrel handguns. Revolvers have a rotating cylinder with multiple firing chambers that line up up with the barrel before firing.