• ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
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    Nobody fucked up. This is how good guys with guns stop bad guys with guns. The bad guy shoots first. It’s unrealistic to think it would happen any other way.

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        I see people are misunderstanding my comment. I’m saying the “good guys with guns” argument is bullshit and this proves it. Trump is surrounded by good guys with guns. They didn’t help. Guns are the problem and anyone suggesting “good guys with guns” will stop gun violence is an idiot.

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          I mean the law can’t stop crimes before they happen either does that mean it doesn’t protect people? If you like freedom you kind of cant just shoot or jail people for no reason.

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            Guns are why we’ve had 34 mass shootings in July alone. Almost 300 this year. 3 in the past 24 hours.

            Of all the problems we have in this country, it’s the one thing we seem to avoid trying to mitigate.

            We need to try, and we’re not: https://youtu.be/BoHFjVR9Xyo [5:15]

            Immediately after a newsworthy gun event, it’s “never the time” to talk about safety.

            We have rights to guns, but not rights to have healthcare for when you get shot by the gun. “We have gun care, and health control” to paraphrase Newsom.

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              Sure but expecting anyone with a gun from an officer to a bystander to shoot someone before that person does something illegal isn’t gonna fly the same way jailing someone for something they haven’t done yet wont. No one would use that arguement to say the law doesn’t protect people. Hell the shooter was killed while he was stationed at his rifle, the ‘good guys with guns’ literally saved lives.

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      That really sounds like good guys with guns do not and cannot actually stop bad guys with guns

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        That was my point. I didn’t word it correctly. The fuck up is thinking someone can be protected from being shot by surrounding them with “good guys with guns”. It’s a flawed premise. The secret service didn’t “fuck up”, they performed as expected.