Can we know if the not the actual business at least the type of business?
The tip of my finger would break the sound barrier on its way to press the No tip button
Custom tip: –200%
This sort of stuff gets me to leave cash and walk away. This note is legal tender for ALL DEBTS public and private. If they wanted to enforce credit cards only, then they should have charged up front. Bye.
I know you’re being cheeky (and probably do always pay in cash) but businesses can actually choose to not accept the paper. I looked this up years ago wondering how airlines could force the issue of “CCs only.” Apparently being legal tender doesn’t mean companies are forced to accept it- which makes sense I guess. You just have to use legal currency (e.g., USD).
The airline isn’t accepting a debt; it’s up front.
I’m talking about point of sale transactions while in flight. It’s exactly the same as the coffee counter. And if a restaurant posts “credit only” they can also force the issue. There isn’t really any point in arguing with me when you’re obviously going on whatever idea you have in your mind. It’s just not true.
Man, you’re not gonna like visiting The Netherlands, where cash is quite commonly not accepted in favour of exclusively debitcards (AmEx and the likes are often not accepted since they’re far too expensive).
Noooo! I did visit it years ago and it was so convenient to pay for everything in even euros!
Paying with card is convenient. If the amount is below an amount the card holder sets then you don’t even need a pin. It’s about the same time as each party counting money and so on.
I’m gonna start pretending I don’t know what a tip is and ask the person to explain.
In USAland, a tip is an extra pay on top of whatever you paid for, which is supposed to go straight to the worker that served you. They expect tips because their salaries are criminally low and “it makes people work better”
Wait, but why doesn’t the business just pay them better?
They don’t have to, legally. Some asshole managed to convince Congress that all restaurants would go out of business if they had to pay minimum wage back in the 1930s when minimum wage was set up. Because of said cheap rich asshole, there is a normal minimum wage which is $7.25/hr, and a service minimum wage which is $2.13/hr.
In theory the restaurant is supposed to ensure that you make at least minimum wage. In practice they just fire you if you dare to ask for minimum compensation.
Does not apply in California, Massachusetts, or NY, that I am aware of
Wait, but if I tip, wouldn’t it just be the same as if the business charged more and paid their employees properly?
Wait, but if I tip, wouldn’t it just be the same as if the business charged more and paid their employees properly?
Wait, but if I tip, wouldn’t it just be the same as if the business charged more and paid their employees properly?
Wait, but if I tip, wouldn’t it just be the same as if the business charged more and paid their employees properly?
Well yes, but then they’d have to pay their employees out of their money, instead of relying on the kindness of their customers.
But isn’t that what they’re supposed to do?
Ahh, I see the confusion. This is the US where you do anything you can to screw others out of money so maybe you can retire about 30 minutes before you die.
That’s certain to make the person, who has no control over the POS, have a better day at their wage-slave job.
Well, I’d argue that if enough people complain to the person and they in turn complain to their boss, something might change.
That’s how I’ve learned to get my boss to improve stuff around the workplace. Whenever I notice something that can be improved I don’t say “I think we should do x”. I say “clients have been complaining about this, we should do x.” He’s a lot more receptive when I say that.
Why not talk directly to the manager instead of giving a minimum wage employee more stress?
I never said I’d yell at the guy or anything. Just point out that it’s not a cool thing to do and to please let the one responsible know about it. I don’t think that’s putting stress on the person, the same way I don’t get stressed when others complain to me about things.
In a restaurant complaining to the boss = more likely to lose your job.
Depends how you complain. I meant saying something along the lines of “hey, another 10 people complained about the POS, can we do something about it?”
If that gets you fired then I’m sorry about the toxic work culture. Over here it’s not like that.
POS systems are probably put in place by corporate, not the restaurant manager. In other words, the restaurant manager has no say in what the POS system says. Same goes for other businesses like grocery stores and the like.
You would have to have them get serious negative press in order to change that.
You’re probably not a wage slave if you’re getting a 50% kickback on everything your employer sells.
I don’t think there’s much guarantee that any tips given via kiosk are shared in full or in part with the employee in front of you.
When I’m in doubt, I ask, and so far the answer has always been yes, they get the tips.
But do they REALLY know?
I think people know if they’re getting paid or not.
but do they know if their employer is giving them the full amount of the tip?
Where the fuck has $28 come from on an amount of $26.17?
We like to be surprised by taxes at checkout when spending money rather than displaying the full price from the beginning.
It’s really dumb, and it’s almost certainly a psychological trick that increases sales.
Got asked to tip while buying a shirt at a concert. The three percentage options were 5, 10, and 15, so not nearly as crazy as this image, but still, it’s kind of ridiculous. I try to rationalize tipping based on if it’s a service that I can’t perform. I can line up a shirt number with the box it’s in and find a size, however I’m not a barber, a barista, or a chef. The percentage I give is based on setting. Standing, 10% or a buck, whichever is greater. Sitting, 20%. Barbers get 30%+.
idk why any of you act like there’s more than one right answer here. it’s on the bottom right.
I always hated tipping culture, this device’s creator may be the hero we need to end it.
They should have made it to 50%, 70% and 100%.
I just click No Tip and then remind myself “It is not my responsibility to subsidize the business owner paying their employees.”
American tipping culture is bullshit. And to start with 30% is just plain stupid.
But not tipping at all is bullshit. I really need the taxfree money to buy drugs to cope with how fucking annoying and disrespectful half of all my guests are.
Id wish to be paid enough to not need tips, but to afford that my boss would have to raise the prices and other venues would snatch the costumers.
Just tip cash (5-15% is enough in most of europe).
ban tipping. enforce living wages
Christ these comments are horrifying
A few fuckers tried this on me at a restaurant in Greece last year.
The proper reaction is not to click “no tip” then cower in case someone judges you.
The proper reaction is to click “no tip” then get on every fuckin review site you can find and every social media site the restaurant is on, and leave 1-star reviews for spoiling my fucking lunch by begging for money. Put the price I pay on the menu, or fuck off.
I’ll tip a max of 10% if I want to. That’s generous where I am
Fuck that, your whole point of hospitality is to make me feel comfortable, not uncomfortable.
If you don’t do this, you’re the reason it still happens.
Incidentally, was back in Greece this year and only got harassed for a tip once. Anecdotal but hey, felt like I made a difference
So no tip it is
Shit like this results in an automatic “No Tip” from me.
Custom tip > -100%
If the system is shitty enough to allow negative tips then I would also think it might be shitty enough to do something like treat it as unsigned and add a 4,294,967,196% tip.
I’ve started to do that. If I don’t see 10-20% options, I’ve started doing no tip–even if I would have tipped more.
It irks me.
They’d done some data analysis and I guess if you show higher percentages people just click them. So I am bringing it back to reality with my 0%.
Many people habitually click the lowest option, so they made the lowest option outrageously high. Fuck tips, I always go for a flat zero.
