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lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works to Political Memes@lemmy.world · 1 year ago

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lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works to Political Memes@lemmy.world · 1 year ago
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  • nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    You don’t understand how surviving assassination attempts energizes your voter base? I feel like there’s a lot of history here you could pull from.

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      Can you name a single elected European leader that people tried to assassinate?

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        Olof Palme, tried and succeeded… This has JFK-level conspiracy theories flourishing in Sweden

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        Hitler.

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          Homie really forgot about Hitler . . .

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            Homie knows his history, actually.

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              How many burgers after yours?

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              Homie doesn’t get that the distinction is meaningless, especially when most European countries don’t elect their heads of government to begin with, and America’s elections are pretty much built to favor the right, because they’re never popular enough to win the popular vote

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                My point here is that the USA is basically a warlord state dressed up in “first-world” clothes. You all seem to take assassinations in stride while being blissfully unaware of how anomalous this is compared to other countries.

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          It feels like the only parallel left is that soon we’re going to find out Trump University was created because no other school would let him into their art program

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          He was not elected head of state.

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            I must have missed the ‘elected’ first time I read it, lol

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        Jo Cox? Unless by “leader”, you specifically mean “head of state”.

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        Forget about Mussolini too or . . . ?

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          He was elected but then abolished elections, so I’m not sure that really counts — the only way to “vote him out” was to kill him. You’re technically right, though.

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            And of course miss Maggy Thatcher, longest serving in her position too.

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              Geez, why do the worst people survive assassination

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              Totally forgot about that one, great counterexample!

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        Pim Fortuyn ( not an elected leader at that point, but his party won the election in a landslide afterward) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pim_Fortuyn

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      If it’s a “voter base”, wouldn’t they already have voted for him?

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        Not all the voter base show up to every election, and in US politics traditionally the more people who vote the better Democrats do. Now they have to also overcome a more energized Trump base which means less people on the right suffering from election fatigue from our years long election cycles. A nice big boos of martyrdom with a few months left can go a long way.

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